clerics in pvp

Samalia - Sanctuary wrote: »

dont worry, it can. with metal mastery as high as it can be, tempest lv 3 and elemental debuff lv 10 it does around 2700 on ALL light armor users. that includes you

I hope I proved my points now with the test we made. I don't talk about LA without reason.

so my tempest did a bit less damage on you than i expected. it still hit you for 2200, and i was unbuffed. you were also unbuffed though so i wont make a big deal about that, but my buff would increase my damage more than your buff would increase your def because your magic def is already decent so the diminishing return would be in play. so probably add around 100 damage? you werent a 1 hit ill give you that. your hp was higher than most LA users, i expected since you went light armor that you would have stoned your armor with def shards because you obviously wanted more def. but that doesnt really matter because my weild thunder/cyclone combo is better dps and thats what i would use on you in a real situation.

the fact still remains that your razor feathers hit me for 1600. and since my def is low the buff would have made a lot more of a difference in damage decrease than your buff would have for damage increase. so i probably would have taken around 1400 had we both been buffed. and i can plume shell your damage. plume shell that and bam im taking like 350 damage, and you cant plume shell my weild thunder.

my weild thunder + cyclone combo = around 3k damage
your feather + plume shot combo = around 2500 damage, and yours can be reduced by 80% from my plume shell, which does not apply to my damage.

you have 1 way to beat me. you need to first survive for 20 seconds, easier said than done because i dont even need to sleep you or debuff you to start my assault. i can just spark and weild thunder - cyclone. 4 out of 5 times you wont last through the first 20 seconds

the only way to survive for those 20 seconds would be to sleep me and start stack healing as soon as your duel timer starts. and while youre healing you cant damage me. so i will be at 100% hp when my plume shell goes down, at which point you have 1 chance to critical me with a razor feathers. and since i will not have used my sleep yet, you will be slept immediately after your non crit razor feathers giving me a chance to rinse your damage and repeat my assault. your crit rate is about 7% or so, which equates to about 1/13 chance of critting me. 1 thirteenth of your 20% survival rate will equal a victory. that is a staggering 1 in 65 chance of victory

this might seem like a sad reality for light armor cleric vs full int attack cleric, but it is a reality none the less.

Some points to consider:

Light armour clerics CAN still wear arcane armour, people. I know some who carry around two sets, or mix and match. Yes, this will not help if you get ganked in PvP, but if you're going into the battle as the attacker then you can be prepared. Sure, this might be expensive to maintain two sets of armour, but who said that getting the best out of your gear was cheap?

It is also possible to get plenty of hp without adding vit. Light armour refined gives a higher hp bonus than arcane. Light armour users also have enough strength to wear decently nice +hp helmets rather than the mana ones (the one I am wearing right now gives me over 200 hp right there). Sure, they will not have as much as full vit. No one is saying that. But with the extra physical defense and working hard to get as much hp as possible it is a very survivable build.

Also, the point of going LA in PvP is probably not "Oooh I want to beat all the clerics and mages". The point is to survive and win against archers, bms, and barbs who see magic users as easy targets. You will always have weaknesses against certain classes. Pick your poison.

Really when it comes down to it the best builds for PvP are light armour and vit builds (I'm sure if someone was a great player they could manage with full int, but it's more difficult than the other two). Either one is fine as long as you know what gear you need and how to play your build.

Also, as a side note, it doesn't make any sense to me when people say that full vit clerics are better healers than LA clerics. Healing is based on the mag stat. Both put in 6 mag every 2 levels. They are equal. Clerics have many options for build diversity.