Is this game sexist? Definatley yes. Suggestions...

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  • Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    fuzzles wrote: »
    Did your husband let you onto the forums? Stop complaining about the tiniest perceived sexist aspects of the game and fix him a meal.

    oh my god... THAT RIGHT THERE WAS SEXIST! Men love to cook too, and not all of the wives are the cooks in the duo. b:angry

    NO ONE on here ever said that a frail bunny veno would be able to pick up a giant barbarian. But why can't the girls hug each other? I hug my friends all the time. Why can't guys pat each other on the back or wrap their shoulder around the other guy? I've seen guys do it before! And they weren't ****. heck, my two best guy-friends did a weird hugging thing yesterday, what is it called? right! A friendly head-lock! Why can't guys do that? Since some guys don't see the reason to be able to stand showing any weakness, head lock the other guy instead of embracing him! God, you men are so difficult.
  • Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    oh my god... THAT RIGHT THERE WAS SEXIST! Men love to cook too, and not all of the wives are the cooks in the duo. b:angrySince some guys don't see the reason to be able to stand showing any weakness, head lock the other guy instead of embracing him! God, you men are so difficult.

    I've evolved beyond headlock hellos. These days I prefer to hit my buddies in the knees with a crowbar to say hello. Or if I haven't seen them for ages, I prefer to tear open their chest, rip out their still-beating heart and present it to the dreaded and feared Sun God as a way of saying hello.
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.
  • Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I would like to be able to carry my friends as well. I think its lame that guys/girls cant carry same sex.
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  • Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    In case many of you do not know, this game originates from China. Your first question to this would be how is this relevant to why males can't carry males or why females can't carry females? Very simple, China does not recognize homosexuality. I asked my Chinese professor recently if, due to rumors I had heard, China had made homosexuality a crime. His response, after having lived and worked there for seven years, was that China does not acknowledge homosexuality. If you were to ask someone, as he had, they would tell you they do not have it in the country, even though they actually do. This is the answer to your question of same sex embrace feature. It may change, but if the Chinese company has anything to say about it, it won't.

    Secondly, I am in full favor of embrace being in different forms, however remember that this game has only been in open beta for two months. DON'T CALL THE DEVELOPERS SEXIST FOR ONLY HAVING WHAT THE CHINESE SERVERS GAVE THEM! Once again, China still has old ideals in their country, so it would only be expected they would have males holding females in such a way. Make the suggestion, show support or rejection, and then move on. There is no need to make insults towards PW staff for any reason, as they have shown a lot more responsibility than the MY-EN servers, especially when it comes to territory war.

    So, again, make your suggestions and move on. Discuss the suggestions if you wish, but please do not insult those who do not deserve it.

    Happy Gaming b:victory

    P.S.: Before anyone tries to say it, this is not me being a hypocrite and insulting you, it is me trying to keep things from escalating for nonsense. Remember, none of the staff are sexist, and they will either implement your suggestions because they see them being of better use as such, or they will not.

    Just felt this needed to be re-posted. Opened my eyes quite a bit really. Yeah, I'd love to be able to fly someone some where if we're headed in the same direction. But do this correctly, don't just bash the people that have no control.
  • Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I'm all for this equal rights movement :) I sure hope that the GMs and designers take this into serious consideration - politics within our own world are so screwed up so why can't simple things as same-sex or matriarchal features be incorporated within this "Perfect World"? Just food for thought...:)
  • Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I'm all for this equal rights movement :) I sure hope that the GMs and designers take this into serious consideration - politics within our own world are so screwed up so why can't simple things as same-sex or matriarchal features be incorporated within this "Perfect World"? Just food for thought...:)

    I sure hope Not! Lets leave the politics of same sex issues etc. in the messed up real world thanks!, not in a fantasy game
    This whole thread is just full of sexist comments, and it's supposed to be a suggestion box forum, why not discuss things like this in the Off Topic Forumb:thanks
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  • Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I just wanted to bump this and add, yet again, that girls should be able to carry people on their mounts and that guys should be able to carry other guys. My characters are all female and since many of my male friends don't have mounts I can't use mine when I'm playing with them. Seriously, would adding a "give ride" function be that difficult? A lot of people have asked for this function already. The saddles on the mounts are definitely big enough for two people to ride on one in front of the other. I spent $10 on my mount and I'd like to be able to use it when playing with people who don't have one.
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  • Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    It's a shame one can't attach pictures to posts... I'd be happy to show several examples of how females could grab people to fly them around or how a male could get a lift from a barbarian in cat-form. I'll try to describe it in words but simply put, there is nothing homosexual about same gender hugs. After all, the term used is "embrace", not "make out" and for that reason alone, it should not be limited to the old kliche that only boys and girls embrace and only in a certain way. That's silly.
    Males could be carried in flight by simply having the winged one grab them under the arms. Nothing sexual at all about that. Males could easily ride a barbarian in tigerform to. Granted, the fox of female venomancers I have no simple answer to, they are simply to small to 'carry' a man in a graceful manner but they could surely apply some shrinking magic of sorts or perhaps take the form of a different animal then a fox? A unicorn or something less petite.
  • Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited January 2009
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    I just realized my post was cut short... -very- short... And now I'm to tired to re-type it all... *sigh* I hate buggy forums... But what I said was in short: Guys can ambrace and not be ****, women can fly passsengers and armor should look like armor. If we want to dress for party, we can use the "special" clothing. Enuff said.
  • Posts: 917 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I'd like to be able to carry my male friends and bf, I dont really have a problem with the very revealing armors but I understand others could there's some not-so revealing fashions like the chipao or the new dress.
    Sure it suxs if my friend needs a ride and I'm not male I cant do **** even if I got the mount, but no matter how much we whine this wont change.
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  • Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    ummm im too tired to read through the 17 pages but..... as a barb with full heavy armour on.... id love to see a cleric pick me up and hold my big furry **** in their arms lol
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  • Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I can't wait until some of the fashion items get imported into this game. There's some interesting stuff they made for this game. ^_^
  • Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Ok, I don't think this game is sexist, but there are a few things that need to change.

    1) there should be more embraces, females could hold males hand, giving them character control, females could carry females the way the embrace is now, and males could have there arm around in a friendly way

    now for flying females should be able to give males rides (and 2 females and 2 males) it can't be that hard to do.

    Untamed beasts>someone could stand at front like we do now, then the other could sit in the middle or stand with there hands on the hips or shoulders.

    BM & Wizards> one could stand like they do now, other could sit with their legs over the side of the sword.

    Winged Elfs> Males should only be able to carry females as winged elfs, it's not sexist, it would just look odd with a female carrying a heavier male and would look unrealistic


    2) Why is it only venos get pets, when we Barbarians are from the same race, we should be allowed to have pets to help us fight to becuase we cannot DD as much as the other classes.


    3) (off topic but still I though i'd share it with you) This whole random color clothes thing is a scam, why couldn't we just pick it when we buy. whats the point of trying to get the right pigments, other than making us spend more money on the game =S
  • Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    lol isnt it a tad ridiculous that your arguing about a video game being sexist? i mean for real guys is it THAT big of a deal that you cant give a guy a ride on your mount? think about it lol. your flying around on a giant sword or dragon and your mad cause u wanna give ppl rides? its a little silly:P
  • Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Oh no x__x;;

    Necro'd...
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  • Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Wow. First point, necro.

    Second point, I remember reading this thread...b:surrender
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  • Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Wow. First point, necro.

    Second point, I remember reading this thread...b:surrender

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  • Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    /inb4lock



    DAMN YOU NERCO PEOPLE!!!!!
  • Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I don't think it's sexist in favor of either gender. I was helping two people do chest of trials, a man and a woman. At first I tried to teach them, but it didn't work. So I carried the woman, but was forced to abandon the man.
    On the flipside, I got the nice lady (a level 4 wizard) into the faction I'm in, helping it grow and benefiting me.

    Men are allowed to help, women can be helped.


    Now, I'm not saying I wouldn't have wanted to be able carry the man too. All I'm saying is, it depends on what you want to be doing which one is better off, and is therefore a judgement call rather than sexist as far as gameplay is concerned.


    I can understand that the meaning behind it would be an issue, but it doesn't overtly benefit either gender
  • Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It be a double....mayhaps triple necro now?
    b:puzzled
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    A funny topic, lots of useless QQ and a terrible necro.

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  • Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i think it's reached it's 4th necro :/
  • Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I don't have to tell you that children are playing this game. And you are giving them a very wrong message here. Its very crucial that this issue be fixed. We are not living in the dark ages after all are we?

    Yea yea, while instead killing people around is a nice message b:shocked

    This MMORPG is based on CHINESE MYTHOLOGY and CHINESE original way to think, where:

    -Guys are the gentleman that can carry girls to different places, not viceversa.
    -Marriages are not homosexual
    -Venomancer are a strict gorgeous-woman class wich uses charming abilities to tame pets and humans.
    -Barbarians brings the power of the greatest warrior: the white tiger, wich has a great meaning in chinese mythology. He is the guardian and protector of the race, and he must be male.

    THIS is how chinese mythology was and this is how PWI is and always will be, if you dont like the fact that female cant have same roles than the male has, then u should just go and try another mmorpg.

    Im not against homosexuals and im not pro-sexism, i just told why PWI is like it is and why it will never change.
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  • Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    How many times is this thread gonna get necro'd? Yeesh! b:shocked
  • Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Yea yea, while instead killing people around is a nice message b:shocked

    This MMORPG is based on CHINESE MYTHOLOGY and CHINESE original way to think, where:

    -Guys are the gentleman that can carry girls to different places, not viceversa.
    -Marriages are not homosexual
    -Venomancer are a strict gorgeous-woman class wich uses charming abilities to tame pets and humans.
    -Barbarians brings the power of the greatest warrior: the white tiger, wich has a great meaning in chinese mythology. He is the guardian and protector of the race, and he must be male.

    THIS is how chinese mythology was and this is how PWI is and always will be, if you dont like the fact that female cant have same roles than the male has, then u should just go and try another mmorpg.

    Im not against homosexuals and im not pro-sexism, i just told why PWI is like it is and why it will never change.

    I think you are arguing with a ghost...
    Check the date of the first post.
    OP left the place long ago,
    diggin' up ol' threads is a necro.
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    - When will we get new content? QQ
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  • Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Yea yea, while instead killing people around is a nice message b:shocked

    This MMORPG is based on CHINESE MYTHOLOGY and CHINESE original way to think, where:

    -Guys are the gentleman that can carry girls to different places, not viceversa.
    -Marriages are not homosexual
    -Venomancer are a strict gorgeous-woman class wich uses charming abilities to tame pets and humans.
    -Barbarians brings the power of the greatest warrior: the white tiger, wich has a great meaning in chinese mythology. He is the guardian and protector of the race, and he must be male.

    THIS is how chinese mythology was and this is how PWI is and always will be, if you dont like the fact that female cant have same roles than the male has, then u should just go and try another mmorpg.

    Im not against homosexuals and im not pro-sexism, i just told why PWI is like it is and why it will never change.

    Ok, two things I caught in that text: 1)Kirin? So what, the giant Kirin rides we have are what? Dragons, right? So if their white tigers where so important, then why are the Kirins dragons instead? 2)Metal? So if the tigers should have the metal element, then why is it that the winged elves have this element instead? Shouldn't the winged elves be associated with the fire element since they fly and so do phoenixes, which are also the holders of the South? And then shouldn't humans be water since they live in the North? Players shouldn't even have the wood element then, since Archosaur is in the East and there are no starter cities there. Oh, and now with the Tideborns, shouldn't THEY be fire since they now hold the South or something?

    My point is, the game isn't ruled by mythology, it's also ruled by what gaming/gamers need. Like, you couldn't just ban the wood element from players since there are no East starter cities. And we couldn't all be riding on only giant tortoises, white tigers, red birds and dragons. I'm also certain that the reindeer have nothing to do with their culture/mythology, deer yes, reindeer no. Including polar bears, panthers, DINOSAURS(raptor ride and Archosaur), Hell Hounds, giant flying swords, mantas, fish people, elves, blood thirsty monsters, gothic clothes, punk clothes, swimsuits, vampire clothes, the western(aka: American, English, French, Italian, German, etc) dresses.

    And of course, the basic teachings of Buddhism, where you're taught to not be obsessive with earning material things *cough*money*cough*, and also how you're supposed to always take other people's ideas into consideration. Not to mention that the whole point of the game runs down a big teaching in their culture: pacifism. If you don't know what that means, google it. the whole point of this game is to kill monsters and become stronger right? Ask any real Buddhist and he'd tell you that killing this is against their religion/culture(like most), let alone killing to gain personal things.

    In the end, this giant speech that wasn't meant to be this big, is summed down to this: If they've twisted the culture/mythology this much already, then it wouldn't hurt to change it a little more, especially if this twisting it bringing in just a little more of the mythology. Wolves, rabbits, pandas, deer, lions, and cats are all part of the ancient Chinese mythology. If you've brought in a small part of the animal part of their mythology, then you should bring it all in.

    That, I do not agree with the "Chinese mythology" **** I think you mean "lazyness".
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  • Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    That, I do not agree with the "Chinese mythology" **** I think you mean "lazyness".

    Call it **** if you want, but chinese mythology created this game and chinese belief will keep it sexist as long as this game is alive. I'm not sexist, that's just how it is.

    As I have said before, if you do not like the game handles genders, then go to china and protest. I promise you will not be killed/thrown in jail.


    (How many ****** times is this thread gonna be necro'db:shockedb:shockedb:shocked

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  • Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    1.Double Necro LOLS
    2.Hamsta's post count is 7331 now.
  • Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I know that Venos should be female and Barbarians should be males, but why not have a strong female class? No matter how hard I try, my female Blademaster will never be able to beat the **** out of things as good as a Barb.

    Though, I do think fashion is more of an issue. Women are fighters, not hookers, and should be dressed accordingly. I mean, a woman in 6 inch stillettos swinging a hammer around? I DON'T think so.

    As for single gender classes, they did it again guys! Stoneskins are only male. So much for strong female characters again :p
  • Posts: 9,807 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Stop necro'ing this thread plz


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