Second Classes would be cool

cross-classing is a good idea for some games, but not pw. There's just not enough classes really to support it on a large scale everyone would enjoy, and the fact that getting your own class skills costs so much spirit/coin as it is, having a second class would just cost too much to support.

The game the OP mentioned have unlimited stat redistribution. You can also change your secondary class with a click of a button and also use templates to load different stat/skill combinations. There's practically nothing in the game you cannot re-do/undo with a single click.

PWI however is a traditional MMO with strict "builds." Secondary classes won't work here.

I saw this thread and I thought "This is going to be good". I'm all for this idea. It would be badass.

I don't like the idea at all.
Why?
the population of Venomancers would rise to 99.9% since everyone would choose venomancer as the first class, then build it up and cross class it to what they originally want, turning it into a super veno.

I'm already buillding a cross class venomancer of sorts, though how well it'll work....hah, yeah......(venofighter of sorts, a tanker sort of)

Maybe only specific cross classes, and only let them get certain crossed skills. There's ways around this kind of thing. We need some brainstormers here. I have the details to make it fair in my head but can't put it in words.. Lol..

By the way, how do you get those forum images that shows your class and level?

Barbarian Clerics ftw.

callam wrote: »

My opinion? This is just plain stupid.

1) As someone previously said, funding a dual class would be ridiculously expensive.
2) If dual classing WAS implemented, we would have a major rise in venomancer numbers, which are already large now, because they are so popular.
3) A barbarian/cleric class -> fail, imagine a lion with butterfly wings, thats my point, dual classing will allow extremely foolish combinations.

Blah, there, my take on this.

My opinion... There's no need to use the "stupid" word. Just say you do not agree.

Besides, the reason why RGP's where invented is that you may play a character that represents yourself (or your wish-you'd-be subconcious self). That's the real deal since they where played with pen and paper years before being implemented on computers. From that point of view multi-classing can only be "natural" to any RPG.

So, aside from coolness or not, it would make being able to distribute your stat points have some sense. Currently even if a second class is discarded, characters growth/desing is constrained by the lack of existing equipment adequate for a high-dex barbarian for example, and without those intermediate paths it makes little sense to be able to customize your character.

JFM

P.S.: The lion head and the wings are racial features, you would never see them mixed because of multi-classing.

juanpancho wrote: »

My opinion... There's no need to use the "stupid" word. Just say you do not agree.

Besides, the reason why RGP's where invented is that you may play a character that represents yourself (or your wish-you'd-be subconcious self). That's the real deal since they where played with pen and paper years before being implemented on computers. From that point of view multi-classing can only be "natural" to any RPG.

So, aside from coolness or not, it would make being able to distribute your stat points have some sense. Currently even if a second class is discarded, characters growth/desing is constrained by the lack of existing equipment adequate for a high-dex barbarian for example, and without those intermediate paths it makes little sense to be able to customize your character.

JFM

P.S.: The lion head and the wings are racial features, you would never see them mixed because of multi-classing.

This isn't a RPG game, its an MMORPG, which is different.

And stupid is the best way to describe this idea.

I think it's not a good idea too, but how would that be, for example:

Blademaster might later choose between
Paladin (Magic Swords)
Knight (Swords)
Crusher (Hammer or Axe)(I didn't know a better name)
Assassin (Fistwaepons)

bad Idea throws off the balance of the whole game...

Though I didn't start this thread, I wish to thanks those of you who posted a clever argument and not just some rant about it.

Specially, I totally agree with Yukkfoo saying "You may as well write up a whole new game to implement this in any balanced way"; my point was just not to insult the guys who said in the begining multi-classing would be cool.

The only thing I wish, and think could be easily added, is a decent bow for balanced str&dex characters. For "reality" and balancing purposes it could deal the lower level (of the weapon) min damage, the corresponding level high damage, have more of range and a slower shooting rate.

I hope the game designers like the idea and come through with it.
JFM

With that being said in the PWI system multiclassing is an epic fail cause it CAN'T work
why?
look at every build guild you use most of your points toward on main stat some others towards secondary and maybe one toward hp/vit.

~Bm's mainly focus is strength, then dex for accuracy and crit
~Barbs Str and Health to tank or Str Dex for damage
~Mages Magic and just enough strength for their weapons if they want their spells to do the most damage. maybe dex to wear light armor but then their spells suffer a little.
~Archers DEX and then strength

see how it matches up to multi class say a BM with a mage is stupid you might cast like one or two spells and then what your outta mana cause you dont have the mana pool to draw from. unless you take points from your BM skills then your a half nerfed BM and Mage,cause your stats are all over the place, two great characters combined into twice the suck.

I think this http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=104&d=1 says it best. Multiclassing doesn't work period cause you cant be highly effecient at anything other then being mediocre.

also who ever said RPG is made to play how you see yourself or whatever is wrong RPG may have been invented that way but it aint how they work. Cause I would like to play God and can't iprobably cause most systems for RPG require you to take advantages and disadvantages in some sense either individually or based on the class/race you pick. Some don't and you can place your stat points freely, but try to play like Neverwinter Nights play say a Ranger and just gives yourself tons of Int. good job you can cast wizard spells if you find the scrolls, but all the good spells aren't on scrolls oh and now you cant do any of your class skills cause you dont have the stat requirements.

Have fun casting color spray n00b.

Dreadmaul - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It would be cool if PWI could be like guild wars and get a second class. So we could be a barbarian and a venomancer at the same time, or a blademaster and a wizard, or a cleric and an archer, or whatever combo. I could go on and on, but I'm too lazy to write more than 1 paragraph. LOLb:laugh

You're too lazy to fully explain your suggestion, and likewise I'm too lazy to point out how ridiculous your idea is for a game like PW.

Go play Guild Wars.

Even though some of the posters that posted could have been nicer with their comments, Dual Classes would call for the game to be totally re-done.

If you want a game with Dual Classes, go play Guild Wars or Runes of Magic when it comes out.