The +1% crit arrow
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Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »Crit Bm's are fist types and how many of those do you see running around at lvl 70?
Then "double" is very misleading. By that logic buying 2 lotto tickets doubles your chances to win the lotto -has that ever worked out for anyone?
I'm a crit veno build with 11% crit (including a super leet hax arrow) and even with a "whopping" 11% I don't really get nearly 1/10 critical hits.(Also on bosses critical rate seems 1/2'ed) To put any kind of faith in crit's you need to be around the 20-30% crit rate for it to be effective (I plan to get there at lvl 89'sih).
And guess which class gets that "Faith" rate with their standard build? (as in not having to sacrifice points for magic or anything else)
PS: ITS NOT CLERICS LOLMua - 8x WF - Conqueror0 -
exactly and 1 crit arrow equipped isnt going to get an archer very far :P
So all in all if they do decide its a bug and punishment worthy I'd just like to say thats ridiculous. Unless I missed some really obvious advantage somewhere.0 -
Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »exactly and 1 crit arrow equipped isnt going to get an archer very far :P
So all in all if they do decide its a bug and punishment worthy I'd just like to say thats ridiculous. Unless I missed some really obvious advantage somewhere.
um, isnt it obvious that it is a bug..0 -
Actually I have 100 Dex and I can equip and pretty good bow. Soo to answer your
question: "no" any class can use bows and arrows.
(yes you have a point its a bug but as I pointed out already its completely benine and makes no real difference)0 -
Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »Crit Bm's are fist types and how many of those do you see running around at lvl 70?
I'm an axe BM with 9% crit. Granted it's not much, it is still quite a bit for an axe BM :xBack.0 -
In any case, nobody has come forward to exclaim that they have killed 100 mobs with the arrow equipped, & 100 without, or better 1,000 each way for that matter (better not miss count lol).
I too have tried this arrow & it was before i ever seen any post about it. My personal conclusion is that it is not a bug or a glitch pertaining to the outcome of said characters abilities - it doesn't work.
The only existing bug about the 1% crit arrow is that it is counted in said characters statistics, & not effective in any type of combat.
However if I'm wrong, then the extra 1% would be significant for arcane builds, but only in PvP scenarios, namely TW.mmorpg is R'lyehian for: Innumerable quantities of grown babies
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well then if this is true then the + phys attack bonus that the arrow gives should apply also, but it does not.In any case, nobody has come forward to exclaim that they have killed 100 mobs with the arrow equipped, & 100 without.
I too have tried this arrow & it was before i ever seen any post about it. My personal conclusion is that it is not a bug or a glitch pertaining to the outcome of said characters abilities - it doesn't work.
The only existing bug about the 1% crit arrow is that it is counted in said characters statistics, & not effective in any type of combat.
However if I'm wrong, then the extra 1% would be significant for arcane builds, but only in PvP scenarios, namely TW.Back.0 -
where do i get such arrows?0
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Nayiro - Sanctuary wrote: »well then if this is true then the + phys attack bonus that the arrow gives should apply also, but it does not.
I'm saying that the "bug" exists for counting the 1% only..simply overlooked by dev's.
where do i get such arrows?
Mrbungle, they can be manufactured at just about any craftsman npc. It would be a bit more economical (if you're only going to equip just 1 on any other than an archer), to just look around archosaur cat shops, if someone has them, it will likely be in the name of their shop. (should be priced around 1-2k each). Otherwise, arrows are manufactured in lots of 100, & only about 1 lot in 10 or so makes crit arrows.
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If the developers had intended only archers to use the 1% crit bonus from these arrows, then bows would be class-restricted like slingshots and crossbows.
... It's not like 1% crit imbalances things. 1% isn't a lot by itself - most other class' crit will come from gear. Stop the whining and be grateful. If you're an Archer, be grateful that the devs don't decide to tone down your overpowered class.As a Guild,
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Strength in Unity,
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its faster to get the crit arrows droppped from a fb19 boss than to make them.0
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Serjah - Heavens Tear wrote: »its permanent 1% crit for all BUT ARCHER classes , since only archers use ammo to attack
so if u are an archer u are deprived of 1% crit
another IMBA thing about this lame game b:victory
Hardly, archers out dps a phoenix. That actually gives BALANCE, and its only 1%, quit crying.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Zoe is so full of it, that he must be Karmelia.0 -
Well.. if it isn't a big deal.. then why are you using it?
I meant like the christmas gift only gives 1% right? why cost ONE mil for that ****? or collect all the cards.. if you're above level 75.
After all it's only ONE % right?
by the way, unfairness doesn't have anything to do with BIG or small number. let it be 100% crit, or 0.001% crit.0 -
Ren - Lost City wrote: »Hardly, archers out dps a phoenix. That actually gives BALANCE, and its only 1%, quit crying.
It take 20 skill points to get that 1% crit. Just give us archers an extra 20 skill pts and we'll call it even. Yes, an archer out dmg an phoenix per shot. And yet a phoenix can kill an archer with 1 shot (bleed).1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
Okay, as the last post proves, there are actually more archers sad enough to give a damn about freaking 1%. I give up, enjoy your QQing.Mua - 8x WF - Conqueror0
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There is actually a lot more ppl (besides archers) that care about the 1% crit. last time i check, the 1% christmas crit is going for 900-1.2mil.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
the christamas blessing also prevents pets/mounts from getting hungry ie loosing loyalty - it doesn't actually feed them, but consider the cost of a scroll that feeds your pet, for 7 days the cost is 2 gold. You still need to keep pet food on hand in case it dies, but there is no need to keep feeding once full loyalty is reached. thus the expensemmorpg is R'lyehian for: Innumerable quantities of grown babies
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not really qqing but your free crit is equivalent of me leveling from 90-94, idc cause its 1 crit but it actually really helps robes cause their crit rate doubles
wouldnt mind 20 free skill points tho b:dirty0 -
I'm saying that the "bug" exists for counting the 1% only..simply overlooked by dev's.
where do i get such arrows?
Mrbungle, they can be manufactured at just about any craftsman npc. It would be a bit more economical (if you're only going to equip just 1 on any other than an archer), to just look around archosaur cat shops, if someone has them, it will likely be in the name of their shop. (should be priced around 1-2k each). Otherwise, arrows are manufactured in lots of 100, & only about 1 lot in 10 or so makes crit arrows.
p.s. remember to bring paper & a nice sharp pencil to keep track for us ok?
When I first started playing PW on the MY-EN Delphi server (Dual Sword crit build BM) I did the whole crafting thing and found I could make arrows at the Craftsman, so..I did out of boredom and ended up making the crit arrows. I equipped them and found that the crit % stayed even with the bow unequipped.
Did I ever think twice about it?
No.
I've made arrows since then, and out of probably 20ish sets that only two actually were anything but Wolf Fang Arrows. I actually use arrows and bows from time to time for various reasons (lol snowmen).Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »It take 20 skill points to get that 1% crit. Just give us archers an extra 20 skill pts and we'll call it even. Yes, an archer out dmg an phoenix per shot. And yet a phoenix can kill an archer with 1 shot (bleed).
Why should archers get anything considering they can use the arrows as well, they simply choose not to.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I really wanted to get out of this ridiculously long argument... b:cry
But this post just demanded a response...OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Why should archers get anything considering they can use the arrows as well, they simply choose not to.
Yeah, they can use the arrows. For just around a couple thousand gold per attack they sure can use the arrows. I mean using up a thousand arrows is only a couple million gold down the drain right? What's a couple million gold per half an hour of grinding compared to getting that 1% crit right?
Okay now I really hope this post wasn't serious. >.> Sarcasm intended in my post if it wasn't picked up.
Of course a couple million gold per half an hour of grinding is worth it to make it fair for archers again in terms of critical hit %0 -
Ok let me spell out what i meant with "1% doesnt make a difference"
1. archers need dex for dmg and they get more crit because of their class, end result is that its typical for an archer to get 20% crit rate at lvl 70'sih.
2. Other clases dont get 300 dex and wont get that massive crit boost therefore they will be stuck with 1-3%.
Can you see how 20% +1 means almost nothing just like 3%+1 means just as little.
To make it even more concrete, lets say you have 100 dollars, is 1$ a lot of money?
Or you have 1$.. is getting another 1$ suddenly making you rich? Even tho you doubled ur money u still cant buy anything. Same as 101$ wont let u buy a real house and 100$ just buys a dog house.
1% is just that.. almost nothing. so by itself the crit arrow is not making any significant change to anyone. You get crit rate from rings/cloaks/belts and amulets and TT80 weapons, NOT from one stupid lame 1% that only makes u smile a little wider but ultimately helps nothing.
Lastly the blessing feeds pets like someone else said, that in itself makes it worth millions because you dont need to buy arcane pet books for your rare pets anymore.0 -
Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ok let me spell out what i meant with "1% doesnt make a difference"
1. archers need dex for dmg and they get more crit because of their class, end result is that its typical for an archer to get 20% crit rate at lvl 70'sih.
2. Other clases dont get 300 dex and wont get that massive crit boost therefore they will be stuck with 1-3%.
Can you see how 20% +1 means almost nothing just like 3%+1 means just as little.
To make it even more concrete, lets say you have 100 dollars, is 1$ a lot of money?
Or you have 1$.. is getting another 1$ suddenly making you rich? Even tho you doubled ur money u still cant buy anything. Same as 101$ wont let u buy a real house and 100$ just buys a dog house.
1% is just that.. almost nothing. so by itself the crit arrow is not making any significant change to anyone. You get crit rate from rings/cloaks/belts and amulets and TT80 weapons, NOT from one stupid lame 1% that only makes u smile a little wider but ultimately helps nothing.
Lastly the blessing feeds pets like someone else said, that in itself makes it worth millions because you dont need to buy arcane pet books for your rare pets anymore.
I just wanted to re-enter to say THANK YOU. The archers will probably just respond with re-worded versions of the same arguments as they've done so far but it had to be said.
b:byeMua - 8x WF - Conqueror0 -
Yeah, my money's on that.Mua - Lost City wrote: »I just wanted to re-enter to say THANK YOU. The archers will probably just respond with re-worded versions of the same arguments as they've done so far but it had to be said.
b:bye
Also, since a lot of people don't seem to know this.
+1% crit rate does NOT mean that 1 more out of 100 attacks is guaranteed to crit.
+1% crit rate means that each time you attack, you have a +1/100 chance of doing double damage.
So a pure caster build will have a 2/100 or a 1/50 chance of critting each attack. How scary... not.
Meanwhile the classic dex archer still has a 20/100 or a 1/5 chance of critting. Something tells me there is no threat to them involved by this.
And now I'm leaving this thread until I see a logical argument for it being "unfair" even though the topic was opened to see if it was a GLITCH not if it was unfair. And unfair does not equal glitch. If you need an explanation for that, open a dictionary.b:bye RETIRED0 -
magicboy7111 wrote: »I really wanted to get out of this ridiculously long argument... b:cry
But this post just demanded a response...
Yeah, they can use the arrows. For just around a couple thousand gold per attack they sure can use the arrows. I mean using up a thousand arrows is only a couple million gold down the drain right? What's a couple million gold per half an hour of grinding compared to getting that 1% crit right?
Okay now I really hope this post wasn't serious. >.> Sarcasm intended in my post if it wasn't picked up.
Of course a couple million gold per half an hour of grinding is worth it to make it fair for archers again in terms of critical hit %
Why did you even bother responding to my post? Seriously, you fail at reading comprehension.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Mua - Lost City wrote: »I just wanted to re-enter to say THANK YOU. The archers will probably just respond with re-worded versions of the same arguments as they've done so far but it had to be said.
b:bye
Aren't you all others have the same arguments? over and over agian? (hypocrites?)
to put it short.
all you other classes are saying "it doesn't make a difference".
so.. why do you use it? hmm? if it doesn't make a difference?0 -
MoonRider - Sanctuary wrote: »so.. why do you use it? hmm? if it doesn't make a difference?
cause its freeeee!0 -
MoonRider - Sanctuary wrote: »Aren't you all others have the same arguments? over and over agian? (hypocrites?)
to put it short.
all you other classes are saying "it doesn't make a difference".
so.. why do you use it? hmm? if it doesn't make a difference?
Why wouldnt you use it. Using something is always better then using nothing.
ie) a mage had a choice between 2 helmets, exactly the same, just one had +1 STR on it... He would surely choose the one with STR, even though that STR wont even help him detrimentally. Same concept, better then having nothing.0 -
Serjah - Heavens Tear wrote: »the zhen skill clearly says "LASTS UNTIL PRESS ESC or CANCELED"
And the arrows clearly says "+1 CRITICAL"[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh0 -
OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Why did you even bother responding to my post? Seriously, you fail at reading comprehension.
Because your post was ridiculous IMO. It should be pretty obvious why archers don't "choose" to use the arrow.
Sorry if I offended you BTW.0 -
Mrbungle - Lost City wrote: »cause its freeeee!Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »Why wouldnt you use it. Using something is always better then using nothing.
ie) a mage had a choice between 2 helmets, exactly the same, just one had +1 STR on it... He would surely choose the one with STR, even though that STR wont even help him detrimentally. Same concept, better then having nothing.
Exactly my point.
so it DOES make a difference.
back to the subject.
why should all other classes get an extra 1% crit, but not the archers?0
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