Dont worry it gets easier

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  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    wow who are you to say plume wont hit 22k plume you are not even a cleric guess it's my bad not to mention thats with advanced spark eruption, my bad
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  • CloudStrlfe - Lost City
    CloudStrlfe - Lost City Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    well... i heard that veno is just as easy to lvl after 60 XD
  • Pandora - Lost City
    Pandora - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Wizards fail, their survial rate is utterly pathetic a FAC cleric "slightly" out damages them anyway with demons spirits gift.
    Clerics can solo anything because we have powerful heals
    Barbs bms venos all classes are better at pvp/pve than mages.
    Mages don't get stronger a lvl 74 mage with pure Int build can't 1hit mobs you just get walked over by others inculding mobs the only thing a mage can take advantage of is a weakness or sac assault mob nothing else
    yah I can glady admit I walk over lvl 65 mages simpily
    chromatic seal - spark - plume plume
    I think mages are unrated in this game if you can't kill a mage you absolutely suck now
    I do admit that ice dragon skill (mages strongest spell i think) IS EPICCCC

    Calm down low level. FACs are useless, they have only 3 spells worth using and 2 of them are the same element, the third is non-elemental. Your damage is nothing compared to a mage, you don't have Undine Strike which makes you total **** compared. Mages have way more survivability than you because of barrier and blink.

    FACs are kicked out of all competitive guilds on the real server for being useless. Lol.
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  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Omg... I just laughed so much it hurt reading pandoras post, coming from someone that will argue to thier grave that wizards suck, and are gimped and so on and so forth just told that FAC they are more useless then a wizard (atleast, thats what I got out of it)

    omg... it hurts so good. I try to argue all day that a FAC can never out damage a wizard where it counts *points in the direction of end game*

    Pandora earns a little bit of respect from me now, not like they care =P
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    FACs are a mage knock off end of story..
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    sorry med school needs some time.
  • Kikuzakura - Sanctuary
    Kikuzakura - Sanctuary Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    if you keep stating your mag(int) you should have no proplem what so ever in the increase of mana consomption and believe me lvling your skills is important as lvling your self and lvling your gear (getting better ones).

    And I do plan on leveling my skills, but I do not plan on leveling all of them. Do you really think I need to level pyrogram?
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    max it actually cuz a maxed pyrogram and gush combo (repeat if needed) is a great PVE combo
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    sorry med school needs some time.
  • jemima
    jemima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    streaker wrote: »
    Omg... I just laughed so much it hurt reading pandoras post, coming from someone that will argue to thier grave that wizards suck, and are gimped and so on and so forth just told that FAC they are more useless then a wizard (atleast, thats what I got out of it)

    omg... it hurts so good. I try to argue all day that a FAC can never out damage a wizard where it counts *points in the direction of end game*

    Pandora earns a little bit of respect from me now, not like they care =P
    Alas, it seems to be a futile endeavour. It's to be expected probably. The sort of person who thinks that a FAC is good and outdamages a mage isn't going to be swayed by mere logic such as comparing Tempest and Black Ice Dragon Strike.

    It's kinda like arguing with a creationist. They're wrong, and can't possibly back up their argument with anything meaningful, but they'll be damned if they'll change their minds.
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I sayed in another thread treat him as a child when he says "am the strongest man in the world" say "yes.....yes you are little munchckin"
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    sorry med school needs some time.
  • Pandora - Lost City
    Pandora - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    jemima wrote: »
    Alas, it seems to be a futile endeavour. It's to be expected probably. The sort of person who thinks that a FAC is good and outdamages a mage isn't going to be swayed by mere logic such as comparing Tempest and Black Ice Dragon Strike.

    It's kinda like arguing with a creationist. They're wrong, and can't possibly back up their argument with anything meaningful, but they'll be damned if they'll change their minds.

    Amen.

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  • Leprechaundh - Sanctuary
    Leprechaundh - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    From personal experience I have found that wizards at a lower lvls seem to have the hardest time to lvl get money and pve or pvp respectively but as an advice to all starter wizards out there dont worry..

    as you will notice that as you lvl and everyone else lvls with you they will say that the game gets harder and stuff but after 60 you will feel that the game gets easier and easier to the point where I aggro 3-5 mobs in the swamp on me and kill them all while BMs say they have a hard time killing 2 together so I personally cant wait to get to 70 and 80 and just see how easy it will get there ..

    so if you are furstraited about your wizard I tell you relax I was too but I grinded my teeth and now I fell much more comfortable than I was its a great class a bit easy from lvl 1-20 and a bit bish **** hard from lvl 21-58 then the diagram of hardnees start to go down fast now am 68 and fell like am the best class out there and yes even clerics think its hard from 60 and venos get sh1tty more and more after 60..

    just pick up the pace work hard and you will seeb:pleased

    Well, from the other games (Actually just one) I've played, it seems that the harder things are when you are a n00b the easier it will be when you're elite. Much easier. The other game I played was hard as **** when I started. All the other teams beat the **** out of the noob maps constantly, but the ppl who stuck in that company are now the fiercest warriors in the place and are pretty unstoppable.

    That's pretty much why I don't have that much of a problem with being weak cuz the harder you work the more it pays off in the end. At least I hope it's true here cuz this game takes alot longer and i'd rather not waste my time :/
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Calm down low level. FACs are useless, they have only 3 spells worth using and 2 of them are the same element, the third is non-elemental. Your damage is nothing compared to a mage, you don't have Undine Strike which makes you total **** compared. Mages have way more survivability than you because of barrier and blink.

    FACs are kicked out of all competitive guilds on the real server for being useless. Lol.

    Lol undine strike decreases magic defence by 60% damn.. lucky we got magic shell lol? a 60% increase

    Icedragon strike - 9648.9 + 500%
    Tempest - 9337.1 + 400% we get a lil demons spirits gift +220% wep there we go we out damage a mage lol
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  • Orenji - Heavens Tear
    Orenji - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Too bad everyone gets those buffs from cleric and i think it's sad you keep stressing the point even when its been said and proven you are wrong.. but keep going at it, i think everyone here needs something to laugh at. GG and GL
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lol undine strike decreases magic defence by 60% damn.. lucky we got magic shell lol? a 60% increase

    Icedragon strike - 9648.9 + 500%
    Tempest - 9337.1 + 400% we get a lil demons spirits gift +220% wep there we go we out damage a mage lol


    Ok, and we have demon earth barrier, +150% Pdef, we also have elemental shell, +1000% magic res for 4 seconds, and instant cast, no channel, might only be 4 seconds, but all we have to do is throw it up right before your temptest, and problem solved, and they have the same cool down, and being as ours is instant, and yours isnt, we have another ready by the time you've got another temptest, not to mention we can interupt your temptest np. anything else you want us to counter?b:laugh
  • Pandora - Lost City
    Pandora - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lol undine strike decreases magic defence by 60% damn.. lucky we got magic shell lol? a 60% increase

    Icedragon strike - 9648.9 + 500%
    Tempest - 9337.1 + 400% we get a lil demons spirits gift +220% wep there we go we out damage a mage lol

    The bad news is, we can have both. Lol. Nobody PVPs unbuffed, fool.

    You truly are a PVE Server Professional.
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  • Orenji - Heavens Tear
    Orenji - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    The bad news is, we can have both. Lol. Nobody PVPs unbuffed, fool.

    You truly are a PVE Server Professional.

    Server has nothing to do with this, he's just a ignorant newbie trying to prove a point and refuses to accept he's wrong.

    Imo i think he played cleric thinking it did much more dmg than a wiz does but there are couple things he's not even taking into consideration.. for example manifest virtue.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Server has nothing to do with this, he's just a ignorant newbie trying to prove a point and refuses to accept he's wrong.

    Imo i think he played cleric thinking it did much more dmg than a wiz does but there are couple things he's not even taking into consideration.. for example manifest virtue.


    +1 to that.

    In pvp, you always get full party buffs, well, the 1s worth having... not to mention self buffs... a light armor wizard with full party buffs, and a demon earth barrier could quite possible render a plume shot close to useless, then we have self buffs a cleric cant get, that make our damage that much more...

    so this little cleric proves how little he knows about wizards by saying he can outdamage a wizard in end game just because he can outdamage a wizard at these low lvls... the sooner he drops the wannabewizzy act, the sooner he can start healing and stop making an **** out of himself.b:laugh

    EDIT: oh, and he keeps comparing his temptest to our BIDS... lets try this with blade temptest... lets see if this little cleric can survive a celestial blade temptest... regardless of level... "the target to suffer both physical and Fire damage equal to base magic damage plus 200% of weapon damage plus 6200.0." that may not sound like much, but its both PHYSICAL AND MAGIC DAMAGE. Then add buffs in to that, and you've got yourself a cleric fried to perfection. So many points in this topic, that our poor little nubbie fails to take in to concideration. If you were to pvp against a lv 100 wizard when you were level 100, you would give up on attacking and try to heal yourself to prolong your enevidable death. gg.
  • EP_DarkSol - Lost City
    EP_DarkSol - Lost City Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Yeah.

    I looked at the cleric forums and was almost fooled by their ignorance.

    But then I remembered:

    We have all the same (good) elemental debuffs and buffs, PLUS Wellspring Quaff and Manifest virtue.

    In fact, with the item that refills sparks(I forgot the name. I'ma noob. :P) we can wellspring quaff, manifest virtue, undine strike, and element shell, triple fury, refill, and then **** away.

    That's in the mid 20k's right there. No cleric will EVER get that high without a crit.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Yeah.

    I looked at the cleric forums and was almost fooled by their ignorance.

    But then I remembered:

    We have all the same (good) elemental debuffs and buffs, PLUS Wellspring Quaff and Manifest virtue.

    In fact, with the item that refills sparks(I forgot the name. I'ma noob. :P) we can wellspring quaff, manifest virtue, undine strike, and element shell, triple fury, refill, and then **** away.

    That's in the mid 20k's right there. No cleric will EVER get that high without a crit.

    then picture us critting with it... mid to upper 40ks (thats going by your math, i didnt add it up to confirm, lol)

    and I will not lie, i still dont know what the hell fury is, lol

    EDIT: Oh, fury is spark eruption, it confused me when I see spark and fury in the same post, lol
  • EP_DarkSol - Lost City
    EP_DarkSol - Lost City Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I didn't add it up either. I estimated based on a Screen of a triple fury ult doing 16k base. With Wellspring/Manifest Virtue, that's at least 1400 more, possibly more, and then with the debuff, we're doing 30% more, so...

    17.4k + 1700x3~=23K


    This is all estimation, but with a crit, that's almost 70 K damage.

    HOLY ****.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    thats... siiiicccckkkk lol.... picture that in pve on a boss, lol... i >>>think<<< its 66k x 4 which is... about 264k? thats just ret4rded.... lol I think i just creamed myself thinking about damage thats probably over estimated... but man, those higher levels are gonna be relaxing :D

    and yes.. I laughed a lot in this post... I think it had something to do with that rediculasly high number xP
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    For the newer audiences, beware. The items and time required to make this ultimate combo takes a long time, so, don't paint illusions too quickly. XD To make you guys happier, imagine that combo with an upgraded 8jun wep with some, say, grade 9 stones or higher. Though I... don't think it reaches the 70k's, lol, it doesn't have to.
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  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I think 15k can 1 hit a barb at lv 90-100, but I could easily be wrong, anything more then a 1 hit is just boasting, but boasting is fun lol, i mean, I lmao when a much higher lvl hits me hard enough to kill me twice
  • AndromedaB - Sanctuary
    AndromedaB - Sanctuary Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    streaker wrote: »
    thats... siiiicccckkkk lol.... picture that in pve on a boss, lol... i >>>think<<< its 66k x 4 which is... about 264k? thats just ret4rded.... lol I think i just creamed myself thinking about damage thats probably over estimated... but man, those higher levels are gonna be relaxing :D

    and yes.. I laughed a lot in this post... I think it had something to do with that rediculasly high number xP

    do u do more damage on pvp server?
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Im on sanctuary too, lol, I just like to tw, and pk from time to time, but I would have to say no, its the same on every server, but I think what confused you was the 66k x 4 part

    I was meaning there is a dmg penalty when pvping, so you do less dmg in pvp then u do pve, but dont recall what % the penalty is sorry
  • Calibix - Heavens Tear
    Calibix - Heavens Tear Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    streaker wrote: »
    Im on sanctuary too, lol, I just like to tw, and pk from time to time, but I would have to say no, its the same on every server, but I think what confused you was the 66k x 4 part

    I was meaning there is a dmg penalty when pvping, so you do less dmg in pvp then u do pve, but dont recall what % the penalty is sorry

    You do roughly 1/4 of the damage you do in pve when your pvping.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Thats what I had calculated it at, but thanks for confirming :D
  • Mythix - Lost City
    Mythix - Lost City Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    wizards suck
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  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    wizards suck

    Lookie here, if it isn't Mysticlifex on LC, the mister "I am better than every wizard in the game" and the "clerics out damage wizard" guy. I'm eager to see people kick your butt in LC.

    Also, learn some manners, troll.
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Will if you pick a mage thinking its gonna be an easy ride your wrong picking a class in this game is like choosing a diffuculty lvl in console game I tried all other class and I mean all but blah what a bore espicially those venos if you enjoy playing a wizard and play veno not for the sole reason of money you will be bored out of youe head...

    Bottom line is wizard is the Hardest level in this game some cant handle it and quit some bit through it and then eventually quit and some like me enjoy it to the full extent we maybe gimped but only cuz its the hardness of it true players, pro players and without a doubt the best players are the ones that choose wizard and stick with it all the way..
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    sorry med school needs some time.