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TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »

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I have to agree that hell archer is superior. So many of the skills like stun, quickshoot and sharptooth gives chance of critical add on. And as an archer u dont have any crazy powerfull skills, u rely on crits and attack speed to kill ppl. No crits and u cant even tick someones charm endgame unless their a badly geared out wiz. Which is why heaven is very ****, every skill gives fking chi, for wut? Not like archers have 3 ultis that need chi so u can 1 shoot chunks of ppl using triple spark.

And how often u use barrage in any pvp beside TW. If i could change to hell i would gladly do so since im sage which is like a pve archer that works in HH lol. Sadly i was kinda dumb when i hit lvl 89, i really didn't plan to lvl after 90+ at all. I picked sage since i felt that the first 3 additional skills at lvl 89 is slightly better for sage than demon. Never thought u would be able to get a full skill set-up on this server this fast. So i was like, w/e i wont get any 99 skills so better go sage than. Specially after playing on MY-en for over a year and they still didn't have any 99 skills.

I guess with the anti-stun from genies sage archer might have some pvp purpose, u can zhen 4ever in TW with the 33% dmg reduction lol. Beside that they're really only usefully to make HH bosses die a bit faster.

And NO sage frost arrow does not **** heavy armor if anyone actually was dumb enough to think that. It does shiet dmg. Its useful if all metal skills are on cooldown and maybe its good in Dragon palace when everyone is water debuffed by mobs ^_^.

And no sage take aim does not 1 shoot robes unless u use fury burst and they're like 10 lvls below u and your weapon is +12. And most of the time take aim miss anyway.

Chaotiic - Lost City wrote: »

Its okay lily even tho u have crappy crit i still love you b:cute.

Nice additions devoted might wanna give some numbers in the build section tho i did a few posts like a month ago with fairly accurate numbers based of our hp per vit and damage per dex with my weapon. Might also want to mention in heaven/hell that with +12 8jun hell passive has 18.5k max pattack and heaven has 19.2k max pattack which is a 700 difference so virtually nothing.

About hell not relying on those crit buffs from sharp/stun. I have both sharptooth AND stunnning arrow hell(got stun today b:dirty) the crit buff activates whether u hit or miss so the minute u press the skill u have that crit increase. You can use sharp and stun separately or jus use one i.e. sharp crit buff lasts 15 secs and the skill cd is 15 secs whatever u do in pvp or pve a hell archer will ALWAYS have +10% crit. In fact if anyone asks me my crit rate i would just say 39% because whether im grinding or killing people that is what it is.

Quick note the crit buffs do not replace each other so if u use one the time will not be extended by using the other which can be a problem if u start with stun as u will have 5 secs without the buff but is no problem if u start with sharptooth. Its always better to start ith sharptooth anyway unless the target is running as the skill removes the hp AND THEN does the damage so its like ur doing skill damage+16% hp. Also other classes have crit buffs the main one being hell wb attack buff gives 5% crit for 1 minute nd as crit buffs do not replace each other u are stuck with 5% crit instead of ur usual 10. I only know of one wb who has this skill ad thats God_Evil so i always tell him not to rebuff me attack buff until its about to run out.

EDIT: dev copy lily's post then paste it into ur original post and manually turn it into a qoute (have to type summin like [/QOUTE]) then do a reference to the page number that lily posted it on

Chaotiic - Lost City wrote: »

Pro guide dev soooo many fail archers on lost city its not even funny.

A few things to mention:

Archers with Ling yun
Vit build Archers
Archers using the Dragonbow(90hh bow)
Str build archers
Archers using evasion stones
Archers using DoTs EVER

Also a good thing to bring up is archer damage at 9x. Many people seem to believe archers have some amazingly high damage when really our damage comes from our crits, we rely on them sooo much. A full buffed 9x does not die to an archer who doesnt crit no matter what their build/class. This is probably the main reason why hell>heaven as hell build on our main attributes CRIT evasion and acc.

Something to note envy and i checked out heaven/hell masteries with a +12 8jun bow and found heaven has 19.2k max hell has 18.5k max. So when u have 18,500 max pattack being heaven would give u 700 extra.

I now have hell zhen, sharptooth and deadly shot. Since you always get the crit buff when u use sharp whether u hit or miss it is as if i ALWAYS have 39% crit and 2-3 crits in a row pvp and pve is not uncommon.

EDIT: when this is finished it should be stickied

putaketepariu wrote: »

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missqq wrote: »

lol devoted is goodb:laugh