Is Multi client allowed?

nodens wrote: »

Actually there is NO i repeat NO form of hacking involved if you want to run the client twice on one computer. And by no means do I see any reason why it would be just fine to set up two accounts to run on two computers but you would not be able to run the two accounts on one computer.

If you have a multi-user login on your windows vista computer for instance, with User 1 and User 2. Say you logged onto User 1 to play your very favorite game in the world, Perfect World. You play and you play and you play...then you realize your character is way too bloated with items that you

A. dont want to get rid of at the local merchant but
B. dont have room for all of them.

So you get to thinking, why not create another PW account just to create another character so you can set up shop and sell your hard earned items. And whenever you're done selling you can spend some time leveling that new character just to see how it is to play... I mean after all you have always wanted to test you hand with another type of character anyway at some point. And since the other Windows login belongs to your wife, you know she wont mind you setting up PW onto her computer and running it from her Login.

And with the user hot swapping that you can do with Vista, it just takes seconds to swap between your current game that you have been playing and the new one you just set up so you can check the status of their shop.

Now you tell me that there is something wrong with this...and please be quick with it because I need to know soon if i should just go ahead and quit playing the game that promotes inflicting needless sanctions on its customers.

What is it about the statement "one client per machine" do you not understand?

Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And its called a MAC address, each network card has a unique one and its included in all trafic sent from ur pc so the server knows who to respond to. So yea very easy to detect and not worth it. Make some friends in game :P

If you connect through a router, there is no way to detect if you are using 2 accounts on 2 computers or 2 accounts on the same computer.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

What is it about the statement "one client per machine" do you not understand?

OMGLAZERZ,

Oh you clever one...you got me there...I just DID NOT see any of the posts that said "one client per machine was not allowed"

I am SOOOO sorry for my ignorance and incompetence when it comes to reading. Now I see the light and rest assured OMGLAZERZ, I will never forget to read the several posts prior to mine again.

Now that that is out of the way, I will make one last comment on this subject and try to keep it to a minimal because the words quoted by Stickygreen just makes too much sense: "Don't argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

I have come to find that this forum is probably not the place for anyone of any intelligence to post. I state this not out of spite nor out of any other sort of emotions due to whatever sophomoric comments anyone else has made here. This has shown itself to be evident with these posts:

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

hey robot how do you think a human can do 1 hit, switch, hit with another char, then switch... all over?

oh maybe you're just 1 more "zhen" freak who plays AFK and GMs allow it because it's profitful.

Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »

doesnt amtter if you ahve 40 accounts on the same pc , its still no.

And its called a MAC address, each network card has a unique one and its included in all trafic sent from ur pc so the server knows who to respond to. So yea very easy to detect and not worth it. Make some friends in game :P

It has also become evident that not too many other people actually READ either esperanza111...and the knowledge level of the directors and moderators are limited at best. This too can be displayed within the very posts in this thread. I say this simply because I witnessed at least twice before my original post a different question being posed to the thread and NO ONE addressed the secondary question (which to some is considered a conversation). Instead I and the two others were met with the same responses that had been previously offered. Everyone ****-U-MEd that all of us just didn't understand that Dual Client was not allowed. Here are the examples:

esperanza111 wrote: »

People should read the rules before playing. It's true that some games allow you to dual client ( i had played on one that let you dual client). But in this case, PW informs you before you start creating a character not to do it. If you do not like to read, then you should have some common sense that Pw will not be excluded from that rule. Of course you could go to the forums read it or just post asking if you can or not.

PS nodens, you can play another account, just not in the same PC, get another and play your second account or just go to some other games.

andracil wrote: »

If you have two PWI screens open at any time, in ANY way, on ONE comp, it's illegal. NO exceptions.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

What is it about the statement "one client per machine" do you not understand?

Instead of addressing the secondary question of "Why not?" which stemmed from the primary question of "Is it allowed", we were pretty much(SEE NOTE) attacked as if we were EVIL for questioning the authority of the great gods of perfect world. It made no sense to us why it would be totally OK to run as many computers as you wanted with as many accounts as you wanted but it would be SOOOO wrong to have more than one account running on the same computer. And for that line of thinking we were chastised and the question ignored.


With that, I have just a few more things to say before I sign off; so, please bear with me.

To anyone who searches this forum for the same thing that we originally searched it for:
NO you may not run multi-clients on the same computer; but,
YES you may run them on multiple computers.
(bear in mind this does mean that if you leave a shop running on your account and vista automatically goes to the login screen...and your child jumps onto the computer to play PW on THEIR login and your child doesn't realize you are running the PW client as well, then YES they CAN and WILL suspend your account due to the User Agreement stating no multi clients on one computer)

Now if you found your answer but are still perplexed as to "Why not" just as some of us have been, I will try to save you some time and heart ache by explaining what I SPECULATE is the answer...

I think that the makers of PW are trying their best to keep a certain feel and Chi per say to the game. Things like bots and gold miners take away from the feel from the game and make some things harder for the average player. Since it would not be as prudent nor cost affective for most people to run several computers at the same time it would thus be unlikely for botters and miners to enter the game.
BUT if PW allowed you to have multiple account that could run on multiple machines, then with today's computers, it is not inconceivable to have a hundred windows logins running at the same time all with PW clients running. I SEE THE LIGHT NOW. I get the picture and YEAH I agree with the terms.

Being new to this game and others like it, this is the only logical answer that I could work out to mine and others' question of why not. I just wanted an answer and got attacked for it. For this I shall speak no good words about this forum from this point forward.


One last thing:

andracil wrote: »

If you have two PWI screens open at any time, in ANY way, on ONE comp, it's illegal. NO exceptions.

Unless you are actually changing the software or stealing the service of the PW servers, then there really isn't anything ILLEGAL about a breaking of a user agreement...check your law books andracil. I could run a million accounts on my single machine and there isn't a court in the world that would deem it "illegal". But PW would have every right to cancel every membership.

All of this has proven to me, and several others, the sophomoric and child-like demeanor of some of the posters as well as moderators in this forum. If I want to deal with a 10 year old I will talk to my daughter...I came here for mature and decent conversations about the game.

Sincerely

W. Jason Duncan
aka Nodens


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Why would anyone get offended just because people are saying it's not allowed. It's dumb saying one is getting attacked when that person is asking if it's allowed or not. There are different reasons why the game would say not to multi-accounts in one PC. e.g unbalance the game, they don't have enought capacity for alt accounts ( i dunno if that could be a logical reasonO.O), and such. As far as I know ( from another games I played) was to prevent bots to increase in the community. They wanted the population to be preserved by real players.

shnuggles wrote: »

Hello,
Additionally, running more than one client on one pc would require a modification to the client (or otherwise on the pc) which we state in the terms of service that action is not allowed.

I think it is possible to achieve 2 instances of the game (without any modification) within 1 computer with computing virtualization. Any kind of virtual computer software with hardware graphic compatible with directX could possibly do it. You may need a computer which is worth more than 2 PC to make the game playable.

You would need another hard-drive to even be able to multi client. ._.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You, are a moron. Seriously, you are.

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Funny, I read over the entire thread and didn't see anywhere that you or anyone else was 'attacked' so maybe the problem you have is that your being told your not allowed to run multiple clients on one machine and that has you miffed?

Now.. if you WANT to be attacked, just respond nastily to me, I will be happy to oblige you with an in-depth discussion of your likely parentage, what part of you was left on the sheets, and how much of an idiot I think you are for copping an attitude over nothing when people were simply discussing, and rather politely, the topic at hand.

~Saitada

And you wonder why I say we were "pretty much" attacked by asking questions.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

why don't you write a guide for people called: HOW TO USE BOT WITHOUT BEING CAUGHT

PS: now i have a better idea for your guide: HOW TO MAKE BOMBS AT HOME

Please, stay focus on the topic "Is Multi client allowed ?".

If you read my post carefully I was inferring on the slim difference between a real computer and a virtual computer since both can be considered computers (think about data centers).


P.S. don't ask for bot guide on the official forum of a game.

GM already said not allowed...discussion over.

eh too bad it's not allowed
i usually play with my and my boyfriend's char when he's not at home and i am really annoyed with constant relogs
and playing on 2 computers is inconvenient cause they're not possitioned to be comfortable for 1 person only
i feel like an octopus when i do it b:angry