Is Multi client allowed?

teilzweii

I heard that there are this multi client, that u can play perfect world twice. Is that allowed? I dont wanna get banned. If not i dont even think of it :O

aryannamage

As long as you play on two different computers (One client on each computer) it is allowed just do not open two clients on the same computer.

teilzweii

Thats what i ment. Same computer. A pity^^

teilzweii

I know some ppl (dont telling names)^^. Will they get banned?

shnuggles

Hello,

The best way to put it is, no you are not allowed to do it, yes we can tell, and yes punishment can encure from such actions. Dual-clienting (also known as dual-boxing) on one PC is against the Terms of Service and can be punishable if need be. Our players should be playing legitimately and that is what keeps the overall gaming experience better for the whole community that way. If you have any further questions in regards to this issue, we can help you via the ticketing system.

teilzweii

Ok. I hope all the guys will be punished *evil*^^. I saw lot of chars with names like "BuyHere" etc...hmmm...strange^^. thanks for information.

Maiya - Lost City

teilzweii wrote: »

Ok. I hope all the guys will be punished *evil*^^. I saw lot of chars with names like "BuyHere" etc...hmmm...strange^^. thanks for information.

Those types of characters can be mules, and set up on a separate computer. It doesn't necessarily mean they are dual clienting. Running two PW clients on one computer is against the ToS. Running two PW clients on two separate computers is not.

For instance, if I wanted to sell something and play at the same time. I'd play on my dekstop, then set up a shop on my laptop.

XxTORMENTAxx - Heavens Tear

Damn, I did not know that was illigal. Quick note to the GM'S/MOD's that I do not do that on PW. I have a bugger of time running one character at a time let alone 2.

Anyways back to why I am surprised. I wonder if I was able to run two paid acounts from the same PC from another MMORPG that I used to pay to play. I wonder if I was breaking rules back then and luckily did not get caught.

Any ideas about different rules from games that you pay to play.

Now that I think about it, it sounds a bit different since I am paying for 2 accounts so why would I not be able to run them both on the same PC even if it bogged the **** out of my PC.

Sanshiru - Lost City

i am wondering, how you are detecting if someone's using 2 pcs or the same.
aren't you only able to see the ip of the router if the fw blocks everything?
i might be wrong but just started my network training so i am kinda curious. ^^

XxTORMENTAxx - Heavens Tear

Sanshiru - Lost City wrote: »

i am wondering, how you are detecting if someone's using 2 pcs or the same.
aren't you only able to see the ip of the router if the fw blocks everything?
i might be wrong but just started my network training so i am kinda curious. ^^

If they told you their secrets then you could work around them. A magician never tells you how he/she does it. b:victory

I actually have no idea how they could tell.

swiftlikeafox

Sanshiru - Lost City wrote: »

i am wondering, how you are detecting if someone's using 2 pcs or the same.
aren't you only able to see the ip of the router if the fw blocks everything?
i might be wrong but just started my network training so i am kinda curious. ^^

That would actually be pretty simple, you're running a client, that client collects information about your computer, that information can be sent back to the server upon request..... even though your router may provide the same IP address for different computers, the IP address of the individual network cards is still going to be different.

devlinne

Hehehehe pls don't anyhow report.

I have a mule acct set up on my laptop selling/buying while i train my main on my desktop.

That aint against the rules is it?

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear

It's simple how they can track whether you run two clients off of 1 PC or not. Every computer has an internal IP address that can't be changed unless you wipe your hard drive and reinstall a different operating system. Thus making it impossible to bypass the tracking system they use.

Trenith - Heavens Tear

Demaulicus - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's simple how they can track whether you run two clients off of 1 PC or not. Every computer has an internal IP address that can't be changed unless you wipe your hard drive and reinstall a different operating system. Thus making it impossible to bypass the tracking system they use.

Unless your a crafty person that knows how to do so otherwise. b:shutup

Saitada - Sanctuary

Hardware detection. Each computer names it's hardware with a specific set of numbers/letters (Hardware ID) to identify it to itself. It's extremely unlikely that 2 computers on the same network will have identical hardware ID's. A simple query for processor ID/Vidcard ID and you have a nearly foolproof method to determine if someone is running two clients on one computer or two computers on one network (in my case we have three computers on one network).

On the off chance they have two vid cards and have one client running to one, and the other running to the second.. the Processor ID or even HD or DVD/CD drive ID's can be queried to identify the individual computer. Again.. it's not impossible to fool the query.. just normally not worth the effort to do so for an MMO just so you can run two clients.

~S

Seilen - Heavens Tear

You are probably talking about MAC address of network card and those are easy to change (~five mouse clicks needed thats all).

Lazyluna - Heavens Tear

How about we veer this away from the direction of "explaining how to dual-box". So the thread doesn't get closed.

Morayine - Sanctuary

And very curious to know why it is allowed to have 2 computers playing at same time, but not twice on one ???? I have neough play one so dont check me lol .b:bye
Whats the diffrence in reality or advantage wise?

I met a guy in game the other day, was in a group of 4 equal looking players, all following, and he said he was playing 4 at the same time omg, (he said else he got bored) how can any1 do that ?

Lazyluna - Heavens Tear

Morayine - Sanctuary wrote: »

And very curious to know why it is allowed to have 2 computers playing at same time, but not twice on one ???? I have neough play one so dont check me lol .b:bye
Whats the diffrence in reality or advantage wise?

I met a guy in game the other day, was in a group of 4 equal looking players, all following, and he said he was playing 4 at the same time omg, (he said else he got bored) how can any1 do that ?

You'd have to mess with the client to run two on one computer. This is not allowed, as it is a form of hacking. This can quickly lead to other unscrupulous actions.

LOL. I would question that guy. Either he has 3 bots with him (botting is also illegal) or he's dual-clienting. Or he is a genuine no-lifer. Or he is really obsessed with this game. XD

Stickygreen - Heavens Tear

ummmm what about running 1 client on one PC account, and another on the same PC, but a different user account? i posted this earlier in this thread and it seems like my post got deleted by someone, lol

andracil

If you have two PWI screens open at any time, in ANY way, on ONE comp, it's illegal. NO exceptions.

Stickygreen - Heavens Tear

so thats a no to me right?

aryannamage

Yes it is a no Stickygreen.

Stickygreen - Heavens Tear

thank you

shnuggles

Morayine - Sanctuary wrote: »

And very curious to know why it is allowed to have 2 computers playing at same time, but not twice on one ???? I have neough play one so dont check me lol .b:bye
Whats the diffrence in reality or advantage wise?

I met a guy in game the other day, was in a group of 4 equal looking players, all following, and he said he was playing 4 at the same time omg, (he said else he got bored) how can any1 do that ?

Hello,

If the names are very similar between all the characters or the names are gibberish looking, they may possibly be the gold farmers or just botters in general. We advise you screen shot the characters and submit them to us so we can conduct an investigation and see whether the user is legitimate or not. The more help we get from you as the player, the more of these gold farmers we can keep out of your community and games. Thus keeping inflation down, spam down, and and keeps your overall gaming experience better.

Additionally, running more than one client on one pc would require a modification to the client (or otherwise on the pc) which we state in the terms of service that action is not allowed. Best way to explain it would be that the majority of people doing this are either gold farmers, cheaters (bypassing the normal ebb and flow of the game client to make an advantage for themselves), or botters. All of the previously listed are against the Terms of Service that you all agreed to when creating the account. So basically, play fair and your community will be much more fun to play the games in.

nodens

Lazyluna - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You'd have to mess with the client to run two on one computer. This is not allowed, as it is a form of hacking. This can quickly lead to other unscrupulous actions.

Actually there is NO i repeat NO form of hacking involved if you want to run the client twice on one computer. And by no means do I see any reason why it would be just fine to set up two accounts to run on two computers but you would not be able to run the two accounts on one computer.

If you have a multi-user login on your windows vista computer for instance, with User 1 and User 2. Say you logged onto User 1 to play your very favorite game in the world, Perfect World. You play and you play and you play...then you realize your character is way too bloated with items that you

A. dont want to get rid of at the local merchant but
B. dont have room for all of them.

So you get to thinking, why not create another PW account just to create another character so you can set up shop and sell your hard earned items. And whenever you're done selling you can spend some time leveling that new character just to see how it is to play... I mean after all you have always wanted to test you hand with another type of character anyway at some point. And since the other Windows login belongs to your wife, you know she wont mind you setting up PW onto her computer and running it from her Login.

And with the user hot swapping that you can do with Vista, it just takes seconds to swap between your current game that you have been playing and the new one you just set up so you can check the status of their shop.

Now you tell me that there is something wrong with this...and please be quick with it because I need to know soon if i should just go ahead and quit playing the game that promotes inflicting needless sanctions on its customers.

Deathsscion - Sanctuary

I really want to know why people dig up old threads. Seems like a waste of time to me.

esperanza111

People should read the rules before playing. It's true that some games allow you to dual client ( i had played on one that let you dual client). But in this case, PW informs you before you start creating a character not to do it. If you do not like to read, then you should have some common sense that Pw will not be excluded from that rule. Of course you could go to the forums read it or just post asking if you can or not.

PS nodens, you can play another account, just not in the same PC, get another and play your second account or just go to some other games.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

I say NO to botters. they destroy every game. also GMs must keep their eyes open because I see lots of AFK squads with archers using bug to keep AOE on.

shroomkin

"Actually there is NO i repeat NO form of hacking involved if you want to run the client twice on one computer. And by no means do I see any reason why it would be just fine to set up two accounts to run on two computers but you would not be able to run the two accounts on one computer.-nodens-"
I agree with him there is no hacking involved and since the other user function is available on windows why not? All because the hardware is the same we can't run multiple clients? It would be of little use other than catshops so not a very efficient **** where other players would be at a disadvantage.
"Additionally, running more than one client on one pc would require a modification to the client (or otherwise on the pc) which we state in the terms of service that action is not allowed. Best way to explain it would be that the majority of people doing this are either gold farmers, cheaters (bypassing the normal ebb and flow of the game client to make an advantage for themselves), or botters. All of the previously listed are against the Terms of Service that you all agreed to when creating the account. So basically, play fair and your community will be much more fun to play the games in.-shnuggles-" It doesn't require a modification to the client so its not against the terms in that aspect and the people doing this couldn't all be gold farmers, botters or cheaters its using the resources at hand rather than getting another system. but what I understand this set up is ok http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/xpeld/43400001.jpg
and this one
http://www.snappygamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/wow-geek1.jpg
how is that fair?

Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear

doesnt amtter if you ahve 40 accounts on the same pc , its still no.

And its called a MAC address, each network card has a unique one and its included in all trafic sent from ur pc so the server knows who to respond to. So yea very easy to detect and not worth it. Make some friends in game :P