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    • Posts: 1,445 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Amour - Lost City wrote: »
      No it isn't.
      Ults are 500% and 8-9k...
      Glacial snare is comparable to sandstorm, which costs about 1.5m less and usually does more due to maxed earth mastery.
      Can you just leave the wizard forums please?

      actually, no, it's not. sandstorm is good, glacial is better. a sparked glacial snare is comparable to an ult, why don't you try it?

      why is everybody from lost city so ignorant? if i was from lost city, i'm sure you all would listen to what i'm saying without denying the obvious.
    • Posts: 119 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Yes Orenji I just see how charged the Emberstorm so fast and you are right...The reduce channeling items does not influence the charging speed. I was surprised about that too.
      But I see now the trick... You know I just find out right now (because I see all of us are Emberstorm noobs) how it works. He just used teh Emberstorm but he clicked again teh Emberstrom spell while he charged and than te EMberstorm spell was completed...and so the Emberstorm was not released in full power.. the only point for him was to stun the opponent (which has 50% chance). So he did not lost 60% HP only a bit and teh stun worked well this time. I didn;t knew that you can release the spell before the charging is complete...
      And I saw even the healing channeling is quite fast... so he must have reduced chaneling items... I wish to know those names of the items..

      Only 1 skill I saw which I dont know his name and I don'tpossess it. It looked like a bloodi thing on the venomancer. It was the skill before the gush. Somebody knows what is that spell?
    • Posts: 52 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      I see, i dont use the spell so thanks for pointing that out lol
      i just tested it out as well, very usefull after you get the demon version.. that 3 sec stun with 15m cooldown is pretty good, even though the range is short.

      Yea its obvious he has -chan gear and if that magic sword he's using is the one i think it is then he gets -10% from just that one item lol.
    • Posts: 1,825 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      actually, no, it's not. sandstorm is good, glacial is better. a sparked glacial snare is comparable to an ult, why don't you try it?

      why is everybody from lost city so ignorant? if i was from lost city, i'm sure you all would listen to what i'm saying without denying the obvious.

      If you're going to double spark you might as well use an AOE ULT, because as soon as someone sees the spark they're going to run or stun/seal. Sandstorm does 600 less raw damage than snare, and costs 1m+ less, maxes sooner, and like I said, will probably do more because people max earth mastery first.
      No, if you were from lost city I'd find you and oneshot you because you're a full int cleric posting on wizard forums.
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    • Posts: 1,445 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      2 sparks gone, not everybody carries chi pots and can cast another 2 spark ult. 80% loss in speed > 50% accuracy.

      no, i'm not full int. and lol, you have clerics in ragequit that are full int. stfu.
    • Posts: 1,825 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      No, not a double spark ult.
      Just an ult.
      Gtfo please.
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    • Posts: 416 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Amour - Lost City wrote: »
      No, not a double spark ult.
      Just an ult.
      Gtfo please.

      Nuff Said. :)
    • Posts: 1,445 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Amour - Lost City wrote: »
      No, not a double spark ult.
      Just an ult.
      Gtfo please.
      relax kiddie. and seeing as you have 12 seconds anyways, why wouldn't you use snare? jesus.
      BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
      Nuff Said. :)
      hush random.
    • Posts: 2,016 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      relax kiddie. and seeing as you have 12 seconds anyways, why wouldn't you use snare? jesus.
      As Amour already explained, Sandstorm > Snare.


      And using both is a stupid idea. Try it yourself if you can't figure out why.
      Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
    • Posts: 52 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Uh quit the flameing before mod locks topic

      Ya so heres a vid with Mage vs Barb, you really need good refines to bring out mage full potential.

      http://zoome.jp/aoi2yuki/diary/22/
    • Posts: 416 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      hush random.

      This is coming from a Cleric on HT servers posting on a wizard thread, annoying more then a handful. Cute.
    • Posts: 351 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Amour - Lost City wrote: »
      No it isn't.
      Ults are 500% and 8-9k...
      Glacial snare is comparable to sandstorm, which costs about 1.5m less and usually does more due to maxed earth mastery.
      Can you just leave the wizard forums please?

      Necro quote, but, I think you quoted the wrong person. o.o
      As only the child that I was, I tread with giants.
      Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
      And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
    • Posts: 1,825 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Skyannie - Lost City wrote: »
      Necro quote, but, I think you quoted the wrong person. o.o

      Fixed b:thanks
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    • Posts: 119 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Amour - Lost City wrote: »
      If you're going to double spark you might as well use an AOE ULT, because as soon as someone sees the spark they're going to run or stun/seal. Sandstorm does 600 less raw damage than snare, and costs 1m+ less, maxes sooner, and like I said, will probably do more because people max earth mastery first.
      No, if you were from lost city I'd find you and oneshot you because you're a full int cleric posting on wizard forums.


      Well Glacial snare I believe it is costs 3 million coins more to lvl to lvl 10...But heeeyyy....we are talking a lvl 101 mage here..so he does not possess all the skills??? Glacial is stronger at lvl 10 still and he can use than he use the stronger one...

      But to be honest the sage/demon version of sandstorm hits harder than the glacial snare...
      But think he used the glacial snare becuse he didn't had the sandstorm demon skill learned because maybe e didn't fount the book...



      I wish to know in the guide those equipments name in PWI...
    • Posts: 351 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      drag0nball wrote: »
      I wish to know in the guide those equipments name in PWI...

      www.pwdatabase.com

      If you type in the provided PW-MY name on the MY version, you can then select the PWI flag while still on the desired subject, and it will translate it to the PWI version of said item/mob/etc.
      As only the child that I was, I tread with giants.
      Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
      And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
    • Posts: 1,445 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      BrownflameZ - Lost City wrote: »
      This is coming from a Cleric on HT servers posting on a wizard thread, annoying more then a handful. Cute.

      quiet random.
    • Posts: 1,341 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      using spark things near a group of targets is not only begging to get interrupted/silenced but also ganked. that's why manifest virtue is important. you can cast it far away from targets. even then using sutra makes things much safer.

      sandstorm hits higher than glacial for demon but... for that guy with 20k base dmg, +1200 means nothing. sage glacial snare is more appealing once you pick the strongest target of the group and sutra+glacial+black ice dragon. looks lethal.

      the guy seems to use lvl 6 apothecary potions. not even the lvl5 ones (and let's say getting the herbs isn't a piece of cake) give 2 sparks.
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    • Posts: 52 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      using spark things near a group of targets is not only begging to get interrupted/silenced but also ganked. that's why manifest virtue is important. you can cast it far away from targets. even then using sutra makes things much safer.

      sandstorm hits higher than glacial for demon but... for that guy with 20k base dmg, +1200 means nothing. sage glacial snare is more appealing once you pick the strongest target of the group and sutra+glacial+black ice dragon. looks lethal.

      the guy seems to use lvl 6 apothecary potions. not even the lvl5 ones (and let's say getting the herbs isn't a piece of cake) give 2 sparks.

      why would you use glacial for debuff when you have undine strike? =s
      the sage version of glacial gives 20% water debuff and undine gives 60% + it is 1 sec chan x.x
    • Posts: 1,341 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      Orenji - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      why would you use glacial for debuff when you have undine strike? =s
      the sage version of glacial gives 20% water debuff and undine gives 60% + it is 1 sec chan x.x

      glacial gives 20 chi. i'm not sure undine gives any chi since I don't have it. the damage point is that glacial takes a decent chunk of HP while not enough to make target regen through charm. I haven't tested that in practise but looks better for the slowing part, chi, initial dmg, water res curse and chances of killing it with black ice dragon are still good while target will be still close to the group. probably enough to hit more people with aoe.
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    • Posts: 2,016 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      glacial gives 20 chi. i'm not sure undine gives any chi since I don't have it. the damage point is that glacial takes a decent chunk of HP while not enough to make target regen through charm. I haven't tested that in practise but looks better for the slowing part, chi, initial dmg, water res curse and chances of killing it with black ice dragon are still good while target will be still close to the group. probably enough to hit more people with aoe.
      Yeah, Glacial would lower the HP in a way where, hopefully, Dragon would go past the hiero. Would be nice if Snare's sage effect and Undine stacked, but I doubt they do.


      And I don't think Undine gives any chi.

      EDIT: yeah just checked Pandora's vid, it doesn't.
      Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
    • Posts: 52 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      glacial gives 20 chi. i'm not sure undine gives any chi since I don't have it. the damage point is that glacial takes a decent chunk of HP while not enough to make target regen through charm. I haven't tested that in practise but looks better for the slowing part, chi, initial dmg, water res curse and chances of killing it with black ice dragon are still good while target will be still close to the group. probably enough to hit more people with aoe.

      well then your assuming that the mage has sage version of glacial but are you also assuming that he has the sage version of the dragon as well?, usually if you decide to use black ice dragon against a target it means that hes in heavy armor and if he's a bm that dont see it comming then he might not have marrow on which ment he got 1shotted, barbs on other hand you need a crite to 1shot if he has over 20k hp... so glacials dmg/debuff dont really play a role in that scenario imo

      1 more thing i just asked in game, it doesnt give any chi
    • Posts: 17 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      drag0nball wrote: »
      OMG!!! that video was just freaking awesome..and he is not bufed at all when started the fight... and used Emebrstorm??? that guy is really something else...
      But I think the phoenix is fixed there and thats why he lasted so long:P

      yes, coz the the chinese version of the PW is different compared to PWI, and maybe the japanese version is the same. their emebrstorm does way more dmg than PWI, and because of that, a lot of wiz there does VIT build, where they have as much hp as possible, so they act as human bombs
    • Posts: 1,341 Arc User
      edited March 2009
      I'm assuming it could be a barb with crazy hp or maybe a light bm with or without alter. I'm 110% sure any of them would simply run straight to the wiz like a train.

      the point of using glacial for chi is that 3 sparks+99chi aren't enough to use sutra and 59 spell. need 1 more between these to gain at least 1 chi. glacial seems to be a better choice for sage because I think the slowing effect, even for 1 second and a half can make the difference between striking a full squad and taking only the target aimed. of course lvl11 glacial snare looks even more appealing but I think it's worth even at lvl 10.

      lvl11 sandtorm for demons look far more appealing than glacial snare. and, as I'm considering lvl 11 spells, demons would certainly hit lvl11 mountain's seize instead of black ice dragon due to its higher range.
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    • Posts: 338 Arc User
      edited April 2009
      nowhere in his guide do i see undine strike. thats backed up with him saying wiz/wiz and wiz/cleric fights are difficult due to high magic defense.

      its a great guide but i feel alot of it is outdated.
    • Posts: 52 Arc User
      edited April 2009
      Hidden - Lost City wrote: »
      nowhere in his guide do i see undine strike. thats backed up with him saying wiz/wiz and wiz/cleric fights are difficult due to high magic defense.

      its a great guide but i feel alot of it is outdated.

      Actually he did mention it a lot in the guide its just not called undine strike on the pw version he's playing on.

      Earth Strike = Undine strike
    • Posts: 2,016 Arc User
      edited April 2009
      Hidden - Lost City wrote: »
      nowhere in his guide do i see undine strike. thats backed up with him saying wiz/wiz and wiz/cleric fights are difficult due to high magic defense.

      its a great guide but i feel alot of it is outdated.
      lol they're ahead of us
      Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
    • Posts: 338 Arc User
      edited April 2009
      ah names so confusing. i guess if its hard to kill after that, even the weakest of players there running around with 8k hp or something.
    • Posts: 90 Arc User
      edited April 2009
      Xiyao - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      yes, coz the the chinese version of the PW is different compared to PWI, and maybe the japanese version is the same. their emebrstorm does way more dmg than PWI, and because of that, a lot of wiz there does VIT build, where they have as much hp as possible, so they act as human bombs

      I dont think he really is vit build, tho its not really possible to see since you dont know his stats and equip and all that.

      I really think he only uses an uncharged demon emberstorm just for stun purposes. The skill still deals some damage even if you dont charge it, and 50% chance of stun (as an aoe!) is actually really nice.
      After seeing this video i want that skill b:shutup
    • Posts: 901 Arc User
      edited April 2009
      Oz - Lost City wrote: »
      I dont think he really is vit build, tho its not really possible to see since you dont know his stats and equip and all that.

      I really think he only uses an uncharged demon emberstorm just for stun purposes. The skill still deals some damage even if you dont charge it, and 50% chance of stun (as an aoe!) is actually really nice.
      After seeing this video i want that skill b:shutup

      Really, which video?

      Nevermind Found it!
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    • Posts: 119 Arc User
      edited April 2009
      Hidden - Lost City wrote: »
      nowhere in his guide do i see undine strike. thats backed up with him saying wiz/wiz and wiz/cleric fights are difficult due to high magic defense.

      its a great guide but i feel alot of it is outdated.

      may be true but in his video if you watch it he use undine strike quite very often....

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