catshop proooblems

Weng - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You'll notice that if you log out in town and log back in, the frist thing you'll see are the catshops. Then the non-shop players graphics will not load till a bit after.

so the lag should be caused by all the players around the shop that's bogging down the game client in loading the different armor/weapon graphics and not the cat shop graphics.

That's a different issue. Because the game allows customized facial features and armor/fashion, your client doesn't automatically know how to render each person. That info has to be received from the server. For the cat shops it's easy - gender, name, and position. So that info gets sent relatively quickly. For people running around nearby, there's a lot more info that needs to be sent - facial and body features, armor, weapon, shards and glowiness, mounts (if in use), movement updates, etc. So those take longer to get sent by the server, resulting in people taking longer to appear when you login. (Their network code doesn't seem to be very good either, but I don't want to get into that.)

The lag (low framerate) in crowded areas is caused by all the polygons your video card has to render. More polygons = more time to render = lower framerate. So having lots of people, shops, mounts, etc. adds to the polygon count slowing things down. To speed things up, you have to either use simpler models with fewer polygons and less detail (partly what ctrl-F9 does), or hide some of the models so they don't have to be rendered (my idea, and what ctrl-F9 does with the distance slider).

Fedxp - Lost City wrote: »

That doesn't always work for some people, it may only help get rid of some lag for them.

I like the idea of a "Trade Town", instead of people spamming catshops in Archy. b:dirtyb:chuckle

It SHOULD work for everyone. CTRL+f9 puts all game settings to the lowest possible. If your computer is still choking in west arch even after that then it's time to upgrade. How can you consider yourself a gamer with such a **** computer? b:shocked

Fraps says I'm at 24 fps west arch Heavens Tear; thats with max settings 1280 res (crappy monitor b:shocked). I tried on HT because it's 10x more crowded than HL which is my home server. But yeah, 24 fps at max settings. With ctrl+f9 I go up to 50+ fps anywhere I go in west arch. And I can also move the sliders under the UI tab so I can see players. Theres not a noticable drop when I do that.

My computer is not new either. It's an oc'ed E8400 with a 9800GT card and 2gb ram. Two year old computer...

Yes! West side is overpopulated, and you see this is due to the fact of the west-side-gate is a primary enter/exit for most quested areas, such as "The mines".

Let us not forget all the major NPC's we have to visit,as well as, they are mainly set up on the west side of Archosaur.

If it were balanced, throughout the city with NPC's that we mainly visit, it will enhance not only the gaming community but would satisfy a more broader, and economical environment.

b:victory

P.S.
Confucius says,"Rebuild the past, see the future".

IF they were to disable kitty shops i'd quit...thre is too much in arch i need on a daily basis and w.q. already requires you to fly around the world enough as it is....... not going out of the way to solve you lag sorry, if you log and relog in it will usually fix your problem

I wouldnt like a trade town, arch is a huge town that lots of poeple go to at all lvs. The thought of having to fly somewhere to go check out some shops ehh.. maybe they could set up an NPC in arch that will tele you to a trading realm or whatever. that way its still in arch.

I dont lag to much in arch tho. Only when i have up other things like ..forums lol.

Theres another game i played for a bit "Shaiya" That has a massive main city right in the centre of he map and I think it mightve lagged there from all the shops. So they created a portal that leads to another city, theres only one way to get there and that is through the portal.
Player shops were banned in all places except through that portal and it works really well.

If people would spread out a bit more, that would be nice.

I prefer to buy from the auction honestly, its faster, easier and sometimes comes up with much cheaper prices.

Again though, if people would just spread out a bit that would be wonderful.

Vallerie - Lost City wrote: »

I don't understand why we need a new town. Just ban cat shops all together in every city. Then make the auction house free to use. Done. No need to make another town all together.

3 things you forgot about....
1. Catshops work for buying things as well as selling.
2. Catshops allow you to buy part of a stack.
3. Catshops can be set up where there is no auctioneer nearby.

1 and 2 could be fixed with some coding. 3 would require something like the cash shop, where you can open the auction window anywhere. That takes away a bit from the game, as now there is no thinking involved where to put your cash shop. No chance to take advantage of your position, for example the Bully room in the cube, or right outside the TT instance.

The guy who suggested just being able to turn them off had the ideal solution. Easily coded and it doesnt change any functionality.

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

There's an even simpler solution. They should just add a "hide cat shop" button. If you're just passing through Arch for quests or visit NPCs, you'd turn this on and the client wouldn't download nor render the cat shops. When you do wish to shop, you'd just hit that button and all the cat shops would show up again.

There is. Go to the panel you go to to change the graphical settings and on the first tab there will be a bunch of checked or unchecked boxes. Check the one that says "hide player shops or something like that