Does this game get funner as you level?

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

A lot of the later quests are "kill 35 of mob X" or "collect 15 items from mob Y" type quests. The latter are particularly insidious since the drop rate may be so low that you need to kill 50-100 of the things to get the items. So although the quests themselves do not give much exp relative to your level, killing the mobs gives you plenty of exp. On a couple of quests, the mobs alone gave me enough exp to level. I suppose if you consistently group with higher levels you might not get as much mob exp.

I looked also on other forums and everyone said that until lvl35 its enough to just do quests to lvl up but after that, quests give you just 50% exp and in 40s even less 30% and it continues to even less and less.No matter if quest says to kill x mobs thats again not enough to lvl up.Those earlier qusts give you maybe 3000 exp which is little.

Specgoesemo - Lost City wrote: »

Not a lie I didn't grind ONCE until I hit lvl60 something. And even then, the only reason I used grinding to level up was because I could zhen at that point. I still had PLENTY of quests to do at those levels and even now at lvl72 I have about 12 quests and a few others I haven't grabbed yet.

If you didnt grind ONCE until 60 then you failed to mention you used an EXP scroll. Once you pass 55's then you will find yourself grinding at least 1-3 times to 60, unless you where EXTREMELY unlucky on mob drops for certain quests. I look on the net and take note of every single quest so I dont miss any of it and even so I do grind a tad.

As for the original question... beginning times the game is a bit boring and repetitive. This saying because I originally played FFXI which had a little more options in their MMORPG. Once you get past the 'boring' stage, then it does get fun. Mostly because thats when you start to get more friendly with the pple around you. If you have a bit of leadership skills then its more interesting since you can look up the forums for strats on bosses and squad needed quests.

Imuretay - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Just because he's past level 40 does not mean he can't work on lvl 31-40 quests.

I'll be a lvl 23 cleric before I ever start on the lvl 22 quests without any grinding outside of the quests. And looking at the quests and XP from them I'll be in the mid 3X lvls before I even receive the FB29 quest.

i didnt say that he cant work on earlier quest, but im now lvl36 cleric what is point to do 29 or 30lvl quest when they give a little exp but i ve done all quest on any lvl and i need to grind.You recieve fb29 quest when you are lvl 29 so thats impossible to be lvl 30,31, or 32 and than recieve first time fb29 quest.You can get much exp from doing 1 lvl earlier quests but not 10lvl earlier.But we are talking about those who has done all quests and still need to grind.I repeat i looked at link i posted and i finished all quests on any lvl.

Bobncut - Sanctuary wrote: »

The way that site is organized, though, illustrates some of the confusion here. The link you gave is not the complete set of quests available. It does not include the spiritual cultivation quests, the guard quests, the dragon quests, nor the quests for the seal of seven. Is it grinding or questing to take the same guard quest mob over and over? Is the whole dragon quest business a set of quests or an elaborate farming project? Sprit cultivation and the seal thing all have level and prior quest requirements before you can get them. Additionally, with the various easier leveling aspects of one event or another over the last couple of months, it is hard to tell what the "normal" pattern should be. But, it does seem like the game builds in a sharp decline in quest activity in the late 50s (and certainly by 60). It is not a coincidence that this is the point where you start having access to a lot more ways to spend time (TT runs, events, cube, others?).

Guard quests are One-man army quests. Those only give rep and celestone fragment, they dont give any XP at all.

Dragon Quests are just an infinitely repeating loop, and those are listed on a seperate page. They're really just a waste unless you need the Dragon Orders. Altho they do grant XP, its really just a type of really long repeatable.

Cultivation are listed on a seperate page on that site also.

Seal of Seven quests are in fact in those quest lists.

My bad, I was just going from memory, but thought the seal of seven was a separate list on that page.

Guard quests (or one-man army or whatever) don't give exp reward, but people pick them up as quests and then go grind on that mob. I consider that grinding with a slightly higher payoff (the 1 rep point the guard will give every x mobs), but it is not wrong to consider them a quest and think "I made my level without having to grind." Same thing with the dragon quests. If that, to you, seems like something other than grinding, good for you. There is no point in arguing about whether it is really possible to do this since it is entirely up to each player what they consider a fun quest and what they consider a grind.

The OP considers a lot of the exp-rewarding quests to be a grind. My main point was to say that there are different sorts of things that come available at later levels and the game recognizes this by dropping off the basic quests. Whether that makes the game "funner" or not is still a very subjective matter.

Jessup - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Um Real grinding is from 40 on. And , you can not say no because I have 3 quests a level. The 3 quests don't even do anything they may as well take them out of the game and make this game called GrindGame.

I believe I understand your point, but I do not think you should feel so unhappy about this game.

If I take myself for an example, I get most of my experience for my levels from quest completions. Maybe one sixth of my experience for my levels comes from that experience that I gain by killing things. (Also, after a couple initial way back when I could first do them, I have never done crazy stone, because I do not enjoy that quest. I do other quests, instead.)

And, one of these days, I really want to try visiting Adventure Island. And I also want to try some Cube of Fate rooms, really soon. And I need to remember to finish Jewelscalen before I lose that quest because I got too many levels (can I lose that quest by leveling? i do not know, but I am worried). And I need to deal with Luminoc Architect somehow. And...

But you do have a good point -- when you reach level 40, your "Find Quests" button stops finding most of your potential quests.

Well, I have a lvl 59 character and I haven't grinded him once(Except at lvl 41. Even then I DID have quests, I just felt like grinding).

But that's probably due to the fact that I play very casually and make sure to do my Crazy Stone quest every day.

Jessup - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Um , there is 2-3 quests a level from lvl 40 - 50. So I think your wrong. You did grind. There is no other way around it. Unless you have secret quests in your pockets that the GM's gave you.

Hou Jehnsi, you bright spark.

Jessup - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Um , there is 2-3 quests a level from lvl 40 - 50. So I think your wrong. You did grind. There is no other way around it. Unless you have secret quests in your pockets that the GM's gave you.

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Actually, I used to run into the same issues when I first started on another version, but I found a work around.

I noticed that at lower levels, if I joined squads to do normal quests, I ended up with less exp. overall. Sure the quest reward was the same, but during the killing I got signifigantly less exp. I started to notice early on that I was having to grind like the last 10+% every level, and that amount grew bigger as I got higher in levels.

Now, I solo whenever possible, unless I am in a hurry, or if I have to kill certain quest monsters that will just punish me. At low levels, before I go rushing to turn in a completed quest, I look to see where I am percentage wise.

I get every quest done for that level before I even think about turning them in and if I am close to leveling (90+% before I turn in), and getting good % from the local mobs, then I stay killing till I level. THEN I turn in all my quests from the previous level and that gives me a huge head start on the next level. Between that and the daily quest, I haven't had quest issues till around level 60+. Then I just sit back and do my daily and hunt for loot more than exp.

no it doesnt as you level it just becomes a money sink

When people say ''grindin''' they generally assosciate it w/ mindless, endless killin' w/ the sole purpose of gainin' exp.
The difference in killin' mobs for quests is that even though you get exp/kill, the sole purpose is to complete the quest, so you can hand it in, and is therefore not endless. It's a quest, a mission to be completed.
Grindin' is endless.

I quest and do mobs if the quest calls for it. I also grind certain mobs for exp and coins only. I make 17% exp and over 100k in 1 single hour just grinding non-quested mobs alone. There not the same and grinding is simply an added option for me.

But techniqually to grind means to push and kill over and over without really taking a break. You can grind your questing and you can grind just for exp and coins if u chose the right mob for your level.

Funner isn't even a real word. Unless it's been officially recognized, and if so I feel sorry for the English language even more.

I think one of the main reasons a person may run out of quests before level 35 is the fact that they play a LOT. The daily crazy stone quest, for example, is done everyday by most, if not all, players. Now, add in the normal quests. If you are able to achieve maybe...2 or 3 levels of quests a day, plus daily quest, in respect to...say, 2 quests per day and daily stone, then the gap widens.
Ex:
P1: does 2 quests and daily stone
OR
P2: does 5 quests and daily stone

Player one limits his play time to 2 quests a day plus daily. Then he can do more quests and another daily tomorrow. Levels slowly but has more quests than player 2. If player two is able to play maybe 6 hours a day, who knows how many quests he can do? He may lvl, but the leveling will stop when all he can depend on is the daily quest. Player one will still have an adequate number of quests and daily quest to support him through.

Lesson: Dont play too much.