Where's yer manners?

As soon as someone demands that I heal them, the only response they get is a resounding "feck off". Same goes for not typing properly.

Honestly, you're only treated like a slave if you let yourself be treated like a slave. Stand up for yourself, healmonkey!

I always treat clerics with respect, I believe the reason why so many people shy away from clerics is because they don't want so many people to rely on them for healing. Especially when it comes to FB dungeons.

Clerics in this game seem to be awesome overall, there's been a lot of times where a cleric would come out of nowhere and buff me. I also was buffed with reflect from venos a lot as well.

So the least I can do is show them respect. I've met a lot of nice people on this game especially clerics, so I'm not too stuck up like othesr to show them some respect.

Oh A massive thanks to all those random buffs I suddenyl have, there have been so many times I have been playing, checked my email and checked back after somethign I was bashing is dead to find I have reflect on. I always feel bad I never see who and havent been able to say thanks >.<

Yeah to all clerics. From now on if you decide to buff me let me know that it's you that did it. I always have a habit of thanking the wrong person or not thanking the person that buffed me at all because they're already gone lol.

I will normally throw a shout up on normal chat asking for a squad invite if I see some one killing things I need killing.

Though i tend to do it and let them kill while Ill kill just near by since I almsot always will set the party to free take, I get annoyed when its on random and the otehr person is getting 80% of the items because they just wont pick things up because they know they will get it if I do.

"If you say plz because it's shorter than please, I say no because it's shorter than yes"

We can talk about looting manners?

well this game is not designed with the NECESSITY of cleric for grinding..
in another game clerics were..you couldnt grind without one, soloing was suicide without cleric buffs...
cleric buffs were proportional to "INT" with a know max cap from having +10 int equips and max grade gems.. man people got picky and buff beggy after a while on server, id see a lot of clerics get dismissed for haveing **** buffs., which was understandable with the design of the game with the strive to attain 100% dodge and min damage take
even with equipment max refined (glowed liek a $%# lightbulb) all max grade gems and yes of course max INT you wouldnt get respect from a lot of people..

a lot of these problems are based on game design, not the community per say.

fortunately not so much a problem here from what ive seen :]

spudfuzz wrote: »

I just wanted to make a post asking the community on their opinions of a subject which was a big issue in my old mmo. No need for flames here.

In my old mmo the buffing/healing class was abused really badly. We were ordered around like slaves, demmanded buffs/heals no matter where we went ( some of us went to great lengths just to hide the fact we were healers) If we didn't have the desired equips our partners wanted us to wear then tough luck, however these eqs cost over 45mil and our partners hardly ever shared drops..so how did they expect us to come up with that money?

Heal/Support classes are treated like a sub-servant in almost any game you walk into. Especially in games with any amount of PvP involved. "WHERE WAS THE FKN HEAL?"
That typically begins into the downward spiral into healer-induced-madness where they stop buying their heals (mainly their res) just to spite each other. It's a hilarious progression.

spudfuzz wrote: »

What im trying to get to here though, is that in my old mmo..should they even have bothered to say 'please' it was plz/ pl0x/ pliss/ pz/ ples....anything but please. What gets me is, yes even though it's an online game and we abbreviate alot of words to make way for faster typing..

Is it really that hard for someone to spend like 1.5 seconds or more to type a few extra letters when asking for something which they receive for free with nothing given the cleric?
I mean just a little more time to show respect to the cleric for going out of their way to buff that person?

I don't think it's a matter of not spending the time (although with the AOL generation, this has typically become the place), but rather the 'gold standard' of chatting consists of nothing more than trendy and cliche catchphrases like you're learning a second language. I don't mind the short-hand more than I do the general banter about people being "dum" or "your stupid"; it's those people that drive me up a wall and wonder why abortion isn't carried over until the age of 7.

spudfuzz wrote: »

Most people on my old mmo thought it was just ridiculous with things said such as "it's online gtfo if you don't like it" and ect ect.. But 90% of the healer population felt it quite rude when someone tried to use an abbreviated manner on them. Either we demmanded they spill the full word or they got nothing. This mainly stemmed from the fact we were treated so bad there and this was the time where we felt we had some sort of power over them.

Clerics are treated pretty well here but i'd just like to know what the majority of you think on this. Mature answers only please.

the whole "its just a game" and "if you don't like it gtfo" thing is typically used by either extremists/elitists to counter-point excessive whinging, or just people that have no real arguement to hold themselves on and use that as a failsafe card acting like it's the end of a discussion.

That being said. Clerics in this game are a very strange breed. This game is very solo friendly (probably to the point where if you group you're actually HURTING yourself) up until the 60's, outside of FB's and Cultivations, which higher level players would help you with anyway. So you actually get enforced to level bare-minimum healing talents and instead maxing your core nukes and buffs until such point as you get into a guild and you're in the 55+ region where cleansing and healing abilities take a bit more spotlight. That doesn't mean you *have* to do that, though. I've read things about Clerics that never even got a rank1 res or heal because of the mindset that "Once someone knows you have it, they'll ask you for it".

So there's a lot of flexibility, just know it's very costly to play the class and you have to build your character around whether you're playing/grinding by yourself or with groups.

I agree that it would be nice for people to use at least more than just "buff plz". I tend to ignore the people that think two words constitute a courteous request, though on the other hand I've been known to buff people then follow them and heal them if I have nothing else to do if they used a complete sentence, ie "could I please get some buffs?".

Buffing someone isn't the big problem I have though. My big pet peeve is when people seem to think that they need to yell at you to heal, in caps, generally spelled wrong, because they're at 50% health and you haven't gotten to healing them yet, despite the fact that you're the only cleric in a group where everyone needs to be healed, you don't have blue ball, and that one whiner refuses to use their own pots. Sorry, turning into a rant at this point, but that is the fastest way to get on my bad side. Also, hate when you're partied with a couple that is "mariried" in game, and the wifey yells at you to heal her hubby... *eye roll*

I never ask for heal or buffs but I always say thanks if I get them randomly, I used to mostly play support or tank jobs in whatever MMO so I know what it's like to get treated like a healbot. I never let people get away with it myself though, at best I'd ignore them but if I was in a bad mood already I let them have it.

Of course, I'm also notorious for yelling at the healer in whatever group I'm in for running off to go res someone else that's spamming for one in shouts.....they should've thought about partying with a healer if they wanted to be taken care of.