Achievement Quest

13»

Comments

  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    If I'm not going to get a response or even an acknowledgment GM's you might as well close the thread.

    Oh no it's too late!
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I fail, its impossible to comprehend how much I fail.

    I have played other versions of PW. Don't start your **** you have no idea who you are dealing with...

    I had rank 5 plenty early and used the pants at level 90 with no issues. You talk and talk, and fail in pvp as you ruin this game, hiding behind your pathetic character, forever being too much of a coward to do anything other than fail. I'm sorry you suck so bad. I'd help you if I could but I'm afraid you are a lost cause.

    @op, if you are too lame to actually work for the rep, rather than have it given to you, you need to go play another game.

    The players in this game are greedy, lazy cowards and this is most certainly the worst playerbase I have ever seen in my 13+ major mmos I have played.

    Its not about if you win, its HOW you win. Funny how you ignore what I have in the ()'s
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have played other versions of PW. Don't start your **** you have no idea who you are dealing with...

    I had rank 5 plenty early and used the pants at level 90 with no issues. You talk and talk, and fail in pvp as you ruin this game, hiding behind your pathetic character, forever being too much of a coward to do anything other than fail. I'm sorry you suck so bad. I'd help you if I could but I'm afraid you are a lost cause.

    @op, if you are too lame to actually work for the rep, rather than have it given to you, you need to go play another game.

    The players in this game are greedy, lazy cowards and this is most certainly the worst playerbase I have ever seen in my 13+ major mmos I have played.

    Its not about if you win, its HOW you win. Funny how you ignore what I have in the ()'s
    This is PWI not "other versions of PW." Here you are a nameless, worthless pile of dog **** someone steps on and asks, "ewm whats this?"
    Let's see here...

    1: Ambush tactics are a perfectly legit form of combat. They've been used since organisms first evolved enough to eat each other.

    2: If you run out of HP, you lose. The object is to win. Pretty self-explanatory.

    3: Have you ever bothered to look at the PK drop penalty chart? I didn't think so.

    4: Once again, the object is to win. If running away a little bit to give yourself time to recover helps you win, perfectly legit.

    5: One more time. The object is to win. If they can't click on you, they can't hit you. Seems like a winning tactic to me. Also pretty ridiculous for a Veno to make this comment, since we have a "click blocker" built into our class.

    6: Have you guessed what I'm going to say here? The object is to win. If your opponent can hit you, you might lose. Don't let him hit you if you have the means available to do so.

    7: I'm on the fence on this one. I completely agree that it's bugged and should be fixed. However, it's a tool available to us. No reason not to use it. We're wanting to win, remember?


    Sounds to me like you want your opponent to just stand there and do nothing while you nuke him down. For some reason I just don't see that happening too often.

    YES anoother person refutes your idiotic signature again, but as always Zoe has nothing to say but made up **** and cant back up her own claims ):. Poor Zoe.

    One word describes you. Pathetic.

    Its sad you have to make up more stuff to try and hurt their feelings in a sad attempt to insult them :).

    You have yet to prove anything to me that makes you worth calling noteworthy. I have a few, and Ive played a quater of the time you have.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    @op, if you are too lame to actually work for the rep, rather than have it given to you, you need to go play another game.

    Yeah I apologize that I am too lame to play this game for 5 more years only running fb's and one-many army's. I also apologize for asking the GM's when the quest will be implemented as it is a part of the game. My bad, continue on your quest to rank 8 my friend. When you get it I'll be sure to re-download the game and play it so you have someone to use it on.
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    Yeah I apologize that I am too lame to play this game for 5 more years only running fb's and one-many army's. I also apologize for asking the GM's when the quest will be implemented as it is a part of the game. My bad, continue on your quest to rank 8 my friend. When you get it I'll be sure to re-download the game and play it so you have someone to use it on.
    Try to PK him/Her Zoe, Im sure he/she would rip you apart :)
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Lets look at my sig then

    1: If you were any good at pvp you would be able to face anyone head on and win.
    2: If you were good at pvp you would not need heals, you'd just kill that fast.
    3: If you were any good at pvp you would rarely, if ever, die.
    4: If you were any good at pvp you would never need to run you'd simply kill them.
    5: If you were any good at pvp you'd just take the hits and kill them anyway.
    6: What are you going to do when they are immune to things like stun and sleep? Cry?
    7: If you were any good at pvp you would not need a broken skill to win.

    To try to stay on topic here, I think the rank system should stay just as it is. This way its truely earned.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Lets look at my sig then

    1: If you were any good at pvp you would be able to face anyone head on and win.
    2: If you were good at pvp you would not need heals, you'd just kill that fast.
    3: If you were any good at pvp you would rarely, if ever, die.
    4: If you were any good at pvp you would never need to run you'd simply kill them.
    5: If you were any good at pvp you'd just take the hits and kill them anyway.
    6: What are you going to do when they are immune to things like stun and sleep? Cry?
    7: If you were any good at pvp you would not need a broken skill to win.

    To try to stay on topic here, I think the rank system should stay just as it is. This way its truely earned.

    So 6 players spending 10 hours a day for 2 months in fb99 AND paying 160mil for one person's rank 8 isn't truly earned?


    I think it's because you can't find 5 people who would ever help you.
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Lets look at my sig then

    1: If you were any good at pvp you would be able to face anyone head on and win.
    2: If you were good at pvp you would not need heals, you'd just kill that fast.
    3: If you were any good at pvp you would rarely, if ever, die.
    4: If you were any good at pvp you would never need to run you'd simply kill them.
    5: If you were any good at pvp you'd just take the hits and kill them anyway.
    6: What are you going to do when they are immune to things like stun and sleep? Cry?
    7: If you were any good at pvp you would not need a broken skill to win.

    To try to stay on topic here, I think the rank system should stay just as it is. This way its truely earned.

    Generalizations like that in a game where every class has weaknesses and advantages against every other class just shows how incredibly naive you really are.
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Daerys - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Alright the sheer number times I've had to read it have finally lead me to comment....



    Let's see here...

    1: Ambush tactics are a perfectly legit form of combat. They've been used since organisms first evolved enough to eat each other.

    2: If you run out of HP, you lose. The object is to win. Pretty self-explanatory.

    3: Have you ever bothered to look at the PK drop penalty chart? I didn't think so.

    4: Once again, the object is to win. If running away a little bit to give yourself time to recover helps you win, perfectly legit.

    5: One more time. The object is to win. If they can't click on you, they can't hit you. Seems like a winning tactic to me. Also pretty ridiculous for a Veno to make this comment, since we have a "click blocker" built into our class.

    6: Have you guessed what I'm going to say here? The object is to win. If your opponent can hit you, you might lose. Don't let him hit you if you have the means available to do so.

    7: I'm on the fence on this one. I completely agree that it's bugged and should be fixed. However, it's a tool available to us. No reason not to use it. We're wanting to win, remember?


    Sounds to me like you want your opponent to just stand there and do nothing while you nuke him down. For some reason I just don't see that happening too often.
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have played other versions of PW. Don't start your **** you have no idea who you are dealing with...

    I had rank 5 plenty early and used the pants at level 90 with no issues. You talk and talk, and fail in pvp as you ruin this game, hiding behind your pathetic character, forever being too much of a coward to do anything other than fail. I'm sorry you suck so bad. I'd help you if I could but I'm afraid you are a lost cause.

    @op, if you are too lame to actually work for the rep, rather than have it given to you, you need to go play another game.

    The players in this game are greedy, lazy cowards and this is most certainly the worst playerbase I have ever seen in my 13+ major mmos I have played.

    Its not about if you win, its HOW you win. Funny how you ignore what I have in the ()'s

    Because what you put in parentheses is just plain stupid logic, its funny how you fail to comprehend that it is literally impossible to win the way you think people should.

    OH, you spelled truly wrong, inept piece of ****
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Thats just the thing, its very possible to win. You just fail at pvp.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    2009-04-2713-47-07.jpg

    Thats why this tard BM needed an entire faction of sages and demons to kill me when his party of 6 could not

    do you seriously need to make things up to feel better in imagination land?
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thats just the thing, its very possible to win. You just fail at pvp.


    My S2-3 2600+ rated Hunter says otherwise. Have fun pwning noobs, it has become blatantly obvious that they are the only people you try to PK. Anyone with more than 2 braincells to rub together would eat you alive if you genuinely use those tactics.

    @OP
    My apologies for further derailing your thread. Zoe has that effect on most people it seems.
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mine too. But shes just an idiot, and deserves it.
  • MntMan - Lost City
    MntMan - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    You forgot #8 on your Fail PvP list zoe. Let me fill it in for you:

    #8 Be Zoe

    You can't even speak about PvP being on a non-PvP server. You can talk about DUELING all you want though. You only wish you were on a PvP server, but don't want to get killed by standard PvP means. Hence your stupid list.

    Now I don't mean this as an insult to all people on PvE servers. It's your choice how you want to play the game and how much BS you want to put up with. (Trust me on Harsh and LC there is so much QQ from PvP). However the rest of the people on PvE servers don't go around professing how great they are and how and what to do. That's why you're an utter failure. You're the kind of person that sees people doing stuff you only wish you could do, but are too lame to attempt and try and emulate them by posting utter **** to make it seem like you have a valid point. I run into this all the time climbing. Everyone comes around talking about this route and that route and how they lead a 5.12, Then I see them try and top rope a friggen 5.8 and flop all over the place. Bottom line. If you don't put up then shut up. Otherwise come on over to a PvP server. We'll break in you real nice.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I don't know why anyone bothers to argue with Zoe. Seriously, it's Zoe. Trying to argue with her is like trying to teach a potato chip Calculus. Only reason I'm about to enter is because I feel like amusing myself while I eat.
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Lets look at my sig then

    1: If you were any good at pvp you would be able to face anyone head on and win.
    2: If you were good at pvp you would not need heals, you'd just kill that fast.
    3: If you were any good at pvp you would rarely, if ever, die.
    4: If you were any good at pvp you would never need to run you'd simply kill them.
    5: If you were any good at pvp you'd just take the hits and kill them anyway.
    6: What are you going to do when they are immune to things like stun and sleep? Cry?
    7: If you were any good at pvp you would not need a broken skill to win.

    To try to stay on topic here, I think the rank system should stay just as it is. This way its truely earned.

    1: Full Robe wiz vs a BM that has Magical marrow active and serk axes. Since you're clearly good enough to account for all possibilities, explain in detail how the wiz would win if s/he adhered to all your rules (no healing, kiting, heiro, etc) and made sue the BM was aware of them before engaging in combat.

    2: BM gets caught by a hell archer who just used a triple spark lightning and barely survives. If Archer hits you with pretty much any other skill, you die. You adhere to all the other rules you supply and the archer has range advantage. How will you kill it fast enough to not need to heal?

    3: You get deep red, everyone knows you're uber, and a group of six or so people gang you. All six are good at their classes and none of your gear is bound. Explain not only how you'd win the fight and avoid getting killed as/// say... a robe Cleric (remember, no heals since you're supposed to kill that fast b:laugh ). Also explain in detail why, if you DO die, it would have been a bad idea to carry around a GA for the extra security and so that "fail PvPers" like the ones in this example couldn't obtain your hard-earned gear.

    4: Archer fighting a high-dex BM that has a large amount of p.def and metal resistances. All your regular attacks do half damage now and your metal attacks are trivial at best. Explain in detail how said archer would kill the BM while adhering to your rules and staying at a distance where their attacks can be shrugged off.

    5: Robe wiz versus BM with magic marrow active. Explain how you'd take te attacks and kill the BM while still adhering to your PvP rules.

    6: Obviously, you laugh and move on to the next disabling skill (or kill them if you were using the stun/sleep to buy time or as a distraction) while your opponent's resistances are on cooldown and they're vulnerable to stuns/sleeps/seals/etc. Of course, anyone following your rules would be screwed since they'd have to tank the opponent while not healing, kiting, using a charm, etc.... but not many people are stupid-- I mean "pro" enough to disable themselves for the sake of giving their opponents an easier time killing them.

    7: This is true, and yet it's also false. If a veno's good enough to kill without ream, then the fact that said veno DOES have Ream won't change the outcome of the battle. It'll just bring the battle to an end sooner. Therefore, a good veno can add ream to their pet and use it knowing they can win without it, and for a bad veno, there are multiple ways to kill them even if they use ream. Thus, this point is null.

    Also, thanks for the thread derail as it give me enough time to amuse myself while eating. Love how much free entertainment these forums can provide. b:victory
  • Murugan - Lost City
    Murugan - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I've noticed that Zoe put this "fail pvp guide" recently in her sig. Maybe she saw my infinity beam thread and thought it was real? :P
  • Notbad - Heavens Tear
    Notbad - Heavens Tear Posts: 374 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    ok what did zoe do to make you mad Tearvalerin? Btw ganging up on zoe is very weak of you guys -__-....don't you have something better to do?
    b:shedtearb:infuriatedb:irritated
    b:sleep
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Baby theres no other super star you know that i'll be..Listening to lady gaga b:laugh
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Because she has the gall to insult the entire game and claim shes a goddess among insects. Therefore, with such a digusting, elitist attitude, she deserves to have her airhead severed off and delivered on a silver platter. No ones ganging on her, its a group of disgruntled individuals frustrated with how arrogant and stupid someone can behave.
  • ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary
    ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Notbad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ok what did zoe do to make you mad Tearvalerin? Btw ganging up on zoe is very weak of you guys -__-....don't you have something better to do?

    100% agree

    so what if you don't agree with her tactics
    the fact that she gets under your skin so much honestly only shows your weaknesses

    quit the complaining people and play the game
    b:thanks
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    so what if you don't agree with her tactics
    the fact that she gets under your skin so much honestly only shows your weaknesses
    so how is ashowing emotion a weakness? shes not under my skin at all, i just hate her and all her being. i can complain all i want, and i wont stop until she disappears or admits defeat like a good little girl.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I really think she only gets under the skin of a few people.

    The rest of us, myself included, find her as a source of free entertainment and, assuming she adheres to her own boasts and guidelines for PvP, a very easy kill.
  • Ty - Heavens Tear
    Ty - Heavens Tear Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Notbad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ok what did zoe do to make you mad Tearvalerin? Btw ganging up on zoe is very weak of you guys -__-....don't you have something better to do?

    I'm not sure why Tearvalerin harbours so much hatred towards Zoe. But Zoe is frustratingly niave and pig-headed.

    You may know Zoe in game Notbad, perhaps that's why you seem to be taking her side. Seriously though, read through her posts again...
    truekossy wrote: »
    I don't know why anyone bothers to argue with Zoe. Seriously, it's Zoe. Trying to argue with her is like trying to teach a potato chip Calculus. Only reason I'm about to enter is because I feel like amusing myself while I eat.



    1: Full Robe wiz vs a BM that has Magical marrow active and serk axes. Since you're clearly good enough to account for all possibilities, explain in detail how the wiz would win if s/he adhered to all your rules (no healing, kiting, heiro, etc) and made sue the BM was aware of them before engaging in combat. The BM used a skill which = Fail. Therefore the Wizard simply uses normal attacks, aka melee, and PWNs said BM

    2: BM gets caught by a hell archer who just used a triple spark lightning and barely survives. If Archer hits you with pretty much any other skill, you die. You adhere to all the other rules you supply and the archer has range advantage. How will you kill it fast enough to not need to heal? Again the archer used a skill so must be a fail archer. BM just stands there and tanks damage until triple spark wears off.

    3: You get deep red, everyone knows you're uber, and a group of six or so people gang you. All six are good at their classes and none of your gear is bound. Explain not only how you'd win the fight and avoid getting killed as/// say... a robe Cleric (remember, no heals since you're supposed to kill that fast b:laugh ). Also explain in detail why, if you DO die, it would have been a bad idea to carry around a GA for the extra security and so that "fail PvPers" like the ones in this example couldn't obtain your hard-earned gear. Jumping someone is a big no-no b:shutup

    4: Archer fighting a high-dex BM that has a large amount of p.def and metal resistances. All your regular attacks do half damage now and your metal attacks are trivial at best. Explain in detail how said archer would kill the BM while adhering to your rules and staying at a distance where their attacks can be shrugged off. I'll need Zoe's help on this one. I just can't answer it b:surrender

    5: Robe wiz versus BM with magic marrow active. Explain how you'd take te attacks and kill the BM while still adhering to your PvP rules. Let's assume the Wizard knows how to play the game properly, he has a +12 rank 8 weapon and armor so just 1 shots the BM. Next please.

    6: Obviously, you laugh and move on to the next disabling skill (or kill them if you were using the stun/sleep to buy time or as a distraction) while your opponent's resistances are on cooldown and they're vulnerable to stuns/sleeps/seals/etc. Of course, anyone following your rules would be screwed since they'd have to tank the opponent while not healing, kiting, using a charm, etc.... but not many people are stupid-- I mean "pro" enough to disable themselves for the sake of giving their opponents an easier time killing them. SKILLS? lol

    7: This is true, and yet it's also false. If a veno's good enough to kill without ream, then the fact that said veno DOES have Ream won't change the outcome of the battle. It'll just bring the battle to an end sooner. Therefore, a good veno can add ream to their pet and use it knowing they can win without it, and for a bad veno, there are multiple ways to kill them even if they use ream. Thus, this point is null. Zoe said somewhere else that a veno doesn't need a pet to beat other classes, so all pet skills a null and void

    Also, thanks for the thread derail as it give me enough time to amuse myself while eating. Love how much free entertainment these forums can provide. b:victory
    I like pie
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Dear Ty,

    Thanks for the laugh. You deserve a medal or something for that. b:victory

    Sincerely, Me.
  • Ty - Heavens Tear
    Ty - Heavens Tear Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    truekossy wrote: »
    Dear Ty,

    Thanks for the laugh. You deserve a medal or something for that. b:victory

    Sincerely, Me.

    b:cute

    no h0mo
    I like pie
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    truekossy wrote: »
    I really think she only gets under the skin of a few people.

    The rest of us, myself included, find her as a source of free entertainment and, assuming she adheres to her own boasts and guidelines for PvP, a very easy kill.


    You know what under-estimating your opponent is likely to do?


    Get you killed.


    I don't care how bad you "think" Zoe is at PvP because the second you make the assumption she is bad at PvP based solely on what she posted is the second she gained an advantage over you.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Notbad - Heavens Tear
    Notbad - Heavens Tear Posts: 374 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    err i don't know zoe in game -_- but still, did you tell her that acting like "stuff" made you mad in a way you can't explain? You two coould easlily come to a compromise if you really try to. Nobody really knows all the facts about someone so why not ask or try to find out? (well i'm off speak to you tomorrow) o.o b:bye
    b:shedtearb:infuriatedb:irritated
    b:sleep
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Baby theres no other super star you know that i'll be..Listening to lady gaga b:laugh
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You know what under-estimating your opponent is likely to do?


    Get you killed.


    I don't care how bad you "think" Zoe is at PvP because the second you make the assumption she is bad at PvP based solely on what she posted is the second she gained an advantage over you.
    You know what trying to do something you'd never get away with to someone taking a fight seriously tends to do?

    Get you killed.

    Just because you don't believe, or act as if you don't believe, an opponent can defeat you doesn't mean you should leave yourself open for attack from them or treat them any differently than you'd treat your other opponents. Especially if they're at a level comparable to or higher than your own.

    I don't care how bad I "think" Zoe is at PvP either. If I were to face her in open PK/TW/a duel/etc, I'd treat her the same as any other veno because to ignore her or leave myself open would be blatant stupidity on my part. If she does wind up sucking at PvP, I'd have just managed to get myself an easy kill. If not, then I'll have worked for my kill and be able to be glad I didn't drop my guard and fail for doing so.
  • Voices - Lost City
    Voices - Lost City Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I only use uberhax to defeat my enemies. This is how I bypass Zoe's code.

    Zoe's wisdom lives on! Zoe is popular!
    ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoeZoe
ZoeZoe
Zoe
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    truekossy wrote: »
    I don't care how bad I "think" Zoe is at PvP either. If I were to face her in open PK/TW/a duel/etc, I'd treat her the same as any other veno because to ignore her or leave myself open would be blatant stupidity on my part. If she does wind up sucking at PvP, I'd have just managed to get myself an easy kill. If not, then I'll have worked for my kill and be able to be glad I didn't drop my guard and fail for doing so.

    Point taken.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

Categories