Achievement Quest

Maddrox - Harshlands · May 2009

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

sounds like more baseless assumptions . zoe just face it, the whole fact of the matter, your entire "guide to fail" is just plain stupid.

YOU DONT EVEN PVP FOR GODS SAKE. You said so yourself.

oh wow you TW once a week woopdeedooda youre such a pvp god. is your head so far up your **** you actually think that? is your e-penor so huge it blocks vision from reality? is your ego that huge that it just renders you incapable of logical thought and or comprehension to the point of stupidity?

you never, ever refute arguements, you just make bull**** up. you never have proof. you never have fact. you make things up, tell your self this is fact, and then spread the bull.

i dare you to prove these quotes wrong, using solid evidence, not IM ZOE AND I SAY THIS IS POSSIBLE SO IT IS.

i literally hate people like you, cant stand them, loathe them, despise, abhor, any word you can think of synonymous with the word hatred. people who just have in their head, theyre always right. that their morals are what society is, no society and economy is not ran by greed because zoe says so. hypocrites, liars, people who make things up and claim to be better than others.

you are arrogant, pretentious scum, with no deservance to grace these forums with such blatent stupidity. your prescene, no just your name alone, brings a sour flavor to my mouth, like vomit which i spit at the floor. so seriously, if you have nothing productive to say, stay the hell off of here, dont even bother signing in, you dont even deserve to play PW, miss "IM GOD, LISTEN AND OBEY." **** off.

i dont know whos worse... you or your clone on ragnarok online forums, jayed who behaves in the exact same manner, who ran off our home server because everyone hated her living guts

b:victory

Crucifix - Harshlands · May 2009

I don't think a few of us are understanding the correct numbers here.

Rank 8 = 200,000 rep.

"Zoe" you have 12,500 rep? Congratulations.

You could easily have 30,000 rep? Again, congratulations, you're only 1/7.5 the way to rank 8.

It would take YEARS (Yes I said years, and we're not talking 1-2 hours a day, we're talking no-life for a good couple 360 day years) to get rank 8 at the current pace that we have it.

It is time for GMs to come out with something that helps with our reputation, because 200k is completely and utterly unattainable at this point, Impossible? No, of course not, but I guarantee no one here has 3-4 years to dedicate to it.

MrConce - Harshlands · May 2009

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

People complain about rep but so far I've noticed that I have more rep than most of the players. Are you all just too lazy to work for it?

People freak when I tell them I have over 12,500 rep. Most players past my level don't even have 8k yet.

rofl...all ima say...if u ever get jun8/rank 8....ill officially make u "the biggest freak with no lyfe" 200k rep for jun8? GG

Ahaa - Lost City · May 2009

TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »

Its funny how you even can get warsoul, lvl 100 gold/orange items from past, CV, lvl 99 skills etc but not rank 8. It really makes so sense at all since rank 8 is only grade 12 gear/weapon. While many of the other ones i mentioned are grade 13-16 and actually more "endgame" than 8jun.

I guess they thought people getting 8jun in 4-5 months of farming stamps/ spamming candy was to easy. Or they didn't make enough money from it. Dont even know how hard those success mode-quests will be if they ever get here, seems u have to aoe entire fb99 in 20 min than you can replace the reward for stamps and other stuff <.<

And people that think 12.5k rep is like = on my way of getting 8jun, makes me lol

not the whole fb.. just half of the mobs and the last boss b:chuckle

Zoe - Heavens Tear · May 2009

As I said, rank 8 should be one of those things almost no player ever even gets. You want it to be easy. The players in this game fail so hard is even beyond my own belief, and I've played one hell of a fail game but you guys are even worse than they can dream of.

Gorgonia - Heavens Tear · May 2009

b:cute

I'm too cute to think and post here... sorry.

jemima · May 2009

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

As I said, rank 8 should be one of those things almost no player ever even gets. You want it to be easy. The players in this game fail so hard is even beyond my own belief, and I've played one hell of a fail game but you guys are even worse than they can dream of.

Pot calling the kettle black...

You could have 30k+ rep in your 8 months of playing. Let's say you have 35k rep. It still takes nearly 4 years at that rate to get 200k. Do you think that 4 years is a reasonable timeframe for the gain a hardcore player who neglects their levelling and moneymaking for that entire time gets?

All it takes is for the game to die in under 4 years, or the level cap to get raised (level 121 weps are the same grade as 8jun), or someone to get warsoul instead, etc.

I mean, I know I'd much rather have money, XP, and all 'round nice gear including a +12 TT/mold weapon, than nothing except 8jun.

They don't want it to be easy, they want it to be achievable in a year or two, instead of four or five.

Of course, this applies for farming rep. If you're just going to buy all the wedding candies then it takes rather less time to get all that rep.

Murugan - Lost City · May 2009

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The POINT I was making is that most players are just too darn lazy to actually get the rep. They want stamps and this system or they say its not possible to get good rep, which is clearly IS possible. I can get well over 100 rep a day if I feel like it.

Teach me! I has only 2k rep b:surrender

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Zoe's guide on how to FAIL at pvp.

1: Attack when the other player is not ready (are you that much of a coward?)
2: Use an hp charm (too pathetically weak are we?)
3: Use guardian angels.(you actually die? fail)
4: Run (too weak to take a hit? You fail)
5: Make yourself hard to click on (again, your character sucks, fail.)
6: Do anything to stop the other guy from hitting back. (what will you do when someone uses anti-stun pots?)
7: Put flesh ream on your veno pet (bug abuse fail, learn to play your class.)

Any advantage you have in pvp can be removed by pots/genies and a better player. If you do not know how to fight and win without your main advantage, you fail, go die please. This game only needs real pvpers.

While you're at it, teach me how to pk. Just use normal attacks without skills? No pots too right? I don't want to appear pathetically weak b:surrender

Devoted - Lost City · May 2009

Ahaa - Lost City wrote: »

not the whole fb.. just half of the mobs and the last boss b:chuckle

That's for minimum rep. If you have to pay 600k per run I'd want the max amount of rep I can get.

ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary · May 2009

Devoted - Lost City wrote: »

K pro, go get 8jun. You can say you told me so 3++ years from now. Granted you can find me.

rank 8 gear was never intended to be something easy to get
that's the point of it
the day someone is walking around with it will be a great achievement, everyone will know that person

that's the whole point, stop complaining cause it takes to long to get it or there is no efficient way to do it

Devoted - Lost City · May 2009

With achievement quest it still won't be easy to get. Rank 8 isn't warsoul. It's supposed to be an actually achievable endgame weapon. Currently no one has or ever will get 8jun with the current rep system. For the people saying achievement quest is the easy way out let me list some facts.

Rank 8 is 200000 rep. The average 9x has around 6-8k rep (being generous.) That leaves ~192000 rep till rank 8.

To get 8jun with achievement quest:

Run fb99 over and over. Kill almost every mob and selected bosses. If you are farming for one person the person gets 720 rep. Sounds good right?

That equals ~267 full fb99 runs. No wine. That's actually not even bad, doable in 1~2 months. The hard part is getting 4+ people willing to let you keep all the rep and stop leveling to farm your 8jun. That's almost the hardest part. Now lets throw in the 600000 coin cost per run.

160 200 000 COINS.

Yep, achievement quest is way too easy. Convince 5 people to spend the next 2 months of pwi in fb99 for you and convince daikoku to lend you 16 lands worth of salary. Next **** post please step forward.

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The POINT I was making is that most players are just too darn lazy to actually get the rep. They want stamps and this system or they say its not possible to get good rep, which is clearly IS possible. I can get well over 100 rep a day if I feel like it.

Give it a rest already,playing less than the 12 hours a day you put in does not make people lazy.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · May 2009

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

sounds like more baseless assumptions . zoe just face it, the whole fact of the matter, your entire "guide to fail" is just plain stupid.

YOU DONT EVEN PVP FOR GODS SAKE. You said so yourself.

oh wow you TW once a week woopdeedooda youre such a pvp god. is your head so far up your **** you actually think that? is your e-penor so huge it blocks vision from reality? is your ego that huge that it just renders you incapable of logical thought and or comprehension to the point of stupidity?

you never, ever refute arguements, you just make bull**** up. you never have proof. you never have fact. you make things up, tell your self this is fact, and then spread the bull.

i dare you to prove these quotes wrong, using solid evidence, not IM ZOE AND I SAY THIS IS POSSIBLE SO IT IS.

i literally hate people like you, cant stand them, loathe them, despise, abhor, any word you can think of synonymous with the word hatred. people who just have in their head, theyre always right. that their morals are what society is, no society and economy is not ran by greed because zoe says so. hypocrites, liars, people who make things up and claim to be better than others.

you are arrogant, pretentious scum, with no deservance to grace these forums with such blatent stupidity. your prescene, no just your name alone, brings a sour flavor to my mouth, like vomit which i spit at the floor. so seriously, if you have nothing productive to say, stay the hell off of here, dont even bother signing in, you dont even deserve to play PW, miss "IM GOD, LISTEN AND OBEY." **** off.

i dont know whos worse... you or your clone on ragnarok online forums, jayed who behaves in the exact same manner, who ran off our home server because everyone hated her living guts

go back to page three and read my lovely colorful message for you zoe, self righteous pig

Zoe - Heavens Tear · May 2009

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Give it a rest already,playing less than the 12 hours a day you put in does not make people lazy.

Stop failing so much. I'm about to start on a bachelors degree after I get my associates in a couple of months. The amount of work I'll have to do for that is pretty nuts and I'll still outrep nearly everyone when I'm even not playing this as much.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · May 2009

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Stop failing so much. I'm about to start on a bachelors degree after I get my associates in a couple of months. The amount of work I'll have to do for that is pretty nuts and I'll still outrep nearly everyone when I'm even not playing this as much.

go to hell stupid girl.

Notbad - Heavens Tear · May 2009

anger mangement problems we have don't we...-_-

Notbad - Heavens Tear · May 2009

b:sad~rep~ lies!

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · May 2009

anger cant even begin to describe what feelings i have for this girl are.

Zoe - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

anger cant even begin to describe what feelings i have for this girl are.

Ah the whining of one of this games biggest failures. Its fun to read. b:laugh

Forgot to mention I'll also have a CCNA soon and still have time to get lots of rep even with the job I'll get on top of college. I do not see what the problem is with you guys. Learn to play and actually earn what you get.

That huge number that was posted? Big deal! I've spent more coins than that already in this game!

Notbad - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

anger cant even begin to describe what feelings i have for this girl are.

really now...how does that make you feel?

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ah the whining of one of this games biggest failures. Its fun to read. b:laugh

And Zoe how do why do you like the maddness of someones?

Devoted - Lost City · May 2009

I believe the title of the thread is achievement quest, no one cares that you think people are too lazy to farm 8jun. If you don't have anything to contribute to the topic, leave.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · May 2009

Say she whos made fun of constantly and told shes stupid constantly, you must need to be admitted into a mental hospital if you havent grasped reality enough to realize this community hates you. Theres no whining about it, its calling you out on your bull****, you stupid *****. Go back to the hell hole you came from, we dont want you here.

back on topic. 82 and barely 5k i dont like to slave emy life away on menial quests, and at this current rate, rank 8 wont happen let alone 5. there needs to be an alternative rep increasing implementation

Notbad - Heavens Tear · May 2009

8ju wtf is that? And that does have something related to do with this topic

Zoe - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Notbad - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And Zoe how do why do you like the maddness of someones?

Players like them are the reason other mmos I've played have died. If they get mad enough to quit the game I buy the game some time and it can live longer.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · May 2009

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Players like them are the reason other mmos I've played have died. If they get mad enough to quit the game I buy the game some time and it can live longer.

ha. its elitist, pretentious scum like you that kills games. You have to be the worst player Ive ever seen. The only thing you contribute to threads is sheer stupidity. Its people like me who purge games of imbeciles like you.

and 8jun = stupid malaysian name for military rank 8

Zoe - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

ha. its elitist, pretentious scum like you that kills games. You have to be the worst player Ive ever seen. The only thing you contribute to threads is sheer stupidity. Its people like me who purge games of imbeciles like you.

and 8jun = stupid malaysian name for military rank 8

Ah you wish. So says the coward that needs to attack from behind with a broken skill because you suck so bad at pvp. You are nothing but a coward in game, and in life. You may die now.

Devoted - Lost City · May 2009

If I'm not going to get a response or even an acknowledgment GM's you might as well close the thread.

MntMan - Lost City · May 2009

If you haven't figured it out yet Zoe is a plain liar. That's all. She just wants attention and likes to brag-xaggerate (exaggerate bragging. New word. Who thought of it? Me! that's right me!! Let's see you invent something as cool as that)

I do a lot of fb runs every day and probably play 3-4 hours a day. I think that's reasonable average. Some play a lot more and some a lot less. On a good day I get 50 rep, but I didn't start really getting it until I hit level 35 or so and could actively participate in a lot of fb19 and 29s.

Right now at lvl 58 I do fb runs up to fb51. So let's say I do 1 fb51(1 hr 15 mins 18 rep) run, 1 fb 39 (1 hr 15 rep) run and 2 fb 19 (10 minutes each 2 rep each) runs in a day. That equals 37 rep across 2 1/2 hours. Now lets say I do a couple quests as well over the next hour + for 6-10 rep each, that would give me generously 67 rep. The times I allotted for fb runs are more then fair. Often it takes much more time because 1) you have to find an fb which takes time even if you know all the right channels b) it takes time for all members of an fb party to converge and III) it takes time to do a run especially if its a new squad that hasn't worked together often.

OK so let's say 67 rep a day starting after level 35. Even if I was doing that much rep at day/level 1 and let's add some extra rep a day in for darkness stamps or dogtags falling (maybe if you're lucky 2 day. We'll say 6 rep each to average things out). Hell let's even just call it 100 rep a day which you say you do easily. If you have 35000 rep that means it took you almost a year (that's if you were getting that much rep day one, level one) Open Beta started Sep 2nd 2008, so I suppose it would be possible at that rate, but that means you played every day and never took a day off. And of course every day you got that amount and never strayed to include Day 1 of leveling. Good job. At that same rate it will only take you 2000 days to get rank 8. In 5.5 years what level do you think you'll be if you're level 90 now?

They need to make Rank items achievable. I'm not saying everyone who hits level 50 should have 2500 rep by then, but how about 5 out of 100? By level 60 30 out of 100 should have it and by level 70 maybe 75 out of a 100. Right now it's not even possible to have 1 in 1000 get rank at the required level. If it's PWIs goal to have this then change the level. I don't care if they make rank 3 achievable at 2500 rep (as it is), but not until level 65 then have level 65 gear for rank 3. Then rank 4 at 5000 rep (as it is) but not until level 80 then offer level 80 gear at rank 4. At least we have a workable goal

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · May 2009

Youre all talk, you have no proof youre not just an idiotic failbait like you claim everyone else to be.

oh yes because if I kill someone in game I should kill someone IRL because I should learn to do REAL PK, because thats the same as murder. Im saying youre an idiot who doesnt know how to PVP. I dont use flesh ream to win >_>; I practically live in white name... fighting 90+ people win or lose, and you do what.. TW? DT? Wow youre so experienced, you sure know how to pvp.... NOT. You zoe, are a true coward, a fool, and a jackass because you just cannot admit to defeat.

Just bow down to your superior and itll all go away. Admit you lose. Throw away that selfish pride that makes you an elitist noob with practically no right to be LOL. Theres nothing special or great about you, you dont stand out in the crowd.

Youre another useless, worthless. disgusting human being.

If you died. No one will miss you.

You are a waste of a life, a waste of a soul.

Incarnation of stupidity, go commit a violent suicide, no ones going to care whether or not you do.

And trust me, when its all done and over with, theres a special spot in hell for you to writhe and rot in, while we laugh as you rotate upon spokes of an eternal wheel of torment.

Daerys - Sanctuary · May 2009

Alright the sheer number times I've had to read it have finally lead me to comment....

Zoe's guide on how to FAIL at pvp.

1: Attack when the other player is not ready (are you that much of a coward?)
2: Use an hp charm (too pathetically weak are we?)
3: Use guardian angels. (If you die you fail)
4: Run (Talk about being a coward)
5: Make yourself hard to click on (Terrified of getting hit? Fail)
6: Do anything to stop the other guy from hitting back. (what will you do when someone uses anti-stun pots?)
7: Put flesh ream on your veno pet (bug abuse fail, learn to play your class.)

Let's see here...

1: Ambush tactics are a perfectly legit form of combat. They've been used since organisms first evolved enough to eat each other.

2: If you run out of HP, you lose. The object is to win. Pretty self-explanatory.

3: Have you ever bothered to look at the PK drop penalty chart? I didn't think so.

4: Once again, the object is to win. If running away a little bit to give yourself time to recover helps you win, perfectly legit.

5: One more time. The object is to win. If they can't click on you, they can't hit you. Seems like a winning tactic to me. Also pretty ridiculous for a Veno to make this comment, since we have a "click blocker" built into our class.

6: Have you guessed what I'm going to say here? The object is to win. If your opponent can hit you, you might lose. Don't let him hit you if you have the means available to do so.

7: I'm on the fence on this one. I completely agree that it's bugged and should be fixed. However, it's a tool available to us. No reason not to use it. We're wanting to win, remember?

Sounds to me like you want your opponent to just stand there and do nothing while you nuke him down. For some reason I just don't see that happening too often.

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