The +1% crit arrow
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Why would you grind for hours to get them anyway? I made 100 of them on my second try at the craftsman. Does that mean I made a check for 1 million coins?
BTW, I dont think its an exploit. If it was the dev's surely would have caught on by now. I mean all through the x-mas event there were many many many veno's, barbs, and humans using bows to kill snowmen. If it was in fact an exploit im sure they would have noticed. Besides, Archers can equip melee weapons and wands. Why shouldnt the other classes be able to equip bows?0 -
MoonRider - Sanctuary wrote: »Exactly my point.
so it DOES make a difference.
back to the subject.
why should all other classes get an extra 1% crit, but not the archers?
It's not overadvantageous for the other classes. Not to mention archers -can- still use those arrows, as well as various other types of shot.
Maybe we should QQ the unfair advantage of Elite sling ammo having -5% channeling and nobody else can use it.
Bottom line is, deal with it? Lol.0 -
MoonRider - Sanctuary wrote: »Exactly my point.
so it DOES make a difference.
back to the subject.
why should all other classes get an extra 1% crit, but not the archers?
1str makes a LOT more difference than 1% crit.
str/dex/mag/vit has concrete measurable advantages in the forms of more HP/def/atk. And its in effect with every time you attack or get attacked.
1% crit on the other hand is like lotto and we all know how many times we win that.
About the real topic: Sure its a glitch to use the bonus from an arrow in conjunction with a non-bow weapon. The fact is that the "glitch" has such a small impact on gameplay that it doesnt warrant an immediate fix nor does it imbalance the game for anyone. nor is it only restricted to only one class/race anyone and EVERYONE can do this. Its like you go outside and swear at all the other ppl wearing clothes while u have to be naked and cold. Just go back into the house and get dressed :P0 -
I don't know about you, but I'd much rather have +1% crit than +1 str on my caster.Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »1str makes a LOT more difference than 1% crit.
str/dex/mag/vit has concrete measurable advantages in the forms of more HP/def/atk. And its in effect with every time you attack or get attacked.
1% crit on the other hand is like lotto and we all know how many times we win that.
About the real topic: Sure its a glitch to use the bonus from an arrow in conjunction with a non-bow weapon. The fact is that the "glitch" has such a small impact on gameplay that it doesnt warrant an immediate fix nor does it imbalance the game for anyone. nor is it only restricted to only one class/race anyone and EVERYONE can do this. Its like you go outside and swear at all the other ppl wearing clothes while u have to be naked and cold. Just go back into the house and get dressed :P0 -
Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »Maybe we should QQ the unfair advantage of Elite sling ammo having -5% channeling and nobody else can use it.
sling and casting go well together in what world?
most skills have the weapon/physical attack as part of the total damage and slings are 10-15% weaker as theyre that proportion faster,not to mention youd eat that ammo very quickly0 -
Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »sling and casting go well together in what world?
most skills have the weapon/physical attack as part of the total damage and slings are 10-15% weaker as theyre that proportion faster,not to mention youd eat that ammo very quickly
The point wasnt weather they go well together or if it's practical or not. It was just something that other classes dont get. Wich in the end amounts to nothing.0 -
The 1% arrow does make a difference. Going from 1% to 2% doubles your chances for a critical hit. Now, if you add in the free Rank Ring that gives +1% crit and the Christmas Blessing, your critical rate is yet again doubled - all for a very small amount of cash.
Next you can start to purchase equipment that adds more % to your chances of a crit. That extra 1% from the arrow does make a rather big difference, especially when you raise your crit chance to a percentage where you have the odds of critting 1 in every 10-15 attacks all the while having only 5DEX.
Look at this from a PvP view: I sure as hell wouldn't want to be whacked with a critical hit from Blade Tempest, would you? Well, that little single arrow you're arguing to defend may very well have been the deciding factor in that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I'm not denying it helps, but I don't think it helps to a degree to imbalance anything, more specifically anyone can use it.0
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I use it on all characters but archer 1% crit big deal most classes have **** crit anyway if its a bug well they will fix in time if not enjoy + 1% crit on your toon remember 1 big thing - still in Open Beta so bugs are fine to find and use till they get fixed..0
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This game isn't in Open Beta. As soon as the first costumer pays for Zen, it's officially released. You can't call a game Open Beta when they're leeching money off you already.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
www . rochq .net0 -
So... How do you go about getting these arrows?0
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Zenpachi - Heavens Tear wrote: »So... How do you go about getting these arrows?
Try reading the whole thread before asking a question that's already answered.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
KungFoo.info
Empire Alliance0 -
I'll keep that in mind. I just didn't feel like wading through 8 pages of whining and bickering.Try reading the whole thread before asking a question that's already answered.
"Teach a man to fish," though, am I right? You've been very helpful.b:scorn0 -
Zenpachi - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'll keep that in mind. I just didn't feel like wading through 8 pages of whining and bickering.
"Teach a man to fish," though, am I right? You've been very helpful.b:scorn
If you want to know something, you'll have to work for it. It was easy enough to find in the thread. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
KungFoo.info
Empire Alliance0 -
Cosmos - Heavens Tear wrote: »The 1% arrow does make a difference. Going from 1% to 2% doubles your chances for a critical hit. Now, if you add in the free Rank Ring that gives +1% crit and the Christmas Blessing, your critical rate is yet again doubled - all for a very small amount of cash.
Next you can start to purchase equipment that adds more % to your chances of a crit. That extra 1% from the arrow does make a rather big difference, especially when you raise your crit chance to a percentage where you have the odds of critting 1 in every 10-15 attacks all the while having only 5DEX.
Look at this from a PvP view: I sure as hell wouldn't want to be whacked with a critical hit from Blade Tempest, would you? Well, that little single arrow you're arguing to defend may very well have been the deciding factor in that.
You forget, you can use all these things yourself, on top of your already High dex. Giving you a higher crit rate again. your choice of argument wasn't so great. Fact is, 1% crit amounts to squat overall. Complain all you want, you can gain the exact same crit gear as any other class, and can use a 1% crit arrow as well. There is no advantage worthy of discussion here.
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Saitada0 -
All I wanted to know was whether or not it was legal to do this.
xDBack.0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »It take 20 skill points to get that 1% crit. Just give us archers an extra 20 skill pts and we'll call it even. Yes, an archer out dmg an phoenix per shot. And yet a phoenix can kill an archer with 1 shot (bleed).
Funny, quite a few of the archers I kill don't die to the bleed unless I add in some spells and a debuff.
Maybe your garbage pve server has only incompetent players, who also lack proper gear? Hell, even I usually don't die to the bleed alone, and I have less hp than a majority of archers.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Zoe is so full of it, that he must be Karmelia.0 -
Zenpachi - Heavens Tear wrote: »So... How do you go about getting these arrows?
You craft them with your crafmanship skill or whatever it's called at the NPC that sells ornaments.
You make 100 arrows in one go and it's about a 10% chance that they will turn out to be the +1% crit arrows.
And since mats drops at a higher rate at midnight (ingame time) I think that crafting gets more successful at that time as well.0 -
Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »You forget, you can use all these things yourself, on top of your already High dex. Giving you a higher crit rate again. your choice of argument wasn't so great. Fact is, 1% crit amounts to squat overall. Complain all you want, you can gain the exact same crit gear as any other class, and can use a 1% crit arrow as well. There is no advantage worthy of discussion here.
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Saitada
1) I don't play an Archer. I've never had one above lv30. Don't assume that I do simply because of what I'm saying.
2) The whole point of the Archer class is that they rely on critical hits to pump out their damage and get quick kills. I fail to see why everyone insists on bringing up "But Archers use DEX as their primary stat anyway! It's fair because of this!"
Yes, they can use it just like everyone else, but do you have any idea whatsoever just how many arrows an Archer burns through in even 10 minutes alone? When you do, add up how much it would costs to continually buy sets of 1,000 (or more) crit. arrows when I've seen cat shops selling them for as much as 100k per an arrow, all because of this little bug and people abusing it.
I'd also like to say - To everyone whining that is isn't fair Archers can get a +1% crit whilst no-one else should: Alright then, since you can use the arrow, let's half your damage the second your target gets anywhere near you./end arguments
Delicious arrogance.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
If the developers had intended only archers to use the 1% crit bonus from these arrows, then bows would be class-restricted like slingshots and crossbows.
... It's not like 1% crit imbalances things. 1% isn't a lot by itself - most other class' crit will come from gear. Stop the whining and be grateful. If you're an Archer, be grateful that the devs don't decide to tone down your overpowered class.
Balanced game, will you people just shut up about the overpowered ****? everyone complains about archers and venos. who the hell cares can someone just answer the question?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Forsaken Sigs
Sajra - Level 31 - Hell Archer.0 -
Sajra - Lost City wrote: »Balanced game, will you people just shut up about the overpowered ****? everyone complains about archers and venos. who the hell cares can someone just answer the question?
That would be nice ^_^Back.0 -
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If you need an answer,write a ticket through support page.
Reply from support considering arrow bug:
It's not illegal as of yet. You can continue to use it. You will not be banned.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ThommiX - Harvest Leader
8x Barbarian
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Somehow I don't think the original developers had planned this, but this is the final reality:
The crit +1% arrow is not punishable.
If there were ever to be a change, the most likely decision is to nullify the arrows so they don't work if you don't have the proper weapon equiped. Until the day that happens, there is nothing wrong with wearing that arrow and enjoying its benefits.
It is not an argument about fairness and how the game SHOULD be set up.
This is simply how the game IS set up.0 -
Nayiro - Sanctuary wrote: »as the kids say:
"Pics or it never happened"
Rofl, you want a picture of the email i got?
Go ask yourself if its too hard to believe...
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ThommiX - Harvest Leader
8x Barbarian
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I do not believe the crit arrow actually does anything unless you have a bow equipped.0
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The crit arrow adds +1% to your overall crit rate...regardless of your equipped weapon...b:victory0
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Nomaad - Heavens Tear wrote: »The crit arrow adds +1% to your overall crit rate...regardless of your equipped weapon...b:victory
I have data that says it's a visual glitch.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Bitisu: "Bitisu here with a shocking devlopment!"
"my main happens to be a axe bm so lets talk to my alt,
Biti how do you feel about bows?"
Biti: "well, i use a bow because as a fist bm i find that the bow provides ranged damage equal to my fist weapon and that i can incorperate it into my weapon style"
Bitisu: "So have you heard about the supposidly bugged +1%crit arrow?"
Biti: "yes yes i have"
Bitisu: "so what do you think about it"
Biti: "What can i think, im a fist bm who lives on criting to make up for low damage, . . .I love it"
Bitisu: "have you heard that some ppl think it is a bug"
Biti: "O.O A bug, i hope it doesnt have poison because my cleric friend isnt on so i cant get a purify"
Bitisu: "no some ppl think its a in game cheat"
Biti: "really, i use it when i need to so i can get some crits cause i sadly have to use alot of strength and the crit is like 20 skill points so ill take 20 free skill points any day"
Bitisu: "so you dont think this is a glitch"
Biti: "nah, i mean even a simplton can figure out how to put a arrow in a quiver and if it makes you hit harder then so be it , you hit harder"
Bitisu: "i belive we have nothing else to say ladies and gentlemen"
Biti: "have a good night"
*bows*
there a self acted demonstration on how it isnt a **** its a advantage that can be taken advantage of
. . .
^^0
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