Lvl 101 wizard "guide"

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  • aeson
    aeson Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    After spending some time on Ecatomb:
    Earth Strike = Undine Strike
    Blizzard Blast = Glacial Snare
    Blasting point = Force of Will
    Mountain Press = Mountain's Seize
    Blazing Hierogram = Pyrogram
    Arenaceous Wave (飞沙术) = Sandstorm
    Fury burst = Spark (1, not 2 or heaven/hell)
  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    aeson wrote: »
    After spending some time on Ecatomb:
    Earth Strike = Undine Strike
    Blizzard Blast = Glacial Snare
    Blasting point = Force of Will
    Mountain Press = Mountain's Seize
    Blazing Hierogram = Pyrogram
    Arenaceous Wave (飞沙术) = Sandstorm
    Fury burst = Spark (1, not 2 or heaven/hell)

    Thank you very much.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    And according to PWdatabase, Blade Tempest = Pyro-Edge Tempest. Which wasn't mentioned. At all.


    Interesting. You'd think the only (half) physical skill would be useful for something, but if he didn't mention it, I'm starting to wonder what that means exactly. I'd assume it's because Arcane users focus on pdef enough etc, and along with being fully buffed, it cancelling out the advantage of hitting both their pdef and fire res rather than just the water/earth res. But I honestly have no idea.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • aeson
    aeson Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    And according to PWdatabase, Blade Tempest = Pyro-Edge Tempest. Which wasn't mentioned. At all.


    Interesting. You'd think the only (half) physical skill would be useful for something, but if he didn't mention it, I'm starting to wonder what that means exactly. I'd assume it's because Arcane users focus on pdef enough etc, and along with being fully buffed, it cancelling out the advantage of hitting both their pdef and fire res rather than just the water/earth res. But I honestly have no idea.

    Per the OP:
    Some points to note, if you see a light mage, water dragon, if you see a robe mage, mountain press and fire off other magic. If you see a noob mage, 59 fire.

    59 fire skill = Blade Tempest. Yeah, it's confusing, but he switches between spell names, animation descriptions and level/element identifiers.


    BT looses effectiveness later, as you can see, his Pded is roughly the same as his Mdef - making BT useless for the most part. When you can resist both the element and physical damage of the spell, it's worthless to use. That, and he's a heaven mage, so Glacial Snare (sage: -20% water res) > BIDS (water damage + 50% of 30% critrate) syncs better for higher damage output.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    aeson wrote: »
    Per the OP:
    Some points to note, if you see a light mage, water dragon, if you see a robe mage, mountain press and fire off other magic. If you see a noob mage, 59 fire.

    59 fire skill = Blade Tempest. Yeah, it's confusing, but he switches between spell names, animation descriptions and level/element identifiers.


    BT looses effectiveness later, as you can see, his Pded is roughly the same as his Mdef - making BT useless for the most part. When you can resist both the element and physical damage of the spell, it's worthless to use. That, and he's a heaven mage, so Glacial Snare (sage: -20% water res) > BIDS (water damage + 50% of 30% critrate) syncs better for higher damage output.
    Oh I missed that one. But yeah, sounds like BT ends up not being very useful.


    And Glacial Snare doesn't seem that practical... considering undine does a better job at lowering resistances, and would allow your fire/earth spell hits/crits after dragon to hurt more. Unless Snare/Undine effects stack, but nobody has confirmed that and it sounds unlikely. The 15 sec cooldown doesn't help Snare either.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • aeson
    aeson Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    And Glacial Snare doesn't seem that practical... considering undine does a better job at lowering resistances, and would allow your fire/earth spell hits/crits after dragon to hurt more. Unless Snare/Undine effects stack, but nobody has confirmed that and it sounds unlikely. The 15 sec cooldown doesn't help Snare either.

    The snare applies 2 effects: 92% chance to slow 80% speed for 6 seconds, and once you go sage, you get the additional resistance reduction. This stacks when in sutra, where BIDS comes out with little time. This combo is essentially a 3 hit hammer:

    Slow + resistance reduction > mass damage with chance to increase critrate > sutra finish with additional critrate if BIDS sage effect applies (and you use more water effects to capitalize on snare effect).

    The cooldown doesn't matter on snare either, since he favors sage seize more due to the 50% chance to cast it using 1 spark - not two. So snare doesn't stack with most of his macros anyway. That's where undine comes in: Undine > Seize.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    aeson wrote: »
    The snare applies 2 effects: 92% chance to slow 80% speed for 6 seconds, and once you go sage, you get the additional resistance reduction. This stacks when in sutra, where BIDS comes out with little time. This combo is essentially a 3 hit hammer:

    Slow + resistance reduction > mass damage with chance to increase critrate > sutra finish with additional critrate if BIDS sage effect applies (and you use more water effects to capitalize on snare effect).

    The cooldown doesn't matter on snare either, since he favors sage seize more due to the 50% chance to cast it using 1 spark - not two. So snare doesn't stack with most of his macros anyway. That's where undine comes in: Undine > Seize.
    "more water effects" meaning what? Hail and gush? Assuming you're still in sutra, you'd still be better off using other spells. Either I'm not getting you or I disagree. Which would result in Undine being a better bet to me.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    so, Kill That Fu.cking Piece Of Sh.it God Damn Phoenix First

    Rofl I Love This Guy

    But whats sad is that he (wizards) have to use a 12 sec invicibility pot to beat things 1v1. What the hell lol. Against WF, Archer, etc
  • Hidden - Lost City
    Hidden - Lost City Posts: 338 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Rofl I Love This Guy

    But whats sad is that he (wizards) have to use a 12 sec invicibility pot to beat things 1v1. What the hell lol. Against WF, Archer, etc

    cause from what it sounds like, the whole servers running around with +12 rank 8 weapons. so it seems like his saying everyone got the ability to 2-3 hit everyone else, and to prevent that happening gotta use those pots to allow urself to get the most hits off first.
  • AndromedaB - Sanctuary
    AndromedaB - Sanctuary Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    lol

    wizehz tend to not to pk each ohterb:laugh
    usualy just meet and be friends cuz u havent met a new wizzeh in a while >_>



    not very many wizzehs...
  • Ffilteg - Sanctuary
    Ffilteg - Sanctuary Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Hello b:bye

    Fresh blood here... Loving my wizard now if got outa the -40's and "fixed" my attributes.

    Thanks to the OP for putting this guide here, it has been interesting to read it and the discussion which has followed. I can't imagine the timescale involved to get to that stage with a wizard. It's mind boggling b:surrender
  • drag0nball
    drag0nball Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    aeson wrote: »
    Per the OP:
    Some points to note, if you see a light mage, water dragon, if you see a robe mage, mountain press and fire off other magic. If you see a noob mage, 59 fire.

    59 fire skill = Blade Tempest. Yeah, it's confusing, but he switches between spell names, animation descriptions and level/element identifiers.


    BT looses effectiveness later, as you can see, his Pded is roughly the same as his Mdef - making BT useless for the most part. When you can resist both the element and physical damage of the spell, it's worthless to use. That, and he's a heaven mage, so Glacial Snare (sage: -20% water res) > BIDS (water damage + 50% of 30% critrate) syncs better for higher damage output.


    Yeah..thats true and Blade empest the strongets skill ever at lower lvls against robe will be considered the weakest at lvl 90-100.

    And Dragon Strike proove very good and even better the Mountain Size because of the 95% chance for 6 secs stun if you use with sutra of course.
    And do not forget he mentioned that "the key is magci resistence because magic deals too much damage"


    But a ting that buggs me you say that he is a Sage Mage..but than I don't understand the thing.
    http://zoome.jp/aoi2yuki/diary/33/ this was the veido what was already written here..and the purple thing is a devil for me..
    And one more thing...his first skill what he used it was the uncharged Demon Emberstorm which had 50% chance to stun (coma) the oppponent. If you look closer you will see that the venomancer is stunned for 3 secs. And only Demon skill posses that speciallity. And if he choosed to be Demon than he must follow the Demon path with all skills.. he cannot posses sage skills in one type and demon skills in another type of spells...

    I think he used the Glacial Snare because he owns the lvl 11 skill and maybe it is too hard to get the lvl 11 Sandstorm demon skill book...otherwise Sandstrom would be best...
    Even the Demon Stoen barrier is hard to get it as I hear....
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    level 92 skills are harder to get than 99. in our server, level 92 skills come from an untranslated advanced cube. so really hard to get here.

    he used glacial snare because that skill is just a heavy nuke. it hits very hard and he has a weapon of such high power that it's going to tick/almost tick a charm. and it imobalizes them for 6 seconds.

    sandstorm on a magic based char is pointless when you have snare maxed, because decreasing their accuracy doesn't affect them and you could do more damage with snare.
  • Orenji - Heavens Tear
    Orenji - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    drag0nball wrote: »
    Yeah..thats true and Blade empest the strongets skill ever at lower lvls against robe will be considered the weakest at lvl 90-100.

    And Dragon Strike proove very good and even better the Mountain Size because of the 95% chance for 6 secs stun if you use with sutra of course.
    And do not forget he mentioned that "the key is magci resistence because magic deals too much damage"


    But a ting that buggs me you say that he is a Sage Mage..but than I don't understand the thing.
    http://zoome.jp/aoi2yuki/diary/33/ this was the veido what was already written here..and the purple thing is a devil for me..
    And one more thing...his first skill what he used it was the uncharged Demon Emberstorm which had 50% chance to stun (coma) the oppponent. If you look closer you will see that the venomancer is stunned for 3 secs. And only Demon skill posses that speciallity. And if he choosed to be Demon than he must follow the Demon path with all skills.. he cannot posses sage skills in one type and demon skills in another type of spells...

    I think he used the Glacial Snare because he owns the lvl 11 skill and maybe it is too hard to get the lvl 11 Sandstorm demon skill book...otherwise Sandstrom would be best...
    Even the Demon Stoen barrier is hard to get it as I hear....

    You should realise the guy in the video isnt the one that made the guide, i posted the video to give ppl and example of how effective the combo was because i explained to ppl in game that using mountain seize for stun is good and they usually comment on how the dmg from that spell is low compared to dragon.
  • dekciw
    dekciw Posts: 954 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    You should realise the guy in the video isnt the one that made the guide, i posted the video to give ppl and example of how effective the combo was because i explained to ppl in game that using mountain seize for stun is good and they usually comment on how the dmg from that spell is low compared to dragon.

    + Ice Dragon is quite flashy and everyone notice you if you're trying to cast it. Aka focus fire and you're dead. RapeRock is a bit more sneaky.
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  • Orenji - Heavens Tear
    Orenji - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Here's vid with a similar combo being used against a cleric
    http://zoome.jp/aoi2yuki/diary/30
    This isnt pk though so no charms being used in this vid its 1v1 duel between MG and EP in a pvp event on the server
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    dekciw wrote: »
    + Ice Dragon is quite flashy and everyone notice you if you're trying to cast it. Aka focus fire and you're dead. RapeRock is a bit more sneaky.
    Not by a lot... Seize's animation isn't exactly subtle either.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Orenji - Heavens Tear
    Orenji - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    dekciw wrote: »
    + Ice Dragon is quite flashy and everyone notice you if you're trying to cast it. Aka focus fire and you're dead. RapeRock is a bit more sneaky.

    Well the animation from dragon is flashy but so is the one from mountain seize,
    i usually check roster to see which ppl are in STUN groups in TW because BM often have couple ppl locked, that's the best time to try using any of the 59 skills because every class knows what the mage nukes are capable of doing and they know what the animation looks like so as soon as you try channeling you get stunned/sleep/sealed by enemy and ignored depending on what situation is.
  • AndromedaB - Sanctuary
    AndromedaB - Sanctuary Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    the guy is higher lv than the cleirc...
  • Orenji - Heavens Tear
    Orenji - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    i wasnt paying much attention the fairies but i was looking at weapons and noticed that they are probably using similar equipment so the lvl dif is not much, thats my assumptions based of the how fast the mage and clerics hp went down after each hit.
  • Jertor - Sanctuary
    Jertor - Sanctuary Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    helpful guide o.o
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    that was the longest duel ever, what happen to duels being 30 seconds b:shutup
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • RoGz - Lost City
    RoGz - Lost City Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    very useful thread and makes a good read..
    i have lvl 10 earth mast and lvl 9 water mastary and lvl 10 SS and lvl 9 Glacial and the glacial out dmg's the sand storm...iv got well used to using it against any malee class in duels at the start of a sutra..
  • DishyWiggles - Harshlands
    DishyWiggles - Harshlands Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I want a 9k non-crit BID :(. actually i want 2 be lvl 89. actually i want 2 get 6x T_T. but this guy seems like the best on the server ROFL. 200k rep, he must been 2 alot of weddings :P
  • fluwerbas
    fluwerbas Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    High level wizards are most powerful class when it comes to PKing at high levels with highly upgraded gear and full buffs. Check my youtube channel to see some awesome wizard PVP/PK videos.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/t24nD0m
    Subscribe if you like my videos!
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    fluwerbas wrote: »
    High level wizards are most powerful class when it comes to PKing at high levels with highly upgraded gear and full buffs. Check my youtube channel to see some awesome wizard PVP/PK videos.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/t24nD0m
    Subscribe if you like my videos!

    o.O in one of those vids the wiz is like tanking two bms on him in that group battle thats gotta be some crazy gears lol.
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Private server videos are unimpressive to me. Best PWI vids would be Pandora's TW videos.
    "Amour is better suited to rainbow text, because he is a classy lady." - Nakhimov
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Mind setting up a link for the uninformed amour? Yeah, private server vid seemed a lil too unrealistic when u see 1k+ crits on the wizard and he still has 85% of his life left o.o
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    http://www.rqclan.com/vids/stream/RQTheatre.html

    It's missing the most recent vids as he was unable to upload them, which is a shame because they're the better ones (8x territory wars against GZ, amazing)
    "Amour is better suited to rainbow text, because he is a classy lady." - Nakhimov
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    http://www.rqclan.com/vids/stream/RQTheatre.html

    It's missing the most recent vids as he was unable to upload them, which is a shame because they're the better ones (8x territory wars against GZ, amazing)

    ty b:victory

    edit - lol at the saintpain tw one party vs their guild. o.O was Pandora pulling a cata?