KOS System

also.. pk is not the way to train for TW.. TWing is the way to train for TW ... PK and TW are not equal.. there are towers and many other factors in a TW and the goal is to kill a crystal.. not another player

Well personally.. if I am white named.. grinding and someone else white named comes along and started grinding in my area.. I pk them.. and if they come back... I pk them again.. its not because i want to grief them.. its cause i wanna grind solo without anyone around.. now i hardly get the chance at that.. but still if i was in a pvp server i'd do that exact same thing ... you aren't altering your gaming experience.. you are making a wise decision and avoiding a situation in which you are going to get killed..

i mean thats like complaining about a world boss killing you over and over again cause you want to train at its feet.. hey i shouldn't have to alter my gaming experience cause the mobs i need to kill are around a world boss.. but he keeps killing me!!!

Devarsi,

You have basically just described grief playing, but you claim not to grief play.
Again, more derailment of the issues at hand. Killing worlds boss's aren't a topic needing to be discussed in this post.

Vanyadarknae - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Devarsi,

What you are asking is a player to alter their gaming experience, by moving on so they aren't harassed, pk'd, etc. I and everyone else have a right to be anywhere in the game and not be harassed, because we choose to become a white name. What gives anyone a right to expect a player to move on, because they don't want to be harassed? I understand becoming a white name you can be PK'd, no biggie, BUT harassment and constant killing is a big issue. We all have a right to play the game as anyone else does. What you are failing to realize here is pking people over and over is GRIEF PLAYING not player vs player game play. If I choose to be a white name and help people, oh lets say Krixxix, what gives anyone the right to harass me and pk me over and over, because I happen to be a white name? How about stop trying to justify wrong behavior, and lets do something to correct it.

Well these people do have a point about you guys going pvp mode on a pve server then crying when you get pked. Thats a bit much. ;o

But why would you need to go white-named to kill Krix? Am I missing something?

Chaotiic - Lost City wrote: »

Pking is part of the game sending a ticket to the gm about people pking is pretty dumb tbh. ESPECIALLY if u are in the pve server as you can simply go blue and they cant pk u. KSing you could maybe report but doubt it will get you any attention. Simply deal with it or go white and kill them then deal with the 12 hrs of pking hahahha

I totally agree with you. Before, I had a different opinion with oracle bosses but at the end you realize that you can come later for those bosses.

ok.....wow a lot of stuff here....ok btw proof that people do stalk and kill people over and over are my friends they talk about pking someone over and over...well look if you are white named i'm sorry to say but its your choice to either get pked over again or just move to another place or just do nothing you pressed the button gonna have to suffer the consquinces(sp). If you don't want to get ganged over and over then don't click it. btw you could always get revenge and ask guild mates (causes there are some guilds that will pk the guy who pked you the nice ones to ) to meet at a certian area meet the guy that pked you (you still being white named) make him follow you where the guild mate is and bam XD all dead... or you could train something on him/her much fun. Btw its a pve server why are you white named if you don't want to get pked? I mean pvp different....got not much else to say >_>b:shutup

Player vs player, PvP, or 'Player Killing' is type of multiplayer interaction within a game between two or more live participants. This is in contrast to games where players compete against computer controlled opponents, which is similarly referred to as player versus environment (PvE) or player versus monster (PvM); as such, the terms are most often used in games where both activities exist, particularly MMORPGs, MUDs and other computer role-playing games (CRPGs).

PvP can be broadly used to describe any game, or aspect of a game, where players compete against each other. This can include entire gaming genres, such as first-person shooters or real-time strategy games, or can be limited to an optional part of an otherwise PvE game. In computer role-playing games, PvP is often called player killing or PKing. PKing has taken on a negative tone as it is used almost entirely in cases where the combat was not consensual. The term PvP, and to a lesser extent PKing, has also been adopted in discussions about traditional role-playing games and live-action gaming, with approximately the same meaning.

Take a look at the definitions of key words used:

participants: one that participates

not consensual: non consent or agreement from one of the party members

Note: If consensual it takes an agreement on both parties to be participants in PVP game play. Relentless PKing is not a consensual agreement by one of the participants, meaning the one being griefed against is not a willing participant in PVP game play.

Im sorry but u guys are hilarious.

If you dont want to be pked DONT CLICK THE BUTTON. Please give me an example where it is a life and death situation and u must go white named to save your friends and family from irl death otherwise shut up. You dont have to go white and by going white u have decided to make urself a target so deal with it.

If u are already white and someone kills u then kills u again there is a little something in each town called a teleportmaster. This magical feature allows u to instantly travel to a new area without notifying others of your destination. Please explain how a pker can follow you around all day if u just teleport out?

Dragodarknae - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Tell you what, since everyone wishes to give their opinions on the matter I ask the GM to close this post and I will be contacting all of the Guild leaders IN GAME rather than have all of the bull here on the forums.

I didn't start this to get the general opinions on this matter, I asked the guild leaders to post a simple YES or NO, not a 4 post rant on how you think im stupid cause I went white named and am QQ'ing.

I have been pk'd by 3 or more individuals, followed for the better of 2 hours, pk'd more, then finally went to a safe zone and sat till I was blue again and lost 8 hours of lvling all because I wanted to have a guild pk'ing event and a select few decided to crash the party. Im not crying about this, IM DOING something about it, unlike those that sit back in WC and in support tickets qqing about it.

Very simple, adopt the KOS system and run the rpk'ers out..........anyways im done, have fun flaming and ruining another area of PWI.

Dude, what did you think was going to happen? Starting a thread about PKers or anything like that generates nothing but people posting their opinions. Hell, starting any thread on any subject in the general forums generates more opinion based commentary (the nice way of putting it) than anything else.


As for what happened: on a PvE server going white named is just asking for trouble because the PvPers there are simply STARVED for some PvP action.

Consider something for a moment: if they leveled to 6x, 7x or 8x on the server, and suddenly get bored to death of the never ending grind, do you really expect them to start over on another server after quite possibly investing a lot of time, effort and possibly money on their toon? The higher their toon, the more invested, the harder it becomes to say "I'll just start over at the bottom" just to PvP. Remember that they are on or near the top on the server they are on; they have friends there, they are probably guilded etc. Unlike WoW which has PvP outlets for the PvE servers, this game has what? TWs? Random players going white-named randomly?

You cannot possibly expect to hold a "PK event" and not expect players to attend uninvited.


White names on a PvE server = feeding frenzy

ummm.. vanya.. how on earth is holding a grind spot griefing? if you want it so bad come kill me to get me out of it.. i'm not hunting you down to kill you repeatedly so you can't do anything

also i said nothing about killing world bosses... what i wrote was about world bosses killing you when you are grinding on mobs around them .. cause by your definition that world boss is griefing you because you aren't smart enough to avoid the thing that keeps killing you ..

i guess that can be considered altering your play style though... cause you actually have to play smart to avoid being killed

and again with respect to the TW training thing.. no you don't have to kill a buncha players to get to the towers.. the towers are along the way and the main goal of your attack is to keep your catapult pullers alive .. there is a lot different strategy that needs to be taken and learning pk 1 on 1 skills is not that useful.. cause when you have an 80 vs 80... and you pick primary targets and focus on them... they are gonna die pretty quickly regardless of how you go about it..

how else do you hold a grinding spot vanya? o.O if you can hold a spot for yourself or your squad without kicking other people who come out of it.. well you must be very persuasive

In case these posts are applicable:

"There is a difference between KSing one or two mobs, and camping the spawn for hours on end while PKing anyone you see fit. Our GMs never issue bans on a whim. If you got a ban, chances are there are concrete reasons behind it."

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=223741

"GM's do not enforce the rules based on levels of whining.

There's a difference between taking a penny out of the tip jar, and robbing the register.

There's a difference between KSing (Kill Stealing) a spawn once, and camping a spawn for hours in order to ensure that no one else can finish their quests."
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=224231&page=6

I was reading this thread up to the second page where the "honor of pk server thing" and I couldnt stop Laughing my god damn **** off lololololol.

I have played bith servers and to my surprise PVP servers are more orgnized PK wise than PVE server really its too orgnized even.

I joined thinking hell yeah am gonna pk every white name I see (PVE server rules) but then I noticed that there are more on the line if I did that.

so if you want orgnized pk a place where fun is taken to maxmimum role a PVP server its even more comfortable to play in than in a PVE server.