Fed up of grinding quests (rant warning)

Tarabishop - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I also really do not understand why as we level higher the amount of mobs we have to kill increases. Sure we are getting more powerful, but the mobs get more powerful right along with us. Basically the game is just getting more and more tedious. 30 mobs is a reasonable amount to be made to grind, 40 is getting too much, 50 and above is just gruesome. I can see most people leaving this game at round about lvl 60 - 70. It's a shame because it has so much going for it.

You are pointing at what is, for me, the main problem of this game. Later, you'll get quests requiring you to kill 70, then 80 of the same mobs. Strangely enough, I'd have way more fun to have 3 different quests requiring me to kill 30 mobs than one requiring 80. Change is good. Yes it's still grinding, yet, if would already feel a bit less repetitive. But I wish they got better ideas than grinding quests >_>

Fighting the same mob over and over again makes it really boring. Like you mentioned, rewards aren't even better for killing more quests. Near the end of the lvl70's, normal quests give about 1-1.5% of a level. I heard (and I can easily believe it), that in the 80's, you won't even get 1%.

It's unfortunate, since this really gives the impression that the devs got lazy ingame for later quests. The exp gained is so ridiculous for the number of mobs to kill, that it's like they simply give those quests for us to kill time, instead of really having fun.

Mw fun endgame is helping people doing bosses and FB, doing HH, and in this version, doing TW. That grinding disguised as quests is not the slightly bit interesting ^^;;

I cannot speak for you, but I find doing the DQ quests a good way to help avoid the grind. I find trying to get 15 of an item is a little less boring than killing 70 of a creature, and sometimes you can combine the two because the quest monster you need to kill 70 of drops the DQ item you need (I always find killing monsters more satisfying when it accomplishes two quests at once).

I was thinking on the same lines of that - thinking oh crud I have to fight 40 of this monster and nothing else to do, but then I realized with the fact that you can select multiple quests at once you can kind of space the fighting of a solo type of monster out and be able to fight and move around a bit more. Though if at higher levels there are fewer quests, I would consider that to be a problem, like you were saying, 3 quests of 30 monsters is better than 1 quest with 80, but I think it's not because 80 is too much, it's because there would be more quests that way.

I'm only in the 30s now but it's a little disappointing to see that when I get higher up, there is going to be less quests. I really don't understand why these games have to be like this. Especially this game when there is a ton of quests to do while you are in your lower levels. Why do the quests have to slow down at the higher levels? Like someone else posted, this seems to be the case in alot of the F2P games. Last one I really played was Rappelz and the quests got soo freakin' repetitive even in the lower levels that it got pretty tedious after a while. I was really liking that game at the beginning and I like this game even more so far but it's tough to sit here and think that it's going to wind up being a grindfest once I get higher up. The one thing I saw people do in Rappelz is just start a new character once they got up in the 50s,60s, etc. just because there was more of a variety then instead of just grinding all day. I don't want to have to start a new character just to give me something different to do.

I know this game isn't run here by the original creators of the game so I don't expect much to happen with regards to this kind of thing but it would be nice. I know more people that don't like to grind then I do that like to grind.

*Wish list*

More variety of quests for higher levels...

this is a grinding game...what else u expected from this game?

Playing this for the first time and seeing how many quests you get for the first 30+ levels, I wouldn't have guessed it was a grinding game. I guess I've never really understood the point of grinding games, just killing mobs over and over and over and over again? Where is the fun in that. At least with quests it gives somewhat of a story as to why you are killing stuff. The game is considered a mmorpg which is a role playing game. To me that's playing a role in some sort of story but I'm sure it's not that for everyone I suppose. I'd never even heard of the game before like 2 or 3 weeks ago and found it pretty much by accident. I'm still going to be playing though to see how it is for myself. I've heard some mixed opinions that either it is a total grind or not that bad really. I'll try it out for myself and see. So far the game is still fun and if it ends up being a total grindfest at least I can say I tried it and found out for myself.

well im still a low lvl and already fed up with killing over and over i expected higher level quests to have more thought behind them and be more interesting to keep players interested whilst they level slower but by reading i guess its just gonna suk at high levels =/

I like grinding for reputation points, along the way you will pick up materials which you need. These are the right way to advance in this game, Haste makes waste.

I'm having the same thoughts and im a lvl 26. This is my first fantasy mmorpg and i decided to try this f2p game becuase i didnt want to pay a monthly fee to find out if i like the genre or not. I've been playing this game pretty steadily for the past two weeks and i have to say that so far i dont think this genre is for me.

I certainly wouldnt pay a monthly fee for to play a game like this where nearly every quest is really just "go kill monster x amount of times". it lacks any creativity, yet its still so addicting. And i think games like these are so addicting because you get into a mode where you think: Well maybe it will change after this quest, or the next one, or so on and so forth. At least this is how i felt. And so far i haven't really felt like the game has.

I will continue to play this because there are still features that i havent expierenced( FB's, TW, Guilds, PVP). hopefully those features offer enough variety to keep me going.

Also, are most MMORPGS(WOW, EQ etc) complete grindfests with terrible storyies that your character has no influence on?

What else do you expect from quests? I dont get it! You want to be like DQ? My god! You have DQ!!! You can do DQ one hundred times!! Its travelling trough the world, getting items (that in many cases will be harded to get since drops % lower when lvl difference is higher).
DQ= doing them fast way you spend a lot of money, so grinding or farming is necessary to have money, so now grinding have a reason.
DQ= need special items, so grinding has again a reason.
You can grind while you expect to respawn that mine that you need so much to make the perfect armor.

This game is not about grinding, is about having a goal ingame.
And being a MMO the story line cannot be changed, its almost impossible to affect the world itself, cause there are way too many players, its not like Fallout where onde decision changes it all, but that decision is only yours.
I think the game is fine, you just need a goal. Like grinding for money for Premium items, or mats to make wonderful weapons.

Goal is needed, thats all I need.

I read everything and I must say... wth?

@The Thread Maker
This is probably the only MMORPG that offers 3-4+ quests on EVERY level and you're still bitching about it? If you didn't know, by any chance, what PWE does is translating from Chinese to English, not remodeling the quests so they would look prettier for you. The game was designed to have quests like they currently are. You're not killing 70 mobs to finish the quest, you're killing them to GRIND on them AND earn additional experience when you're done from the quest you've just finished b:lipcurl

I think the main problem is: Are you antisocial and can't find a party or you're just in your passivity SAC (stand-alone complex) routine and can't bear for asking for help.

End of rant #2.

yeah nevermore its bad in flyff for that

Kyou - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I read everything and I must say... wth?



I think the main problem is: Are you antisocial and can't find a party or you're just in your passivity SAC (stand-alone complex) routine and can't bear for asking for help.

End of rant #2.

Yeah, reading comprehension FTL..... he SAID he has weird hours...

Also, those of you responding who are UNDER level 56, perhaps you haven't run into what he has yet?

I can't comment, just hit 50..so far, so good.....

Lol. I played an mmorpg where I had to kill 3000+ mobs to finish 1 quest, and you're sad cause you have to kill 40-50 mobs?

Point nr 1:Better things to do with his time than grind.

Quoted from OP.
"The point is, I'm fed up of the apparent lack of imagination being put into the quests. I'll probably log on two or three more more times and unless I get an FB run one of those times I shall probably quit. I have better things to do with my time than grind."

Point nr 2:Keeps getting harder to level.

Quoted from OP.
I also really do not understand why as we level higher the amount of mobs we have to kill increases. Sure we are getting more powerful, but the mobs get more powerful right along with us. Basically the game is just getting more and more tedious. 30 mobs is a reasonable amount to be made to grind, 40 is getting too much, 50 and above is just gruesome. I can see most people leaving this game at round about lvl 60 - 70. It's a shame because it has so much going for it.

Reply.

Point nr 1:I agree that there are better ways to spend your time then grinding.The exp for quests could be higher in order to avoid the tedious grind.However being this an MMO.And having Played Silkroad online(which is *10 more grind) I understand from those who presented the game to us points of view that they need to make some profit thus offering exp scrolls to levelup quiker.So having the system changed is not really an option.They provide the daily quests,the world quests,the fb's and so forth to try to balance it a little.And comparing to the MMO's out there that I know they've been generous.However they could do more events for instance to give an exp bonus so we could level temporarily quiker.If they do this often enough like every 2 months then It would certainly give more incentive to grind. :laugh

Point nr 2:

Pretty much same as above.Grinding is a part of every MMO,some MMO's decide to be generous and give worthwhile quests(with good exp/sp) and others don't.I think perfect world did a decent job overall with their levelingsystem.Not to say it couldn't be better.But it's not so bad we need to complain about it.Either u like grinding or u don't.If you don't no MMO is for you.If you want some advice on how to break the boring cycle sometimes just put your favorite music.Preferably a bit of fast beat music so it feels like a fast pace fun game while grinding.It sure beats the hell out of the pointless relaxed music PW provides.

~One