A Veno's Headache
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I've heard from quite a few people on the Sanctuary server, and Lost City, that Sanctuary is the cheapest out of all three servers. Lol. I just find that kind of amusing. Isn't cheaper, better? For the consumers at least. Although the economy was screwed with the gold scare.0
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I'm a wizard, what problems can any veno possibly have?0
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tbh OP you should look at all the cons on the other classes before you go making a thread about how hard yours is. every class has its own problems. DEAL WITH THEMb:shutupb:laugh0
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Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »Oh yea, I forgot about SP. You can't buy those unless you mass scarlet fruits. +1 thing to worry about if you're changing weapons as a BM. Hmm...veno decisions starting to look not so annoying.....
Most people have tons of spirit leftover.
I got over 7m spirit, a mage friend of mine got 12m.
Spirit wont be a problem at higher lvls.
Aside from getting 1 shot by your class at 9x, having everyone with no veno experience whine about us and never getting into a zhen-aoe grind squad, not many.Sejhia - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'm a wizard, what problems can any veno possibly have?
I'm so glad harshlands is coming, I'm rerolling to another class.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
^^ Made by Saitada ^^
Dieho: I win 15 on 1, I roll all of your guild to sz all by myself !
Lessie: Proof?
Dieho: I dont have any, but my word is more than enough.
Lessie: Well I won 33 on 1 the other day
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Lessie - Lost City wrote: »
Aside from getting 1 shot by your class at 9x, having everyone with no veno experience whine about us and never getting into a zhen-aoe grind squad, not many.
I'm so glad harshlands is coming, I'm rerolling to another class.
you can get grind squads as a veno easy if you have water pet (and you can catch lvl 80 ones)
tbh zhenning was never that great, water grind partys ftw0 -
Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »you can get grind squads as a veno easy if you have water pet (and you can catch lvl 80 ones)
tbh zhenning was never that great, water grind partys ftw
Have you played veno?
When we ask for aoe party, we can only go if like NOONE ELSE in everyone's guild/friend list can go.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
^^ Made by Saitada ^^
Dieho: I win 15 on 1, I roll all of your guild to sz all by myself !
Lessie: Proof?
Dieho: I dont have any, but my word is more than enough.
Lessie: Well I won 33 on 1 the other day
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Venos are OP.
I can't beat them in a dual.
Damn Bramble hood b:surrender
[This is a sarcastic post]Back.0 -
Now that I have a phoenix, I'll get it to my level then test it out.Main characters
Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
Sage Barbarian Malego - 910 -
Lessie - Lost City wrote: »Have you played veno?
When we ask for aoe party, we can only go if like NOONE ELSE in everyone's guild/friend list can go.
did i say AOE PARTY? no i said water grind party, NEVER have i seen a water aoe party for xp0 -
Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »did i say AOE PARTY? no i said water grind party, NEVER have i seen a water aoe party for xp
All right.
We cant go in zhen
We cant go in aoe parties.
But we can go in .... water grind parties !!!
That totally makes up for soloing from lvl 1 to 8x while everyone else does aoe at 4x and zhen since 6x.
lmao
Looks like someone's never played veno, I asked already and you dint answer.
Arent you the one who made 2 different topics crying about veno and both got locked after all your claims were proven wrong? I'm sure I remember your name from a QQ thread.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
^^ Made by Saitada ^^
Dieho: I win 15 on 1, I roll all of your guild to sz all by myself !
Lessie: Proof?
Dieho: I dont have any, but my word is more than enough.
Lessie: Well I won 33 on 1 the other day
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Lessie - Lost City wrote: »All right.
We cant go in zhen
We cant go in aoe parties.
But we can go in .... water grind parties !!!
That totally makes up for soloing from lvl 1 to 8x while everyone else does aoe at 4x and zhen since 6x.
lmao
Looks like someone's never played veno, I asked already and you dint answer.
Arent you the one who made 2 different topics crying about veno and both got locked after all your claims were proven wrong? I'm sure I remember your name from a QQ thread.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
not all mages aoe/zhen
same with all the other classes
cerics are the only ones who can aoe grind (solo)0 -
Lessie - Lost City wrote: »Most people have tons of spirit leftover.
I got over 7m spirit, a mage friend of mine got 12m.
Spirit wont be a problem at higher lvls.
Aside from getting 1 shot by your class at 9x, having everyone with no veno experience whine about us and never getting into a zhen-aoe grind squad, not many.
I'm so glad harshlands is coming, I'm rerolling to another class.
gime ur account
i hate leveling chars T_T
it could just be because i am a mage mainly0 -
AndromedaB - Sanctuary wrote: »uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
not all mages aoe/zhen
same with all the other classes
cerics are the only ones who can aoe grind (solo)
uhhhhhhh BMs are the best solo aoe grinders.
And at that Lessie, venos can zhen by pulling. I've seen many venos do it and it's not that bad unless they lag a lot or something.0 -
tatakairyu wrote: »uhhhhhhh BMs are the best solo aoe grinders.
And at that Lessie, venos can zhen by pulling. I've seen many venos do it and it's not that bad unless they lag a lot or something.
Well lucky veno, we can zhen but we are the last choice.AndromedaB - Sanctuary wrote: »uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
not all mages aoe/zhen
same with all the other classes
cerics are the only ones who can aoe grind (solo)
They can(<<< keyword) it's an option, tired of soloing and fbs? go do some normal aoe grind or get a zhen set up.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
^^ Made by Saitada ^^
Dieho: I win 15 on 1, I roll all of your guild to sz all by myself !
Lessie: Proof?
Dieho: I dont have any, but my word is more than enough.
Lessie: Well I won 33 on 1 the other day
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Lessie - Lost City wrote: »All right.
We cant go in zhen
We cant go in aoe parties.
But we can go in .... water grind parties !!!
That totally makes up for soloing from lvl 1 to 8x while everyone else does aoe at 4x and zhen since 6x.
lmao
Looks like someone's never played veno, I asked already and you dint answer.
Arent you the one who made 2 different topics crying about veno and both got locked after all your claims were proven wrong? I'm sure I remember your name from a QQ thread.
nope that wasnt mem i havent started any of those topics
zhen is a huge money burn for the dds and clerics anyway, only did it for 1 lvl or so, its actually not that insane xp, and i do know venos that zhen sometimes as lurer, yes they are a lot more rare then bm or barb, but it is possible to get a party, just go toss reflect on herc, or all that money save on pots and repairs use on trianing scrolls0 -
Lessie - Lost City wrote: »All right.
We cant go in zhen
We cant go in aoe parties.
But we can go in .... water grind parties !!!
That totally makes up for soloing from lvl 1 to 8x while everyone else does aoe at 4x and zhen since 6x.
zhen sux, huge money sink for some average xp
well unless ur a bm,wb or ep u cant rly aoe grind properly so its not only venoes
hmm lets see its like best xp for 80-90(xcept for bm solo aoe grind), its cheap but i guess thats not good enough for u
from 1-80 soloing or pt grinding at air/water mobs is fastest usually
as for venoes making money... at 74 with herc u can make round 3-4 mils in 6-7 h easilly (sqaud mode) with average drops so stfu and least stop complaining bout every so called weakness u find for venoesRemember, remember, the Fifth of November, the Gunpowder Treason and Plot. I know of no reason why the Gunpowder Treason should ever be forgot...0 -
zhen sux, huge money sink for some average xp
well unless ur a bm,wb or ep u cant rly aoe grind properly so its not only venoes
hmm lets see its like best xp for 80-90(xcept for bm solo aoe grind), its cheap but i guess thats not good enough for u
from 1-80 soloing or pt grinding at air/water mobs is fastest usually
as for venoes making money... at 74 with herc u can make round 3-4 mils in 6-7 h easilly (sqaud mode) with average drops so stfu and least stop complaining bout every so called weakness u find for venoes
it doenst matter does veno has herc or not in squad mode ...if u mean that veno solo tt in squad mode thats kinda rare cuz some ppl in squad wants drops too
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Eternalnub - Heavens Tear wrote: »it doenst matter does veno has herc or not in squad mode ...if u mean that veno solo tt in squad mode thats kinda rare cuz some ppl in squad wants drops too
Veno goes into HH squad mode alone I know many venos just invite people to squad to come and let them open the Squad mode and then they are free to go - squad gets dismissed, people go out of HH and veno goes and does it solo and keeps all the drops 0 -
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That says a lot bout ur pwi experience.zhen sux, huge money sink for some average xp
Or mages, nice aoeswell unless ur a bm,wb or ep u cant rly aoe grind properly so its not only venoes
hmm lets see its like best xp for 80-90(xcept for bm solo aoe grind), its cheap but i guess thats not good enough for u
Translation: paying 200$ will give u an advantage.as for venoes making money... at 74 with herc u can make round 3-4 mils in 6-7 h easilly (sqaud mode) with average drops so stfu and least stop complaining bout every so called weakness u find for venoes
Stfu thinking we can all drop 200$ to get a pet.
Another veno headache would be the insane ammount of people with no veno experience QQing thinking they know a lot.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
^^ Made by Saitada ^^
Dieho: I win 15 on 1, I roll all of your guild to sz all by myself !
Lessie: Proof?
Dieho: I dont have any, but my word is more than enough.
Lessie: Well I won 33 on 1 the other day
b:cute0 -
Javon - Lost City wrote: »1. don't complain about 3 armor choices , Bm have 4 weapon choices and if u **** that up and wanna change it can take an **** load of money to fix because u have to restat AND buy a new set of skills ><
You don't understand. The veno armor builds don't involve going with all-arcane, or all-light, or all-heavy. Certainly you can do that for simplicity (and most do for arcane and light). But for many venos it involves mixing light/arcane or heavy/arcane, especially with heavy.
I tried to work out a heavy/arcane build for my veno early on, and quickly gave up when I realized it would involve getting the stats for every heavy and arcane armor piece in the game, and finding the optimal mix of 4 of them that would provide decent p.def and m.def for each level at which a new armor piece becomes wearable.
You only have to pick between a paltry 4 weapons to choose from, and once you've made the choice you simply upgrade to the next one whenever you feel like it. A heavy/arcane veno has to pick between 2^4 = 16 possible combinations of heavy/arcane armor, even more when you factor in armor with reduced requirements and stat bonuses. And when she levels and can wear a new piece of armor, she has to start all over again and re-juggle everything because the best mix is going to be different. On top of this, there is no leeway for mistakes. The light veno has 2 stat points leeway. The heavy/arcane veno actually has negative leeway, and must use stat bonuses to make the build work.
It's a hardcore build for someone who is heavily into micromanaging their equipment and stats. I'm really into calculating this sort of stuff, but even this is beyond my level of tolerance. I just went with a light/arcane build. But I do know several people doing the heavy/arcane thing. I think they're crazy, but at the same time it gnaws at me. In the back of my head I *know* I could make my veno better if I would just invest the time into figuring out how to turn my veno into a heavy/arcane build...0 -
Lessie - Lost City wrote: »That says a lot bout ur pwi experience.
Or mages, nice aoes
Translation: paying 200$ will give u an advantage.
Stfu thinking we can all drop 200$ to get a pet.
Another veno headache would be the insane ammount of people with no veno experience QQing thinking they know a lot.
pfft at zhen , you have so much zhen experience to be talking?
archer and wizards with a good wep can get good xp solo, zhen is a money sink
if your a DD and dont zhen you can afford a herc or herc costing weps, im sitting on 70+ mil worth of equips aint that hard, never charged a dime
FS clerics have a bit harder time but they can aoe grind with bms, which can be great if youre any good
~18-20mil for a herc, learn to play a mmo, easily affordable by high 7x
i know 3 7x that wanted money, rerolled a veno and by 5x-6x from the veno alone afforded herc0 -
Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »~18-20mil for a herc, learn to play a mmo, easily affordable by high 7x
i know 3 7x that wanted money, rerolled a veno and by 5x-6x from the veno alone afforded herc
Really, I finally decided to get a phoenix and it took me all of 6 days to get the coins. Would have been less but I kept spending coins on other things.b:chuckleMain characters
Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
Sage Barbarian Malego - 910 -
Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »pfft at zhen , you have so much zhen experience to be talking?
archer and wizards with a good wep can get good xp solo, zhen is a money sink
if your a DD and dont zhen you can afford a herc or herc costing weps, im sitting on 70+ mil worth of equips aint that hard, never charged a dime
FS clerics have a bit harder time but they can aoe grind with bms, which can be great if youre any good
~18-20mil for a herc, learn to play a mmo, easily affordable by high 7x
i know 3 7x that wanted money, rerolled a veno and by 5x-6x from the veno alone afforded herc
QFT
I hate when venos complain about how much a herc/phoenix costs.0 -
tatakairyu wrote: »QFT
I hate when venos complain about how much a herc/phoenix costs.
and i hate that when u dont even know what ur talking about0 -
Eternalnub - Heavens Tear wrote: »and i hate that when u dont even know what ur talking about
What don't I know? Please do tell.0 -
tatakairyu wrote: »What don't I know? Please do tell.
make some veno and come to tell is it easy or not? does skills cost much? some pet skills cost up to 900k oh and dun forget that those skills need also upgrade which is 200k each lvl also normal skills oh wait i think u played veno to lvl20 and noticed it doesnt need any skills and pet kill for u ? am i right ?0 -
Lol, Ive made a veno and it's 10x easier making money than any other class I've played. My main is a BM though.
I do believe you've never played another class considering you don't know how hard it is to make money for them solo compared to a veno.
I think you what? Don't know how to play your class right?0 -
tatakairyu wrote: »Lol, Ive made a veno and it's 10x easier making money than any other class I've played. My main is a BM though.
I do believe you've never played another class considering you don't know how hard it is to make money for them solo compared to a veno.
I think you what? Don't know how to play your class right?
i made veno for that i can play other class...i have lvl68 archer and its expensive so stop ****..why u didnt started veno when u started game ?
i bet noone forced u to make bm/cleric/wiz but u picked wrong class and now crying here
how about before this goes to flame one go make that fking veno and
make some money and stfu please0 -
Eternalnub - Heavens Tear wrote: »i made veno for that i can play other class...i have lvl68 archer and its expensive so stop ****..why u didnt started veno when u started game ?
i bet noone forced u to make bm/cleric/wiz but u picked wrong class and now crying here
how about before this goes to flame one go make that fking veno and
make some money and stfu please
BAM, you just owned yourself right there. Why did you make a veno to fund your archer? oh that's right! they make money, thank you for proving my point and contradicting yourself.
People play other classes because they like them not because they make money.
You're also flaming you hypocrite, Go back to what you do best, which is what? Making a fool out of yourself?0
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