New TW scheduling
Seilen - Heavens Tear
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Can someon explain me why was this week TW scheduled at 19th 11pm sunday ?
It was bad enough being it at that time on friday for european players as its early morning for us, but this new schedule is EVIL. Its monday morning and that meand 99% european player cannot parcipiate as we are either going to work or school.
Ok little corection, TW seems to be on all 3 days 17,18,19 but our is 19 and most of us cannot be there
It was bad enough being it at that time on friday for european players as its early morning for us, but this new schedule is EVIL. Its monday morning and that meand 99% european player cannot parcipiate as we are either going to work or school.
Ok little corection, TW seems to be on all 3 days 17,18,19 but our is 19 and most of us cannot be there
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TW time is either on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. Perhaps it's just because you never had a TW placed on Sunday before.
I agree it is kind of unfair for players that aren't in the same timezone, but what can you do?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Same, I can't make it to a Monday 2 AM (EST) TW, because i have school in the morning. Totally not fair that we're hampered this way. We had tried to schedule it for tonight, since it's the weekend and the late night won't matter to most players, but apparently that didn't work. Why not?0
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Well then let us chose date and not select only date we cant, thats not only unfair its wrong.Maiya - Lost City wrote: »TW time is either on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. Perhaps it's just because you never had a TW placed on Sunday before.
I agree it is kind of unfair for players that aren't in the same timezone, but what can you do?
I can understand that system can move date if there are more wars for each guild, but we are atacking emty land so why to move it to sunday ?
If it offer us sunday we would decline to participate as its waste of money if noone can play at that time.0 -
Sorry, this post to put a face to that previous post0
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I'm not in Europe; I'm in USA, Eastern Time. But I think Sunday night at 11pm PST is late even for those in that time zone. Don't the GMs have to work Monday morning, too? Why are the times so late in the day? Are the other servers' times earlier each day? The time scheduled for our Territory War is ridiculous. Can this be changed? Who do we contact to inquire about this?
It's not just unfair; it's absurd!0 -
So how about as default put Friday, if there is conflict (ie more then 3 wars for guild) move it to next day whitch is Saturday. Eventualy if Friday and Saturday not possible use Sunday, but i realy doubt there will be more then 6 wars for one guild at a time.
There is absolutly no reason put scheduling for only 1 war to sunday.
Can we get some comment from GM or Admin team ?
And btw it supose to be 8-11 pm not 11pm-02am acording to info on website.0 -
The GMs have to work in the morning, but they are halfway across the world, 11 PM PST is the afternoon for them. There should only be two times for TW 9:00 AM saturday PST and 9:00 AM sunday PST... a good 12 hours on either side of those times that people are generally free from work/school0
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Aramil - Heavens Tear wrote: »The GMs have to work in the morning, but they are halfway across the world, 11 PM PST is the afternoon for them. There should only be two times for TW 9:00 AM saturday PST and 9:00 AM sunday PST... a good 12 hours on either side of those times that people are generally free from work/school
I thought the whole idea for this server is that the GMs are not halfway around the world (I assume you mean Asia here). 11PM PST should be nighttime for the GMs too?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
The server is located in California I believe. But I doubt all GMs are from that region.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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I believe that TW starts at 8PM PST / 11PM EST. Somehow its all jacked up. During bidding last night it said that bidding closed at 2240 (which led me to believe I had till 10:40pm, I'm PST) but at 7:40 PST bidding closed. Yes the servers are in California, yes they are on PST but for some stupid reason it appears TW is EST. Someone correct me if im wrong.
I have my guild scheduled from 8-11PM PST on Sunday. If in fact the 2300 time is PST then PWI is really handing out a bad card to us. Its bad enough that I probably cant even get half my guild together for this timeslot (late night Sunday, cmon!) but if it's 2300 PST that's 11-2am PST and 2-5AM EST. If the latter is the case I will request the coin i bid back. Those time slots are unreasonable for a American Based game.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Illusion - Heavens Tear wrote: »appears TW is EST.
Why do people keep on saying this? What do people mean by saying a Territory War is Eastern Time? Its 8-11 Pst, 11-2 Est, 4am-7am GMT0 -
As a counter to the argument that people should get to choose when they do their wars, what would you do in a guild vs. guild war? I'd assume the guild that got to choose would choose the most inconvenient time for the enemy guild to fight in, which is probably exactly what would happen.
Secondly, the war times have been set in stone from the first versions (so I've heard). The only difference here is the server timezones. There is a reason why people from the same geographic areas prefer to play with one another, and that reason is not just that they happen to like their neighbors in the region (let's face it, this isn't usually true), but because of the way time zones are structured.
You could petition the game developers to randomly switch between Asian, European, and American time zones for TW, but this would **** more people off overall (and result in rapid restructuring of the map in favor of guild's with no lives), and **** up times for other events even more (like the bugged up crazy stone quest).
I'm on the Heaven's Tear server in PST, and frankly I wish I could go to war at 11pm-2am EST. 8pm is when a lot of people have dinner and all...0 -
Naris - Heavens Tear wrote: »You could petition the game developers to randomly switch between Asian, European, and American time zones for TW, but this would **** more people off overall (and result in rapid restructuring of the map in favor of guild's with no lives), and **** up times for other events even more (like the bugged up crazy stone quest).
or you could just set the TW time at 10am-1pm PST, which would put the TW at a time accessible for everyone in the non IP banned world.0 -
markillian wrote: »or you could just set the TW time at 10am-1pm PST, which would put the TW at a time accessible for everyone in the non IP banned world.
You'll always inconvenience someone somewhere in the non-IP banned world somehow. Not to mention that you need more than one time per day to accommodate every single war.0 -
markillian wrote: »Why do people keep on saying this? What do people mean by saying a Territory War is Eastern Time? Its 8-11 Pst, 11-2 Est, 4am-7am GMT
People keep saying this for a reason. If you pull up your map in-game and look at the territory battle schedule most if not all battles are scheduled at 2300 this week (Heaven's Tear). That means TW is EST.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
you will inconvenience alot less people.
With the TW as they are now players in europe have to get up at (or stay up until) 4am or 5am.
If they changed it to 10am-1pm PST thats 6pm-9pm GMT.
It goes from being impossible for 99% of european players to being very possible.
And how would it change for NA players? It would be during the afternoon instead of at night. Alot of players from EST would be able to participate seeing as 1pm-4pm is much more convenient than 11pm-2am0 -
Illusion - Heavens Tear wrote: »People keep saying this for a reason. If you pull up your map in-game and look at the territory battle schedule most if not all battles are scheduled at 2300 this week (Heaven's Tear). That means TW is EST.
Ah I see I looked and I know what people mean. I agree wtf is up with that?0 -
markillian wrote: »Alot of players from EST would be able to participate seeing as 1pm-4pm is much more convenient than 11pm-2am
You couldn't be more right about that. This Sunday is our guilds (Shadow) first TW and we got royally hosed on this one. MOST of our guild is EST so probably only a 1/4 will be able to show.
Wish us luck b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
markillian wrote: »Ah I see I looked and I know what people mean. I agree wtf is up with that?
Who knows, 4 updates now and that stupid NPC named disabled is still looking for me...
They seem to be slow to fix anything..[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
markillian wrote: »you will inconvenience alot less people.
No matter how few players there are...
As long as there's a bug, people will exploit it.
As long as there's something overpriced, people will decry avarice.
As long as there's something inconvenient, people will make it seem like the biggest deal in the world.
As long as there's other people in the game, there's people who won't like them.
As long as there's world chat, people will complain about spam.
As long as there's people around the world, people will complain about time zones and language barriers.0 -
Naris - Heavens Tear wrote: »As a counter to the argument that people should get to choose when they do their wars, what would you do in a guild vs. guild war? I'd assume the guild that got to choose would choose the most inconvenient time for the enemy guild to fight in, which is probably exactly what would happen.
Secondly, the war times have been set in stone from the first versions (so I've heard). The only difference here is the server timezones. There is a reason why people from the same geographic areas prefer to play with one another, and that reason is not just that they happen to like their neighbors in the region (let's face it, this isn't usually true), but because of the way time zones are structured.
You could petition the game developers to randomly switch between Asian, European, and American time zones for TW, but this would **** more people off overall (and result in rapid restructuring of the map in favor of guild's with no lives), and **** up times for other events even more (like the bugged up crazy stone quest).
I'm on the Heaven's Tear server in PST, and frankly I wish I could go to war at 11pm-2am EST. 8pm is when a lot of people have dinner and all...
well if you have more then 1 war in guild then there can be reason to maybe move time of some to other day, but its mentioned that you have to even chose which war participate defend or attack new territory or do both or even 3 at same time if your guild is big enough.
But all wars scheduled to sunday are single territory attack all of them are on empty territory and none of them have any conflict with different war. Thus there is no logical reason (maybe excep make whole europe mad) to put them to this time.
90% ppl playing this game have it betwen 10pm on sunday till 11am on monday.
I would bet at least 80% of those have either work or school on monday morning and its for them if not impossible then at least realy hard to play at this time.
Working time in europe is quite often from 5 am so most of us just simply cant do it at this time .
b:angry
And anyway why is time for TW in EST and server time in PST ? Every single logical person would thin that scheduling is in same time as is server time.
So for our guild is currently throwing money on TW just big gamble if we have good chance to get time most of us cant play. Its just throwing money out of window just to get to try and eventualy loose them anyway.0 -
Naris - Heavens Tear wrote: »No matter how few players there are...
As long as there's a bug, people will exploit it.
As long as there's something overpriced, people will decry avarice.
As long as there's something inconvenient, people will make it seem like the biggest deal in the world.
As long as there's other people in the game, there's people who won't like them.
As long as there's world chat, people will complain about spam.
As long as there's people around the world, people will complain about time zones and language barriers.
wtf does your stupid list have to do with anything? Saying that some people will complain has nothing to do with the fact that a different time would be much more convenient for the majority of players.
I never said people wouldn't complain either.
post something that makes sense.0 -
markillian wrote: »you will inconvenience alot less people.
With the TW as they are now players in europe have to get up at (or stay up until) 4am or 5am.
If they changed it to 10am-1pm PST thats 6pm-9pm GMT.
It goes from being impossible for 99% of european players to being very possible.
And how would it change for NA players? It would be during the afternoon instead of at night. Alot of players from EST would be able to participate seeing as 1pm-4pm is much more convenient than 11pm-2am
b:victory
or maybe cn start at 20.00 EST 18.00 PST ->02.00 for european ppl...s late but better then 05.000 -
b:victory
or maybe cn start at 20.00 EST 18.00 PST ->02.00 for european ppl...s late but better then 05.00
One thing that a couple of our European players have done is go to bed really early, and then wake up for TW before they go to work in the morning. As long as we get the TW taken care of fairly quickly its not an issue. I'm not sure how well this will work out with pvp TW coming soon tough[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
wow u guys are real babies lol ( im gonna get flamed )
but honestly no TW will be perfect for EVERYONE. this is international and the time are set like that since the start.
if u europeans ( or asians for that matter ) is not happy with time zones just get the PW game that is based in ur area. ( pw malasyan for asian and i think there on PW-uk not sure ).
most free international mmo use PST, get use to it
but honestly no TW will ever be perfect for anyone, you think they are gonna change for 10 players that are not happy ? to make MORE people un-happy because they changed something people are used to.
this is international PW, not MY-country-time-zone-PW0 -
Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »I thought the whole idea for this server is that the GMs are not halfway around the world (I assume you mean Asia here). 11PM PST should be nighttime for the GMs too?
The Sunday 10pm-1am (-6 gmt) tw times are **** for both americans and euros, fix it.
The time should never be later than 4pm gmt -6 on sunday. This is really ridiculous and I guarantee is losing customers.
Stop licking bungholes, you know as well as I do almost your post is a crock and almost anyone can attend on a sunday at any time since few work weekends - but they pushed half of the world into a 5 am monday tw. Oh wait, I suppose you don't want working class people to play, you know, the guys who keep this game RUNNING.Augustburns - Lost City wrote: »wow u guys are real babies lol ( im gonna get flamed )
but honestly no TW will be perfect for EVERYONE. this is international and the time are set like that since the start.
if u europeans ( or asians for that matter ) is not happy with time zones just get the PW game that is based in ur area. ( pw malasyan for asian and i think there on PW-uk not sure ).
most free international mmo use PST, get use to it
but honestly no TW will ever be perfect for anyone, you think they are gonna change for 10 players that are not happy ? to make MORE people un-happy because they changed something people are used to.
this is international PW, not MY-country-time-zone-PW[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Zoe is so full of it, that he must be Karmelia.0 -
Augustburns - Lost City wrote: »wow u guys are real babies lol ( im gonna get flamed )
but honestly no TW will be perfect for EVERYONE. this is international and the time are set like that since the start.
if u europeans ( or asians for that matter ) is not happy with time zones just get the PW game that is based in ur area. ( pw malasyan for asian and i think there on PW-uk not sure ).
most free international mmo use PST, get use to it
but honestly no TW will ever be perfect for anyone, you think they are gonna change for 10 players that are not happy ? to make MORE people un-happy because they changed something people are used to.
this is international PW, not MY-country-time-zone-PW
no one is saying that there is a time thats perfect for everyone. There is however a time that is good for MOST players. And the time now sucks for everyone who isn't close to the PST time zone.
you think there are only 10 players who don't live in the PST time zone? Are you stupid?
You're right this is international PW, but the way TW times are set up its not very convenient for most players.
I guess you're not a baby cause you enjoy waking up at 4 am eh? You probably do it all the time right? Or you stay up till 2 am when you have to go to school at 8 am the next day, just for kicks?0 -
I don't supposed PWE will do anything about TW times because it doesn't bring any more money to them. Dissatisfaction is only important for them if it's a cash item involved.[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=17949001&dateline=1225562899[/SIGPIC]0
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Hard to wake up before work when TW start or at least still running when your work or school starting.Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »One thing that a couple of our European players have done is go to bed really early, and then wake up for TW before they go to work in the morning. As long as we get the TW taken care of fairly quickly its not an issue. I'm not sure how well this will work out with pvp TW coming soon tough0 -
Ren - Lost City wrote: »The Sunday 10pm-1am (-6 gmt) tw times are **** for both americans and euros, fix it.
The time should never be later than 4pm gmt -6 on sunday. This is really ridiculous and I guarantee is losing customers.
Stop licking bungholes, you know as well as I do almost your post is a crock and almost anyone can attend on a sunday at any time since few work weekends - but they pushed half of the world into a 5 am monday tw. Oh wait, I suppose you don't want working class people to play, you know, the guys who keep this game RUNNING.
Haha classic! I would have to agree. I am PST and 8-11pm still sucks for me. Yes I am working class. Yes I like to get to bed at a decent time for work. Yes PWI i cash shop (more than my gf likes).
To the guy that says TW doesn't bring in revenue is nuts. Do you seriously think the clerics and barbarians are going in without charms.... someone is buying those ya know...
Its not just the charms. Chances are there are users buying mats and other various items to make tw easier. Trust me, TW is a money maker.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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