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Celestial Guardian's Seal is evil... just don't use it on everyone except for yourself :P

50 or 100 HP/MP Regen/sec >> Level 10 Celestial Guardian's Seal

I think this topic has been covered many times. I think most of the cleric community always check to see if people are running orbs or powders but it would be helpful if people just straight up said they were running something or planned on it.


2)Tell them asap that you have a powder on you - /agree

I always try to check if they have those before buffing. But it's easy to miss sometimes, and if I do over buff them and I realize I apologize.

Sure, it's easy to say "just don't use that buff", but then why did we spend all that SP and coin? And it really can be useful for some classes.

~Del

I've only ever run into this problem once, back when I was in the level 40 range. Most people know my buffs are on a combo macro. Don't want the buff, don't ask me to buff you because I don't care if you're using a pot.

To be frank, if you're asking a cleric to buff you, its saving you that pot, better or not. Then again, at my level, either pot or buff isn't enough to keep you alive anyway and people don't waste their time over such a trivial matter.

Many threads about this has be made and clerics always come here and say
"oh I always check if they have buff befor.... oh shut up

They should make all Powders have some dam... priority over every single level of Celestial Guardian's seal.

So no matter how hard that noob Cleric tries to overwrite your powder. You can laugh at his **** while he/she QQs and waste mana.

Powders should have a different buff icon completely, and the clerics buffs shouldnt be overwritten ever. The game shouldnt allow a lvl 10 buff to be overwritten by a lvl 9 or lvl 2 buff !!! And why cant we see the levels of the buffs on the player, its just a basic description!

There is nothing you can really do about people who randomly buff. They should not, but there are a lot of those out there that think they somehow are obligated to buff ppl all the time. And this can be said for some of the veno's out there too that randomly buff ppl in towns and such.

The issue then arises when in a squad. IF you are grinding, the cleric you are grinding with should alrdy have the knowledge that you are using a powder. If not, it is failure to communicate on you part.

I personally do not use the full squad buffs usually unless alone (bc it lasts for an hr...b:victory) or if I am running fb's/HH's. Even then you ask if everyone is rdy and wanting buffs. If someone does not, then they can leave the squad for a moment or the individual buffs can be utilized.

Ultimately what it comes down to is you telling the cleric if you want the buffs or not. There have been plenty of times when I have had squad members ask for one buff only and that is easy.

The random buffers....something you are going to have to deal with in the lower level towns. Once you get to the higher level towns, you will need to ask for a buff(s), as they are not given out randomly.

To the Clerics out there.....DO NOT RANDOMLY BUFF! You do not have too and it is not our job to make sure everyone has buffs. It is a waste of mana and time. b:bye

Mikel_oru - Sanctuary wrote: »

When I see a person in my party with the regen indications on him/her I don't buff them. I have been buffed a few times while using powders and I use powders all the time when I grind/questing - sucks if you run on a Cleric that's not carefull.

So? It happens, and i am sure that the most clerics dont intend to overwrite your powders. And case be, you wouldn't see that many random buffers if there is no demands for it....and just fly by any town and i am sure youll get "buff me please" in a matter of seconds.

Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »

I doubt the cleric will cry, though I'm pretty sure if you laugh at them, you will start receiving no buffs at all from anyone. b:chuckle It's happened in Sanctuary with players who have the wrong gaming attitude.

Be thankful for the buffs- we don't need to stop what we are doing and buff you up.

It's ok... 99% of the people I play with in the game think I'm kind of a nice saint like player... mwuahhaha! I can act really well. b:victory

Lol, I've buffed over my own activated pots. xD b:embarrass


I think that it's not usually common for people to have pots on when in a party with a cleric. So if you are going use one before buffing up, just say something in the squad or to the cleric, lol.

When I join a party with just a few people for grinding or something and they have buffs on, I assume they are using powders and just rebuff everything else. If their hp/mp regen disappears soon after assuming they had pots on, I give them that buff.

I don't have much to say about clerics who see people and just buff them. Not anything you can do... I've had low level clerics give me buffs. :P

Mohkano - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well, the problem isn't so much partying with someone when I know before hand that I am going to be buffed, but rather when I'm grinding by myself and my hands are dancing across the keys as I'm casting different things and kiting and whatnot, and in guild chat as well, and some random cleric comes by and starts buffing me.

K that would suck lol >_>

I'm telling you, I know the world can go on with the current system, but I cant think of a single argument against powders stacking with celestial. If someone can think of one let me know. I make due in life by constantly living by a code of no buffing unless you have been given the green light but the fact of the matter is from now until the end of time, there will always be buffers ruining powders(which aren't cheap in my eyes) and there is no reason for that. Celestial is used little enough as it is, change a status icon or something...

Torrakreos - Harshlands wrote: »

I can't even count how many powders i lost to clerics with their random buffs on my other chars. And they always give the same dopey answer "don't u wanna get buffed?". I played a cleric too and MINDED MY OWN DAMN BUSINESS! I understand if u rolled a cleric to help your squad mates but why are you random buffing? Don't offer help if ur not asked. Anyway if a cleric uses that DEBUFF on me when im grinding with powders i interpret it as agression (cuz its a debuff in this case) and if he/she isn't a very high lvl ill pk him/her. Mind your own business...b:angry

Yeah, as a cleric never buff or help no one of your own good will, cause 1 in 100000 times you will accidentally cast hp/mp buff and overwrite his powder.
And dont get res cause "mind your own damn business" so you wont be able to help some random poor champ that died.

DONT DO THAT EVER!!!

Now really! Go suck a lemon and leave us clerics alone.

Torrakreos - Harshlands wrote: »

Tough words from a class that messes things up more than helps solving. I didn't say dont get rez (although dolls prevent exp loss and scrolls save u a trip back so rez is unnecesary but oh well...) Im only talking cuz i had bad experiences with clerics. Idiots that buffed me once then after re-powdering came back and buffed me again, gimps who go lvl up their buffs and ALL HEALS and leave plume and cyclone low and cant PVE without help and buff me expecting me to do their quest, another genius who kept healing a mage who KS me and i was trying to get him killed so he would leave me alone. All im saying is think before u act because u can do alot of damage. The fact that u have heals and buffs doesnt mean u should go around and use them aimlessly. And if ur free to buff whoever u want, im free to get pi$$ed and kill u...b:bye

Dude, your on a PvP server, it's in the clerics' best interest to ruin your buffs and get you weak/killed, just to laugh at you and brag how you are incompetent without buffs... You know, there are "accidents" that aren't "coincidental" (and the majority of noobs will never get that fact) <.<