Veno's Pet (Phenix)!
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Anyway folks... I'm done here. mrninja is obviously unable to formulate a coherent sentence, let alone a coherent argument to back up his whine. Maybe in 10 years when he gets out of grade school he "might" have the ability to discourse with adults, I doubt it but one can always hope someone will rise above their disabilities.
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stop ur blah blah and ur 12345 really annoying, u think um an idiot i think ur an idiot for getting ur **** riped off, oh and she helps by keeping pwi running aww that's sweet, now u can just STFU Cearbear cash shop idiot zzzzzSaitada - Sanctuary wrote: »b:laugh We keep the game running. Guess that makes you sick b:laugh.
Now let me explain something to you. I will use small words for you so you will be able to understand it.
1. I make about $275.00 in an average day.
2. I Like playing PWI.
3. I use the cash shop.
4. I help keep PWI running so people like you can play for free.
5. I think your an idiot.
6. You have yet to prove me wrong.
7. I doubt you have the ability to do so.
8. You still make me laugh.
9. A lot.
10. I doubt that will ever change.
11. I think your less intelligent than a slug.
12. That will never change.
13. Have a nice day.
~Saitada
*edit* I didn't talk about your mommy and daddy, I told you to go running to them. A slight difference. If I had talked about them, I would have said "the best part of you ran down your mothers belly because your father was to stupid and missed and your mother thought her belly button was where he was supposed to put it".[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
stop ur blah blah and ur 12345 really annoying, u think um an idiot i think ur an idiot for getting ur **** riped off, oh and she helps by keeping pwi running aww that's sweet, now u can just STFU Cearbear cash shop idiot zzzzz
No, we know you're an idiot. Now please be quiet.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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stop ur blah blah and ur 12345 really annoying, u think um an idiot i think ur an idiot for getting ur **** riped off, oh and she helps by keeping pwi running aww that's sweet, now u can just STFU Cearbear cash shop idiot zzzzz
This topic was funny as hell,i even responded hah....Now its getting pathetic.
People can do whatever they want with their money,you ungrateful bear.
Oh and you are a shame for our server.So you can STFU and zzzz yourself all day long.
We all think that you are an idiot,because obviously you really are one.0 -
perfect world is perfect copy in many instances of the real world we live.
People complaint how others have things and they don't. Even though, those people used their money to buy it.
The good thing about PWI is that you play it if you want. You do not have to live in, like in the real world.
I'm Bm and I play in santuary. Fortunately for me, I only fight if I want to fight, since I only duel.
If I cannot beat a player for fare or unfare reasons, I can always fight another one.
In other words, I don't care how powerfull those pets are.There is no satisfaction in defeating a weaker opponent. Therefore, I will only fight stronger opponents than me (I'm looking forward to have the challenge vs phoenix in the future).0 -
talking with cash shop idiots is really annoying i thought i would find someone to understand that phenix is just over powered all i find is lvl and lvl 70 morons who think they know everything, well back to pk ppl not responding to this shiit anymore b:surrender good luck cearbear ppl have fun getting riped b:laugh kkthnxbb![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Saitada Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mrninja Fails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!talking with cash shop idiots is really annoying i thought i would find someone to understand that phenix is just over powered all i find is lvl and lvl 70 morons who think they know everything, well back to pk ppl not responding to this shiit anymore b:surrender good luck cearbear ppl have fun getting riped b:laugh kkthnxbb!
The problem is alot of the owners of the birds bought them with in game money not real world."Jesus fricking christ on a pogo stick. Your a mass of fricking idiots I swear!"
-Saitada
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Thankies Crystalynnex0 -
stop ur blah blah and ur 12345 really annoying, u think um an idiot i think ur an idiot for getting ur **** riped off, oh and she helps by keeping pwi running aww that's sweet, now u can just STFU Cearbear cash shop idiot zzzzz
Hmmm, reading all the posts and have come to the conclusion that you are your own best promoter of "The World Of Idiocy" ~ why don't you go play with the mentally disabled as you seem so attuned with their world. You might try checking the facts before blathering on and on about something you obviously know nothing about. And yeah, you have bullying behavior, which btw, does not work on real adults; maybe some mindless dimwitted child might be fooled by your posturing, but real people....naw (oops, unless it's your parents; that would explain a lot, lol) ~ Have a nice life, ElezaraGo north.... NO Elezara! YOUR OTHER NORTH! Oh Gods you went South!
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talking with cash shop idiots is really annoying i thought i would find someone to understand that phenix is just over powered all i find is lvl and lvl 70 morons who think they know everything, well back to pk ppl not responding to this shiit anymore b:surrender good luck cearbear ppl have fun getting riped b:laugh kkthnxbb!
Really sad.
The "pro" players make post " Haha my archer/mage one hit *WF name from enemy guild* phoenix,there goes your legend pet u non-factor"
While the ones that get "owned" by venomancers troll the forum
"Omgz pet legand veno overpowerd ! Me trying to convince people that it is are unfair cashop carebear die pk tea-party Omgz /wrist"
Gl with ganking newbs,be careful a phoenix might one-hit you b:chuckle0 -
Yes. Phoenixes are hideously, grossly, ridiculously, stupidly, idiotically overpowered, and flesh ream is hugely bugged.
No. It's not going to change.
Get used to it and stop whiningEveryone here is ridiculously oversensitive.0 -
talking with cash shop idiots is really annoying i thought i would find someone to understand that phenix is just over powered all i find is lvl and lvl 70 morons who think they know everything, well back to pk ppl not responding to this shiit anymore b:surrender good luck cearbear ppl have fun getting riped b:laugh kkthnxbb!
hehe...you can't spell.... PHOENIX not phenix, CARE not cear <-- thats the worst spelling mistake I have ever seen. And is riped supposed to be ripped? Or ****? lmao, 50 bucks says you're still in grade 2....0 -
Oh god not another one. I read somewhere there was QQ about not being to kill a heavy veno as a blademaster. Well yeah, that's right. It's a hard build to pull off but if you manage it correctly, you're no longer the squishy one shots. Anything melee is GG. It's not overpowered either considering there's aboslutly nothing cash shop about it unless you use restats later on (level 80+). Also consider the fox skills which compliment the build nicley.
Phoenix? shut up, seriously. Not every veno has one, not every veno can afford one. I have found ways to survive one..or more. Apoth potions, 79 skills, speed pots, heal skills, RUN, swim under water. It's just like any class you see coming white named and you know for a fact you can't kill them, you run. Consider phoenix that class. Dont come crying here just because you can't one shot the squishies anymore like you used to.
Now that venos finally have an edge in pvp it's omg overpowered QQ pheonix kill me NERF VENOS QQ. Just about the whole damn venomancer community is sick of hearing this. I have explained numerous things about the phoenix situtation but all you little kidddies want to do is whine/complain/QQ. If you're a blademaster consider yourself lucky that you're physical defense is high, because if you were a robe wearer I can guarantee you'd be way more ticked off.
Also on a side note to counter the rumour, phoenixes do not have any aoe skill, not even flesh ream. Come to think of it, there's no aoe pet in existance.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I find it funny he hasnt shown his IGN yet. I bet Saitada would love that. Come on here and being a chicken ****. The ones that are Carebears are the whinners to try to get there way.working it Q_Q
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Yeah it's easy talking trash and saying they would make someone life a living hell when they don't show who they are."Jesus fricking christ on a pogo stick. Your a mass of fricking idiots I swear!"
-Saitada
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Thankies Crystalynnex0 -
this thread makes other fix phoenix threads look bad0
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u (Cearbear) ppl having fun in ur own little (PVE) world with butterflies and sunshine all around u, GET TO THE REAL WORLD! COME TO LOST CITY! then um gonna show u how to play LOL, talking to a ppl with less Experince in pvp make my iq drop down xD, as long as gm's having fun and gathering money from ur asses b:dirty i'll say nothing further cuz i know um right i know this is BULL SHIIT!
Does this mean instead of your IQ being 20, it's now -5? Or was it always like that? I mean.. I can't tell the difference between this post and your opening post. -shrug-[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »Oh god not another one. I read somewhere there was QQ about not being to kill a heavy veno as a blademaster. Well yeah, that's right. It's a hard build to pull off but if you manage it correctly, you're no longer the squishy one shots. Anything melee is GG. It's not overpowered either considering there's aboslutly nothing cash shop about it unless you use restats later on (level 80+). Also consider the fox skills which compliment the build nicley.
Phoenix? shut up, seriously. Not every veno has one, not every veno can afford one. I have found ways to survive one..or more. Apoth potions, 79 skills, speed pots, heal skills, RUN, swim under water. It's just like any class you see coming white named and you know for a fact you can't kill them, you run. Consider phoenix that class. Dont come crying here just because you can't one shot the squishies anymore like you used to.
Now that venos finally have an edge in pvp it's omg overpowered QQ pheonix kill me NERF VENOS QQ. Just about the whole damn venomancer community is sick of hearing this. I have explained numerous things about the phoenix situtation but all you little kidddies want to do is whine/complain/QQ. If you're a blademaster consider yourself lucky that you're physical defense is high, because if you were a robe wearer I can guarantee you'd be way more ticked off.
Also on a side note to counter the rumour, phoenixes do not have any aoe skill, not even flesh ream. Come to think of it, there's no aoe pet in existance.
I totally agree with them and thank u for saying what a lot of venos have been thinking.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »Oh god not another one. I read somewhere there was QQ about not being to kill a heavy veno as a blademaster. Well yeah, that's right. It's a hard build to pull off but if you manage it correctly, you're no longer the squishy one shots. Anything melee is GG. It's not overpowered either considering there's aboslutly nothing cash shop about it unless you use restats later on (level 80+). Also consider the fox skills which compliment the build nicley.
Phoenix? shut up, seriously. Not every veno has one, not every veno can afford one. I have found ways to survive one..or more. Apoth potions, 79 skills, speed pots, heal skills, RUN, swim under water. It's just like any class you see coming white named and you know for a fact you can't kill them, you run. Consider phoenix that class. Dont come crying here just because you can't one shot the squishies anymore like you used to.
Now that venos finally have an edge in pvp it's omg overpowered QQ pheonix kill me NERF VENOS QQ. Just about the whole damn venomancer community is sick of hearing this. I have explained numerous things about the phoenix situtation but all you little kidddies want to do is whine/complain/QQ. If you're a blademaster consider yourself lucky that you're physical defense is high, because if you were a robe wearer I can guarantee you'd be way more ticked off.
Also on a side note to counter the rumour, phoenixes do not have any aoe skill, not even flesh ream. Come to think of it, there's no aoe pet in existance.
Stop posting BS its not an "edge" it IS overpowered but nothing is gonna happen so the rest of us jus have to keep dying or + our gear to 8/9/10 to deal with+0 venos. Most of the veno community agree its op btw. Also 9/10 venos have one.
Leave Sataida and dont hate on cs as people who do pay money support the game.
Either way nothing is gonna happen to change it so as someone who has posted a lot on the topic i really think we should just leave it alone and accept veno=pve/pvp god. Have fun with the many arguments to come within this thread.
Before i go heres a few facts before they come up.:
-20mil on another class doesnt allow u 2 beat a veno
-robe venos are not pvp build
-light armor venos are easy to make and hard to kill
-heavy venos my level has more mdef than me thus NOT mage 1 shots
-heavy armor refined gives more hp
-veno skills at 9x deal 500 less than a mage whilst phoenix hits 800+ on light armor without bleed
-its bleed thats bugged phoenix are fine
-phoenix can be bought with in-game gold which is gained rather easily for a veno
-barbs are tanks and not supposed to be killed 1v1 yet they are
-with a +8 weapon i cant 1 shot a robe my level who has decent gear without fury
-fox form~120% pdef
-mage earth barrier ~ 100%pdef
-venos should nevver be pure magic build
-zhenning is not a bug
-venos are second to only mages at leveling fastest towards end-game (90+) and the fastest 1-60, 60-70 they might not get in to zhens as easily 70-90 people grind in parties so same lvling speed for all classes
I think i have covered everything that is likely to come up in this thread can we close it now please. Either way im goneb:byeOfficial Guild History
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Chaotiic - Lost City wrote: »Stop posting BS its not an "edge" it IS overpowered but nothing is gonna happen so the rest of us jus have to keep dying or + our gear to 8/9/10 to deal with+0 venos. Most of the veno community agree its op btw. Also 9/10 venos have one.
Leave Sataida and dont hate on cs as people who do pay money support the game.
Either way nothing is gonna happen to change it so as someone who has posted a lot on the topic i really think we should just leave it alone and accept veno=pve/pvp god. Have fun with the many arguments to come within this thread.
Before i go heres a few facts before they come up.:
-20mil on another class doesnt allow u 2 beat a veno
-robe venos are not pvp build
-light armor venos are easy to make and hard to kill
-heavy venos my level has more mdef than me thus NOT mage 1 shots
-heavy armor refined gives more hp
-veno skills at 9x deal 500 less than a mage whilst phoenix hits 800+ on light armor without bleed
-its bleed thats bugged phoenix are fine
-phoenix can be bought with in-game gold which is gained rather easily for a veno
-barbs are tanks and not supposed to be killed 1v1 yet they are
-with a +8 weapon i cant 1 shot a robe my level who has decent gear without fury
-fox form~120% pdef
-mage earth barrier ~ 100%pdef
-venos should nevver be pure magic build
-zhenning is not a bug
-venos are second to only mages at leveling fastest towards end-game (90+) and the fastest 1-60, 60-70 they might not get in to zhens as easily 70-90 people grind in parties so same lvling speed for all classes
I think i have covered everything that is likely to come up in this thread can we close it now please. Either way im goneb:bye
*watches Chaotic's conniption fit with amusement*
Why did you bother posting that? It's like spitting into the wind when it's blowing into your face : it's not a good idea and accomplishes nothing.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
chaottic i just gotta say i think your spot on with those facts, im not sure about the last one(not saying its wrong just im not 100% backing it) about lvling speeds because its hard to gather data from that as are many differences in using scrolls aoes grinding using your class efficiently
hercs and pheonixs can aoe grind (in a way) with reflect because of thier ridiculous defences and the venos very low heal cost upkeep(which is sooo not fair to cleric healers)0 -
Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »chaottic i just gotta say i think your spot on with those facts, im not sure about the last one(not saying its wrong just im not 100% backing it) about lvling speeds because its hard to gather data from that as are many differences in using scrolls aoes grinding using your class efficiently
hercs and pheonixs can aoe grind (in a way) with reflect because of thier ridiculous defences and the venos very low heal cost upkeep(which is sooo not fair to cleric healers)
The problem with his post is the vast majority is irrelevant to the topic.
As for your post :
How is the veno's ability to heal their pet unfair to a cleric? Should it cost twice as much? Take twice as long? What makes it unfair to a class that can heal any player in the game?
What do the pets themselves have to do with anything since the buffs can be given to any veno pet?
Is the "reflect damage" ability good for anything more than helping the pet hold aggro on the mobs while the veno burns them down?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Phoenix and Herc DO NOT AOE (Area Of Effect) Grind. Herc has Bramble Guard yes. But it only works on mobs ALREADY BEATING ON IT! And Phoenix doesn't have ANY bramble guard and it can't be given to it.
FACT: Hercules and Phoenix DO NOT come with ANY AOE skills. PERIOD. (and last I checked, there are no AOE pet skills anyway... unless I read the descriptions wrong.). Get your facts straight first so you don't make such a silly mistake again.
As for the Veno pet heal bit... Let me ask you something here... ever see a mob hit your pet for 3/4 of it's life in one swipe? I have. My pet heal doesn't recover it's entire hp bar (most yes, but not all). I burn 4/5th of a bar or more (when I run w/o a Heiro) chain healing my pet to keep it alive... frequently. And thats using potions (not powders, I save those for emergencies). So my mana costs are a lot higher than your stating. I'd like to see you pay for my 5 mana Heiro's each week then tell me I have an advantage with my heal. Oh and a side note. I don't ZHEN to burn up my Heiro's like many Archers, Clerics and Wizards do. I actually WORK for my levels. To Those Clerics, Wizards and Archers that don't Zhen and DO work for their levels. Respect.
~Saitada
*edit* And yes, the Flesh Ream (bleed) skill is bugged. it SHOULD have that damage reduction like all other skills. It would be nice if they actually fixed it, or just made it so the Nix couldn't use it at all.0 -
OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »*watches Chaotic's conniption fit with amusement*
Why did you bother posting that? It's like spitting into the wind when it's blowing into your face : it's not a good idea and accomplishes nothing.
um...how did u come to this conclusion?
I basically said yes its overpowered no its not going to change here are some facts which usually are argued about in a thread such as this. All of which are true other than the last one which as mosz pointed out is debatable.
Saitada people dont really zhen after 74/75 as its too much money and only slightly faster than just grinding in a pt. In fact at 8x zhenning is actually slower than party grinding and much more expensive so zhen doesnt become a factor after 75. Grinding in at the major spots is best 75+ ad u will find venos get into these grind parties easily becomes they kill mobs soo fast with combined pet and nuke damage. In fact at our butterflies/undine/fish pts the order of preference was mage>veno>archer>cleric>melee with the only exception being if we had 5 people and no clerics we would make last spot a cleric(for buffs clerics dont heal in grind pts).Official Guild History
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pfft way too much talk about the damn Phoenix b:cry
THIS GAME IS UNBALANCED GET OVER IT...
Us mages have learned that the best way to play the game for us is just to laugh it away omg look all classes own us hahaha omg look all classes are wanted in squads just not us hahaha and hey look all classes take multiple mobs and we cant hahaha I can go on like this all day but all I have to say to you mrninja is suck it up all these veno b1tches rolled this class for that bug anyway so as I sayed suck it up and laugh it off..Is Back once more.
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Mosabi - Heavens Tear wrote: »..........all these veno **** rolled this class for that bug anyway so as I sayed suck it up and laugh it off..
They did? Really? Do you have any proof of this what-so-ever?Chaotiic - Lost City wrote: »um...how did u come to this conclusion?
I basically said yes its overpowered no its not going to change here are some facts which usually are argued about in a thread such as this. All of which are true other than the last one which as mosz pointed out is debatable.
You posted a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with the topic as if it was relevant when it was irrelevant and extraneous. You assumed they were going to be posted, so you posted them anyway when it's not entirely clear that they were going to be posted, mentioned or even relevant.
As I said, it's like spitting into a wind that is blowing directly at you.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »They did? Really? Do you have any proof of this what-so-ever?
None of my pets even HAVE that skill. Even in the few TW's I've been in I didn't give it to my pets.Main characters
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Actually, I rolled a Veno because I have always enjoyed playing pet classes. Every Fantasy based MMO I have ever played that has a Pet class... I ALWAYS roll one. PERIOD.Mosabi - Heavens Tear wrote: »all these veno b1tches rolled this class for that bug anyway so as I sayed suck it up and laugh it off..
I was totally unaware of ANY "bug" concerning the Venomancer class when I rolled Saitada (and the bug isn't with the class itself, but with ONE PET SKILL). Fact is.. I rolled Saitada before I knew ANYTHING about the game other than it existed. Your assumption therefore is wrong.
Remember. When you ASSUME you make an **** out of yourself.
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Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »None of my pets even HAVE that skill. Even in the few TW's I've been in I didn't give it to my pets.
I think I saw you in Archosaur last week with a cat shop set-up.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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