Squad Members Without Charms

if they dont have charms they should be using potions. i also get aggravated when they are meditating after evry 3 kills. i would be better going solo at that rate.

i dont use charms, but instead the apoth items that reguvenate hp/mp

Most people don't realise this but actually buying the charm packs with ingame money instead of using pots all the time is the cheaper option if you don't have real money to spend. I currently play a cleric and while I used to pot up to a certain time I am now always on goldcharms. I have never paid more then 300k ingame for it yet and 900,000 MP? Do the maths guys with the pots - charmpacks it is cheaper. I don't need the HP charms at this point as I can always heal myself. b:pleased

the event jiaozi items have made it extremely cheap! i seen them going for 100-200 coin each. no one better be meditating now, LOL

So basically you're saying that it's either dumb or inconsiderate to go grinding without a charm... hmm...
Yea, i see your point, its not like it's expensive at all to upgrade gears or skills, and God knows players of your caliber shouldn't have to put up with the likes of noob clerics who may have decided to spend money upgrading their res or their 1 hour buffs, or those weak BMs that actually invest on their draw aggro skill on the off chance it might actually be useful when running an instance. And please don't get me started on those cheap barbs, i mean, it's not like they have to deal with repair bills coming close to 100k a day.
You see, it's really easy to make a post trying to look all pro by complaining about something that you know it's difficult for some players to do, most of all when you know enough trolls will jump in your bandwagon to make it hard for someone to express an oposing view. FYI Most people make most of their coins grinding, many like to spend as little as possible while doing so, sometimes that even includes people who use the cash shop.
Guess what? I can do it too.

I'm a veno. I don't need charms to grind at all cuz nature's grace, metabollic boost and soul transfussion can keep me going forever. What annoys me is people with a charm, they're so much worse than people who meditate...
the ones wearing MP charms take forever to kill a mob cuz they're too afraid their charms will tick to actually use their skills, and the ones with HP hieros spend all of their time hiding behind my pet. QQ poor me, i'm so pro...

My point is a lot of players get most of their income from grinding, to put some of them down cuz they may ocasionally take a break to meditate is arrogant, it shows you don't sympathize with people who may be broke ingame. Yes I'm sure no one else posting in this thread has ever ran out of coin.

Surfer_Rosa - Sanctuary wrote: »

So basically you're saying that it's either dumb or inconsiderate to go grinding without a charm... hmm...
Yea, i see your point, its not like it's expensive at all to upgrade gears or skills, and God knows players of your caliber shouldn't have to put up with the likes of noob clerics who may have decided to spend money upgrading their res or their 1 hour buffs, or those weak BMs that actually invest on their draw aggro skill on the off chance it might actually be useful when running an instance. And please don't get me started on those cheap barbs, i mean, it's not like they have to deal with repair bills coming close to 100k a day.
You see, it's really easy to make a post trying to look all pro by complaining about something that you know it's difficult for some players to do, most of all when you know enough trolls will jump in your bandwagon to make it hard for someone to express an oposing view. FYI Most people make most of their coins grinding, many like to spend as little as possible while doing so, sometimes that even includes people who use the cash shop.
Guess what? I can do it too.

Barbs at level 30 have 100k repairs? Really.

Ownt - Lost City wrote: »

Barbs at level 30 have 100k repairs? Really.

They probably do if they're making enough to buy charms at that level.

Ownt - Lost City wrote: »

I had over 80k at level 30 on my barb. (cost a a bronze charm)

Or that's 80 cents.

Wow! 80k! I'm so proven wrong... cuz we all know you save as much buying bronze charms as you do buying gold. What was i thinking? Guess i was just hustled by all those barbs asking me to chip in for repairs at the end of runs...

I'm so sorry i couldn't adequately convey my point in the OPs lowbie terms, i mean it's not like thread is titled "Squad Members Without Charms" (BTW loving all those capital letters!) how could i miss the idea that this could all be solved by discussing barbs' repair bills. You're so right! They're the money making class! In fact i'm going to roll a barb just now so i can fund my veno. Thank you so much for proving to me the error of my ways. Barbs are rich and people who grind without charms are inconsiderate noobs. QQ i'm so pro i'm even noble.

All these posts are rediculously biased.

Here is the situation the common player finds themselves in:


Soloing. Knowing they dont have a charm or potions they solo/quest or whatever they may do by themselves.


Suddenly, some guy wants the same monsters, perhaps for the same quest? They party because it is mutually beneficial because they dont have to compete for monsters.


Suddenly, a third guy appears, joins the party for the same reason.


During long quests such as the quests with the rediculous drop rate on that 1 lone item needing to be collected - the person(s) who intended to solo and rest because they knew they didn't have potions, nevermind a charm, now rest!



It's soo easy to get caught up with your biased views on how everyone should play.


Have you guys ever stopped to realize that some of the people who choose to solo, solo because they can rest and not affect anyone else?


Luckily, I can afford to use a charm - pretty much needed HP-wise. But when I party people out of the blue (hard to do in barren areas anyways...) without them asking for one - I have to be mindful that they are solo'ing a quest for a reason.

If you don't want to party with them then don't. No one's forcing you to party with people without charms.

And the cheaper out of pots and charms depends on the level of the pot and charm.

angellicdeity wrote: »

All these posts are rediculously biased.

Here is the situation the common player finds themselves in:


Soloing. Knowing they dont have a charm or potions they solo/quest or whatever they may do by themselves.


Suddenly, some guy wants the same monsters, perhaps for the same quest? They party because it is mutually beneficial because they dont have to compete for monsters.


Suddenly, a third guy appears, joins the party for the same reason.


During long quests such as the quests with the rediculous drop rate on that 1 lone item needing to be collected - the person(s) who intended to solo and rest because they knew they didn't have potions, nevermind a charm, now rest!



It's soo easy to get caught up with your biased views on how everyone should play.


Have you guys ever stopped to realize that some of the people who choose to solo, solo because they can rest and not affect anyone else?


Luckily, I can afford to use a charm - pretty much needed HP-wise. But when I party people out of the blue (hard to do in barren areas anyways...) without them asking for one - I have to be mindful that they are solo'ing a quest for a reason.

I don't think you read all the posts.

Finally, common sense seems to have taken over this thread. I don't think at lvl 30 it even makes much sense to use a charm... but that's personal opinion. You can't ask 1st time players to know any better, as they're still at the process of discovering the game. As for more seasoned people they won't stick around long... Any reasonably experienced player will make it past 30 in under a week unless holding themselves back for whatever reason (leveling at the same pace as a group of friends, etc) or clocking few play hours. I think there were people at 30 already the second day the new servers opened. It wouldn't be worth it to me to spend money on any kind of charms unless i was playing a wizzy or a cleric.

But showing what it seemed to me to be contempt for people who just have diferent playing styles was what incensed me when i read this thread. I'm not saying we should all hold hands and play nice, but at least we should treat each other with the courtesy one extends to colleagues.

Surfer_Rosa - Sanctuary wrote: »

So basically you're saying that it's either dumb or inconsiderate to go grinding without a charm... hmm...
Yea, i see your point, its not like it's expensive at all to upgrade gears or skills, and God knows players of your caliber shouldn't have to put up with the likes of noob clerics who may have decided to spend money upgrading their res or their 1 hour buffs, or those weak BMs that actually invest on their draw aggro skill on the off chance it might actually be useful when running an instance. And please don't get me started on those cheap barbs, i mean, it's not like they have to deal with repair bills coming close to 100k a day.
You see, it's really easy to make a post trying to look all pro by complaining about something that you know it's difficult for some players to do, most of all when you know enough trolls will jump in your bandwagon to make it hard for someone to express an oposing view. FYI Most people make most of their coins grinding, many like to spend as little as possible while doing so, sometimes that even includes people who use the cash shop.
Guess what? I can do it too.

I b:heart you Rosa!



To OP..
i dunno how everyone else plays this game, but i never used a charm hp or mp on any of my characters. Never needed really, just spent my money on great gears, instead of gold, i hardly take dmg because of it and its very very very very rare that i ever die..3 times in 60 lvls? my guess (this goes for my wiz and cleric as well, my veno dont count as much..they dont need pots or charms really) I solo mostly all the time and usually decline any zhen or TT requests.
If using charms is the way you play, thats great... just dont act like its the only way.

I do not use charms because they are too expensive and not worth it. + I would burn through them helping people from time to time when I did not want to lose them. I just use pots I pick up or the ones I make as An Apothecary for the most part but I may have to med every now and then to save money.

However, if someone NEEDED to med a lot I would just take that time to let my own MP/HP recharge I would only be annoyed if they did not warn in advance that they would need frequent time outs so I do not get caught without help.