Do you like razor feathers?

Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
edited March 2009 in Cleric
Just a question of curiosity, do you like razor feathers?

Alot of people seem to ignore that skills although I love it to bits, has 7.6 meter range and does about 50% more damage than plume shot (only level 9)

Not super epic but, 8 meter AoE at level 10 is nice, especially the whole No Chi/Spark and lowish cooldown

Do you use razor feathers? b:bye
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I personally love it, good for FB's and good for grinding.
    My is only lv7 now but works fine on aoe grinding wood mobs.
    That skill rules ^_^
    b:dirty
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I need 2 more ivls for it ( well technically 1ivl and 32.5%xp)

    But I wanted to know is it realy that good?
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I need 2 more ivls for it ( well technically 1ivl and 32.5%xp)

    But I wanted to know is it realy that good?
    For the first 50lvs its not very useful really.
    After that, you end up using it often, well in my case i did.
    b:dirty
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited March 2009
    I agree with Nelae, I had gotten it early on, but it didn't do anything but get me in trouble. After I hit level 50, someone told me that I should start playing with that. I have it at level 4 now and it already does more damage on one mob than plume shot, and about equal damage on multiple mobs. Below 50 concentrate on Plume shot, Great Cyclone, and Wield Thunder. After 50, this is a must have.
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  • Hecatrice - Heavens Tear
    Hecatrice - Heavens Tear Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I will agree with my fellow clerics, Razor Feathers is a good aoe skill while grinding. I use it a lot, but upgrade it when you are of a higher lvl. Now some other skills have priority.

    Take care and have fun in game! :)))
  • Isaphet - Heavens Tear
    Isaphet - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I must say I do actually use this a lot too, even though I only have it at level 1 at the moment. Its on my to do list, but so is just about every other spell right now. Great spell but its up to your judgement when to level it as you have a lot of other great spells competing for that spirit too.
  • Blessing - Heavens Tear
    Blessing - Heavens Tear Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Chi-less + Physical damage AoE. What's not to love about it?
  • Waittilli - Lost City
    Waittilli - Lost City Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    When do you start grinding on mobs you aoe?

    What level and what mobs?

    Thanks


    I find whirlwind/Plume better for now at 51.
  • Blessing - Heavens Tear
    Blessing - Heavens Tear Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    When do you start grinding on mobs you aoe?

    What level and what mobs?

    Thanks


    I find whirlwind/Plume better for now at 51.

    at like lvl 60 on the petalis mobs south of Dreaming Cloud. You'll find a bunch of them on the very southern border of the map.
  • Wiku - Sanctuary
    Wiku - Sanctuary Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    i know im like a really low lv but i personally dont use it very often, i like to stick with plume shot....
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    maxed it 6x. excellent skill. i had no reason to have it earlier, aoe grinding with such a low hp pool and little power to back it up isn't wise. and, aoe grinding with it makes grind more interesting than 1:1 grind, so it doesn't always bore the hell out of you.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    When do you start grinding on mobs you aoe?

    What level and what mobs?

    Thanks


    I find whirlwind/Plume better for now at 51.
    Well at lv60 when you get your hourly quests is a good time to start.
    Now i use it on Hands of Terrandes. And when you have spark for tempest its 3 shot kill ^_^.
    b:dirty
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Nelae = good cleric take her advice

    The hourly quest is Justice quest btw you get at justice envoy in tusktown
    We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    hourly quest is a waste of time and coin. once an hour you get to spend more coin then you would on a daily crazy stone for less than 1/4 of the exp. what's good about it? hell, i don't know. maybe if you're so desperate for exp that you would waste that much coin an hour to kill a handful of mobs, then it might be worth it. even then, it's it's debatable on whether it's worth it or not.

    you could just as easily as buy an exp scroll for an hour and make 5-10x as much as the justice quest has to offer.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Em... Ok, I just got razor feathers and want to know does it atack monsters that are alredy atacking you or all monsters in the range (I read ewerithing about the skill and I gues im still confusedb:sweatb:puzzled)

    Help me please!?

    tnx
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Em... Ok, I just got razor feathers and want to know does it atack monsters that are alredy atacking you or all monsters in the range (I read ewerithing about the skill and I gues im still confusedb:sweatb:puzzled)

    Help me please!?

    tnx

    it doesn't specifically attack monsters that are already hitting you, it hits all the monsters within range of your target. at level 1, the range is quite small, making it almost unnoticeable. at higher levels, it becomes much more useful, and has a noticeably increased range.

    you don't need it right now. 1 level is enough until you get into the 60s.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Oh, ok thnx i atacked a monster and didnt notice that there was another one by it I mean realy by it like almost ''in'' it and then they were both hit.

    It saiy it has a 4.4 meter radious but there were monsters in the ''4.4 m'' radious and they werent hit .I dont know maybe I dont exactly know how much 1 meter in the game is.
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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  • _WillFire_ - Sanctuary
    _WillFire_ - Sanctuary Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    hourly quest is a waste of time and coin. once an hour you get to spend more coin then you would on a daily crazy stone for less than 1/4 of the exp.

    Er...no. Crazy stone at your level costs 28k+ while Justice quest costs less. That being said Crazy stone gives a lot of xp in one shot.
    what's good about it? hell, i don't know. maybe if you're so desperate for exp that you would waste that much coin an hour to kill a handful of mobs, then it might be worth it.

    Consider this:
    1) You are going to grind the mobs anyway.
    2) You get coin and drops worth far more than you spent on the quest.
    3) You get xp on top of what you got grinding the mobs + rep.
    4) If you are smart you will pick mobs that have a "one man army" quest as well...more rep and cele frags

    What's not to like?
    even then, it's it's debatable on whether it's worth it or not.

    you could just as easily as buy an exp scroll for an hour and make 5-10x as much as the justice quest has to offer.

    Why not do both? Then you get twice the xp for the mobs you were going to grind anyways PLUS the extra xp for the quest. You get the coins and the drops that are worth 3 to 4 times more what you paid for the quest. Plus rep.

    Oh...and not everyone can buy an xp scroll. THAT is expensive.
    Mark 12:29-37
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Er...no. Crazy stone at your level costs 28k+ while Justice quest costs less. That being said Crazy stone gives a lot of xp in one shot.
    false. it cost 22k for my crazy stone which gives over 100k exp. a justice quest my level cost at least 30k and gives ~30k exp. not only that, but it can only be done once an hour and cost too damn much. i could buy a exp scroll and grind for an hour for 40k and make more than 5x as much as the justice quest offers.
    Consider this:
    1) You are going to grind the mobs anyway.
    2) You get coin and drops worth far more than you spent on the quest.
    3) You get xp on top of what you got grinding the mobs + rep.
    4) If you are smart you will pick mobs that have a "one man army" quest as well...more rep and cele frags

    What's not to like?
    1. so?
    2. less profit. and you kill like ~100 mobs for the quest. that takes like 20 minutes.
    3. the rep is like, 1.
    4. that isn't always an option.
    Why not do both? Then you get twice the xp for the mobs you were going to grind anyways PLUS the extra xp for the quest. You get the coins and the drops that are worth 3 to 4 times more what you paid for the quest. Plus rep.
    exp scroll is +50%. the quest would be finished before you got halfway through your scroll, so unless you wanted to stay and grind the same awful mob choices they offer, have fun. and, buying both would be 60k. in an hour at your level you might bring in ~100k an hour. good luck buying that pretty mold armor.
    Oh...and not everyone can buy an xp scroll. THAT is expensive.
    scroll gives you more exp per coin. unless you disconnect in the first 5 minutes and lose internet for the next hour, you're making more this way.
  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    How can an aoe attack be good for a cleric? If it's aoe it means that it attracts many mobs at once, how can you survive something like that, not to mention it's slow casting time. Unless you have a tank with you to hold agro then I don't see how this skill would be of any use while grinding, it would only cause me trouble, unless I hit one mob at the time, then it could be good enough.
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    How can an aoe attack be good for a cleric? If it's aoe it means that it attracts many mobs at once, how can you survive something like that, not to mention it's slow casting time. Unless you have a tank with you to hold agro then I don't see how this skill would be of any use while grinding, it would only cause me trouble, unless I hit one mob at the time, then it could be good enough.

    1. hit mob 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 with plume shot.
    2. iron heart a few times, then razor feather(dealing about 2x as much as plume shot)
    3. heal
    4. ???
    5. profit
  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    1. hit mob 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 with plume shot.
    2. iron heart a few times, then razor feather(dealing about 2x as much as plume shot)
    3. heal
    4. ???
    5. profit

    Nice theory, i can't imagine surviving 5 mobs hitting me at once and me able to survive enough to make ironheart catch with the dmg. Wich also requires that I don't get interupted and that I also have lots of hp. Lol lvl 60 Clerics have about 1600 hp. How can they survive such a gang bang?

    I have 1600 hp on my 48 (but that's another story).
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    poison mobs. i can take 8 poison mobs(given i go to the right spot). poison doesn't interrupt channeling.

    hit them with either plume shot or great cyclone. after the first 4, i heal myself once, then hit the rest. i then run a little, heal again, put them in a group, then purify.

    using razor feather(assuming it's maxed), will do a great deal more damage than plume shot, also hitting all 8 mobs in front of you. the cooldown has its effect now, drop another heal, purify, wait.

    razor feather again, heal, purify. maybe, just maybe, you've gotten enough sparks for tempest, which then you could finish the 2-3 hit mobs all with 1 final blow, then finish with a purify. or simply continue the above steps. it works.
  • _WillFire_ - Sanctuary
    _WillFire_ - Sanctuary Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    false. it cost 22k for my crazy stone which gives over 100k exp. a justice quest my level cost at least 30k and gives ~30k exp.

    And crazy stone is once per day...shall we divide that 100k into 24 hours?

    Justice quest tab at 74th level costs ~16k
    not only that, but it can only be done once an hour and cost too damn much. i could buy a exp scroll and grind for an hour for 40k and make more than 5x as much as the justice quest offers.

    1. so?
    2. less profit. and you kill like ~100 mobs for the quest. that takes like 20 minutes.

    It's 70 mobs and apparently you have difficulty with time and logic.
    Oh and yeah it is per hour. During that hour you get:
    xp for the mobs
    *xp for the quest
    drops
    coin

    I don't know about you chuckles but I average 40-60k on top of what I spent on the quest.

    Oh...lets say that the quest *only* gave you 20k xp ( on top of what you get for the mobs ) per hour. Let's say you do them for 8 hours. Hey...lets get crazy and say that you do them for 24 hours straight. That's 480k xp on top of what you would have gotten simply grinding. Compare that with your crazy stone.
    3. the rep is like, 1.
    4. that isn't always an option.

    The rep is like, 2 and if you pick mobs for your justice quests that match the one man army quests then it's always an option.
    exp scroll is +50%. the quest would be finished before you got halfway through your scroll, so unless you wanted to stay and grind the same awful mob choices they offer, have fun.

    Orchid Petalii's are hardly an aweful mob choice ( wood and poisoning ) for a cleric. And I'll repeat once again for you since you seem to be slow...If you are going to grind anyways you might as well get the extra xp from the quest...Right?
    and, buying both would be 60k. in an hour at your level you might bring in ~100k an hour. good luck buying that pretty mold armor.

    You're the one going on about xp scrolls. I merely mentioned that you can do the xp scroll and quest WHILE YOU ARE GRINDING ANYWAY. Gah...some peoples children.
    scroll gives you more exp per coin. unless you disconnect in the first 5 minutes and lose internet for the next hour, you're making more this way.

    Otay dude.
    Mark 12:29-37
    _WillFire_ 8x Combat Medic
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    And crazy stone is once per day...shall we divide that 100k into 24 hours?
    105k for spending 10 minutes of my life doing nothing or spending an hour waiting around after spending 20 minutes killing a handful of mobs. this is definitely a hard one. i may need some time.
    Justice quest tab at 74th level costs ~16k
    really? i wouldn't know. i don't waste my coin on them.
    It's 70 mobs and apparently you have difficulty with time and logic.
    Oh and yeah it is per hour. During that hour you get:
    xp for the mobs
    *xp for the quest
    drops
    coin
    during the hour you're on scroll, you get:
    xp from the hundreds of mobs you'll be killing, not those amazing 70 mobs you're killing.
    drops
    coin

    -20k exp +16k coin.
    I don't know about you chuckles but I average 40-60k on top of what I spent on the quest.
    i don't know about you sparky, but i average 200k if i actually convince myself to grind for an hour.
    Oh...lets say that the quest *only* gave you 20k xp ( on top of what you get for the mobs ) per hour. Let's say you do them for 8 hours. Hey...lets get crazy and say that you do them for 24 hours straight. That's 480k xp on top of what you would have gotten simply grinding. Compare that with your crazy stone.
    10 minutes for 100k exp or 24 hours for 600~700k exp. i'll take my chances with the crazy stone.
    The rep is like, 2 and if you pick mobs for your justice quests that match the one man army quests then it's always an option.
    you could, i never said you couldn't.
    Orchid Petalii's are hardly an aweful mob choice ( wood and poisoning ) for a cleric. And I'll repeat once again for you since you seem to be slow...If you are going to grind anyways you might as well get the extra xp from the quest...Right?
    i've never seen the mob choices for 7x, all i remember is all metal mobs when i tried it 6x. spend 20 minutes killing the same horrible mob for even worse exp., an hour later.
    You're the one going on about xp scrolls. I merely mentioned that you can do the xp scroll and quest WHILE YOU ARE GRINDING ANYWAY. Gah...some peoples children.
    what about my children?
  • SATII - Lost City
    SATII - Lost City Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Nice theory, i can't imagine surviving 5 mobs hitting me at once and me able to survive enough to make ironheart catch with the dmg. Wich also requires that I don't get interupted and that I also have lots of hp. Lol lvl 60 Clerics have about 1600 hp. How can they survive such a gang bang?

    I have 1600 hp on my 48 (but that's another story).
    Not THAT hard to survive 5 mobs attacking you at once. I've survived plenty of 6x monsters in 5mob gang bangs that cast magic attacks. It's not hard to survive w/o a hiero, but it is dam annoying when you get interrupted on any skill but IB and GC.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    @Mikel_oru, lv60+ mobs are mostly magical, with right combo you can take up to 5 or if you feel lucky *no interrupts* take more.
    And having a HP pot helps too xD.

    About hourly quests.
    -dont have cash to buy exp scrolls
    -dont have time to grind all day so that 20k exp bonus is allot + mob exp its around 45kexp in less then 60min for me, my cs gives 51k and i can do it only once per day.
    -dont need nice and shiny armor, but i make more then i spend on my hourly + repair, and if you have any trade skills coins arnt any kind of a problem really.

    But heck your choice, 3 hourly quests are around 100kexp (60k exp of quest + lill more over 49k exp of mobs)
    b:dirty
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I do noxtouch for my justice quests even tho they don't have a one man army,

    I kill them really really fast and easy and well I don't mind chatting with my friends and clicking on 1 macro now and then lol, I'm a slacker
    We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
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  • Sylvae - Sanctuary
    Sylvae - Sanctuary Posts: 1,018 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Clerics actually level faster than any other class by using their poison mob AoE grinding. As a full int, I started off killing petali in lost village for my xp. Started at 12 at a time, but then went to 18-20 once I got more rank gear and put lvl 4 health gems in all my gear. High Purify and Tempest helped out in making it go faster and be cheaper. It could actually be done without even using a charm, only costs around 6k a run.

    Best part is, it was right next to the one man army quest for killing them. So I was gaining about 12 rep an hour while getting massive xp and tons of money. More than paid for the xp scrolls I was using by a large margin.

    Skills to use are of course your buffs, lvl 5 or higher purify, base wings with lvl 10 flight mastery or ones modded to +2 speed, and a high lvl in razor feathers. Having a high lvl in Tempest helps, but will take more practice with guardian angels to get the spell orders right. For a more thorough guide, ask a Legendary member to copy and paste the guide I posted on their website. New computer so I don't have it anymore.
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Clerics actually level faster than any other class by using their poison mob AoE grinding. As a full int, I started off killing petali in lost village for my xp. Started at 12 at a time, but then went to 18-20 once I got more rank gear and put lvl 4 health gems in all my gear. High Purify and Tempest helped out in making it go faster and be cheaper. It could actually be done without even using a charm, only costs around 6k a run.

    Best part is, it was right next to the one man army quest for killing them. So I was gaining about 12 rep an hour while getting massive xp and tons of money. More than paid for the xp scrolls I was using by a large margin.

    Skills to use are of course your buffs, lvl 5 or higher purify, base wings with lvl 10 flight mastery or ones modded to +2 speed, and a high lvl in razor feathers. Having a high lvl in Tempest helps, but will take more practice with guardian angels to get the spell orders right. For a more thorough guide, ask a Legendary member to copy and paste the guide I posted on their website. New computer so I don't have it anymore.

    where? and, out of curiosity(12 mobs poisoning at once would stack over 1k in a second), how?