Venos Overpowered

Kill them before their pet gets to you. Or kite them if they use bramble array

veno Crumble To Archers Power In Pvp At Lvl 60-99

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I agree. Venos don't live long at all when an archer gets to them.1 or 2 hits, 3 if they are lucky. No time to even use bramble hood. When an archer shoots a veno the veno just says b:surrender

lols archers are always pvp material in every single mmo i played

whysoserious wrote: »

Please, for the love of god, nerf their pet damage. I don't even want to pvp anymore because of this ridiculous unnerfed damage.

In my opinion, venos are the weakest race in pvp world. Pve and FB's are another matter, here they rule. Archers do the greatest damage so if you want to pk archer is the best character. I am also veno so......don't be offended veno lovers :P

Nerf paper, darnit! What about us poor rocks?

~A lmao'ing rock.

Oh come on!
What you say about how to beat a venomancer with a bm is just theories. Maybe the venos you've been playing against don't know how to pk someone. Its not just the pet.
Bramble hood + bramble guard + leech + Metabolic boost + Nature's grace + soul transfusion + an unnerfed pet damage.
what else do the venos need for pvp? If you can't use these skills to pwn any class (except for archers maybe) then you are a nooooob.
Archers have week spots though that can be exploited by a good player. Venos? oh my god.
Good at solo, good at fb, good at duels, a must in TW, money maker, they don't even need to use pots! What else does a class need, to be classified as overpowered?

Edit: Oh I forgot to name the skill belittle (vs bms and barbs) and just wait for the expansion. I've heard they'll get a 15 sec vulnerability skill!!

Venomancers are fine except that ripping bite is bugged.

Ripping bite isn't reduced by PVP reduction.

Fix that and they'll be balanced - until Phoenix release.

-_-
WTF does nerf means ?
and
i took a veno cuz of the pet, i was a cleric to begin with
though it's only 32 and deleted him xD
and .. wizards aren't that good with me
clerics are
thier heals are about 2.2hits so why don' the GM reduce them a bit
yea right
every class has his good and bad points
b:bye

Well yea sure, while you're at it

1) use magic on bms and barbs!
2) use physical attacks on robe wearers
3) use your stuns
4) omg wtf why can't you beat any class?

Well again, of course that sort of advice works, and is generally the strategy most people adopt.

Furthermore, "nerf x class" doesn't really mean anything. Lets be more specific.

The problem is, how are you going to catch a veno?

If a veno has a heiro, you're basically screwed. Their soul transfusion means they have 2 hp bars. If you can't spike ~2.5x their base hp in 10 seconds, just give up. Soul transfusion does even take a spark, it takes -up- to one spark. First suggestion:

1) make soul transfusion actually require 1 spark

Now venos have the fastest base run in the game with summer sprint, the only classes that can catch them with temp buffs are bms and archers. But how do you hold them in place? Stuns you say.

Well, if you're a bm, unless the veno is blind, they'll throw up a bramble hood, and you'll just twiddle your thumbs for 15 seconds. Oh but wait, you wasted your cloud sprint and tiger leap just to get to her, now she has 15 seconds to run away. Hmm. Good luck keeping this up while you're bleeding.

If you're an archer you might have a chance, if you can stun them long enough. 2 stuns + those thunder skills, she'll probably die.

If you're a wizard, you're doing piddling damage to the veno, who can just get close, wail on you with fox skills, and you're dead, if her pet hasn't killed you first.

If you're a cleric, i do believe you actually have a chance. Plume rips through their def, and your seals are great.

barb, i have no experience with, so go figure. i don't think you can catch up to a veno though.

veno vs veno, i guess they'd just fox form and wail on each other.

so we have, archer, cleric > veno > bm,barb,wiz

thats not actually too bad?

The main thing i think people have problems is, when you're fighting a veno, you're not fighting one person, you're fighting 2. and both have scary dps, and are blazingly fast. they can kite you forever, pet or veno.

I have a question, how hard is it to kill the pet? Basically if you kill the pet, the veno has to run away. They can't res it in time, and even if they have spares, its still 6 seconds to summon another. Veno dps isn't nearly as good as archer or cleric, and they're not as tanky either.

I think, therefore, there need to be 2 changes.

1) soul transfusion should take 1 spark.
2) pet bleed should be subject to fixing. Thats just blatantly broken.

What does everyone think?

EDIT: proofreading.

I would say lower the pet damage in pvp and it will be a good step forward to balancing them.

I dont mind the veno dmg to much although they are definatly he easiest class

The thing i dislike is there Debuff spell... its just so danm cruel

U see im a cleric and i more or less only buy buff spells and due to this venos make me look nice and weak.

I dueled a veno and they just kept removing my buffs....
This was made harsher by the fact that they were using my buffs anyway ^^

its always bad to get beaten by your own buffs ^^

I think the cooldown time on Debuff should be long like a few minuits instead of the short time that it is^^

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

While you are at it, may as well nerf archer damage as well because they hit me too hard, and wizards hit too hard as well so nerf that too.

Get the picture? Don't be selfish because a class can beat you.

Totally agree nerf them all let GMs sort them out b:laugh