Game's names in general

anyandrell
anyandrell Posts: 64 Arc User
edited January 2009 in Suggestion Box
Well, I do know that this is originally a Chinese game.

I do know it is inspired in Ancient China.

But I also know it is a fantasy world, and it was first created for a Chinese pool of players. Now it goes international for a different language speaking pool.

While yes, it is somewhat understandable that the game owners of the international license want to make it different-sounding than the other world editions, from the marketing point of view sticking to the Chinese naming is a bad idea. Non-Chinese speaking people do not find it easy to remember names like "Ho Jensi" and "Tso Wo". PW-MY, being destined for a larger audience pool, saw that and tweaked the names to be more appealing and easy to remember for an international English-speaking audience.

Now when it comes to places names... they are mostly all right, but what in the world did you guys think when you named Ancient Dragon Castle "Archosaur"? Is it supposed to be an extinct species of dinosaur or a castle? Because that is what the suffix "-saur" means in English, "sauropode". And "Arch" as a prefix means "over, above", so what is the name of the place meaning? "Super-dinosaur"? How does that relate to the general idea of Ancient China? Wouldn't it have been easier to leave the "Dragon Castle", Castle of the Four Dragons (see the fountain in the middle) or something like this? In the effort of doing the naming as different from the other versions, this is quite a blunder.

And mob names? What in the world is a "kuhu"? In game it's a supersized bug. Is "kuhu" the word for "bug" in Chinese or something? I don't speak Chinese, of course, but in order to successfully play and remember names of mobs in this game are we supposed to learn Chinese? Because until further notice, most of the time when players ask abotu such and such mob, it's still "those red myriapodes" or "the purplelittle dinosaurs" and stuff like that.

Surely a mob and NPC -naming contest or poll or something done way before CB would have started would have been more efficient in coming up with names for this game that would have been appealing to the player. Just a simple marketing thing.
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  • jakelton
    jakelton Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I totally agree with all of this and had the same idea of allowing game players to come up with names in a different board.

    But good explanation of fall the facts. =)
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  • haze1771
    haze1771 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Lol pw malasia has better names than usa pw.
  • rena
    rena Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    haze1771 wrote: »
    Lol pw malasia has better names than usa pw.

    you can go back to MY-EN if you like...

    The names are pretty much set in stone, nothing will really change that now.
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  • doodeskader666
    doodeskader666 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I dont agree with it at all. Im dutch and play with chinese players for over 7 years in 1 guild, and i never had any problems remembering their names. And about the names of the mobs ! Np there to. I never really care how they called. I just remember how they look and what lvl they are. And i think the chinese touch adds something to the gameplay. It makes y feel like some ancient samourai. *ancient* like in *great*:)
  • elite
    elite Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    It's called ancient Dragon City, not castle!
  • destruction
    destruction Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Look...
    If you don't like it, don't play.
    Go back to laggy MY PW if you want, the one with the corrupted GMs, and botters, and filled with ****...
    They're just names...
    Plus, you don't need to remember NPC name...
    Just use the locater...
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  • anyandrell
    anyandrell Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    What's a "locater"? ;)
  • destruction
    destruction Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Locater...
    It's a map tool ingame...
    Uhhh it's the last button near your minimap I think...
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  • anyandrell
    anyandrell Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Sorry but you're wrong. That is the locator.
  • haze1771
    haze1771 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    rena wrote: »
    you can go back to MY-EN if you like...

    The names are pretty much set in stone, nothing will really change that now.

    Didnt ask for a change...just made a comment...stop being so defensive....just thought it was funny that a malasian server had more readable and english names than a USA server. Take a nap there cranky!!
  • rena
    rena Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    haze1771 wrote: »
    Didnt ask for a change...just made a comment...stop being so defensive....just thought it was funny that a malasian server had more readable and english names than a USA server. Take a nap there cranky!!

    What do I have to be defensive about, if you like MY better I am sure no one will miss you here. Just stating the fact, there been far to many threads on the same subject, its just becoming redundant. There is also no need to be rude.
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  • godcrusher
    godcrusher Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Its just some names, you don't even need to know what they mean. You can't put a name for an object and remember it? Archosaur are ancient species that are the closest resemblence to dragons to have lived... though ironically, closest to "Western" Dragons. As for the original chinese name, it was supposed to be Ancient Dragon or Ancestor of Dragon, but translated to Archosaur, weird.
  • haze1771
    haze1771 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    rena wrote: »
    What do I have to be defensive about, if you like MY better I am sure no one will miss you here. Just stating the fact, there been far to many threads on the same subject, its just becoming redundant. There is also no need to be rude.

    You are the one being rude...please show me anywhere I said I liked PWMY better...I said only I thought it was funny the names werealot more english based. You saying go back there, no one will miss you blah blah is making you the rude one...read the posts as they are and dont inturpet your own words into them.
  • anyandrell
    anyandrell Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    Don't get upset. The reply "go back to MY if you don't like it here" only shows that the poster actually doesn't have any arguments or ideas in order to keep up a discussion, and posts just for the sake of posting. Completely useless when it comes to the suggestions that the GM's were looking for when they made the suggestions board.
  • rena
    rena Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    anyandrell wrote: »
    Don't get upset. The reply "go back to MY if you don't like it here" only shows that the poster actually doesn't have any arguments or ideas in order to keep up a discussion, and posts just for the sake of posting. Completely useless when it comes to the suggestions that the GM's were looking for when they made the suggestions board.

    Yet these retort posts are so ontopic huh ? I would really think before you post so you dont make such a blatant contradiction. Its kinda funny to see someone accuse someone of doing something while they are doing it themselves.

    To be on topic no thanks to these two, dont expect for every name that is unliked to be changed, but it is good just give constructive critizism for GM to take in account. Especially if it all all in this thread. Its very hard for the GM to take in account everyone opinion on the subject when its scattered in twenty different threads like it was not to long ago. My opinion is that I find that overall the names are good (I am fond of Archosaur ) even though some monster names does come off odd. Nothing that bothered me all that much though, there always names that just never seem to fit.

    @Haze : A course I would be rude to someone who is rude to me. Especially sense you misinterpreted my original post as well. I was saying that if you liked the MY-EN names, they are till there and you can play that version. I do appoligies if you misunderstood, anything what I said after that was just out of annoyance from being misunderstood and the pure ammount of spam threads complaning about PWI not having same names as MY-EN. This been going on ever sense the forums been open with the names of classes -.- Anyways I do not wish to drag forum anymore OT so ill leave it at that :3
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  • Zethanal - Heavens Tear
    Zethanal - Heavens Tear Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Let them have there fun and let them add what they want to...
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  • Bows_Spirit - Lost City
    Bows_Spirit - Lost City Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    anyandrell wrote: »
    Well, I do know that this is originally a Chinese game.

    I do know it is inspired in Ancient China.

    But I also know it is a fantasy world, and it was first created for a Chinese pool of players. Now it goes international for a different language speaking pool.

    While yes, it is somewhat understandable that the game owners of the international license want to make it different-sounding than the other world editions, from the marketing point of view sticking to the Chinese naming is a bad idea. Non-Chinese speaking people do not find it easy to remember names like "Ho Jensi" and "Tso Wo". PW-MY, being destined for a larger audience pool, saw that and tweaked the names to be more appealing and easy to remember for an international English-speaking audience.

    Now when it comes to places names... they are mostly all right, but what in the world did you guys think when you named Ancient Dragon Castle "Archosaur"? Is it supposed to be an extinct species of dinosaur or a castle? Because that is what the suffix "-saur" means in English, "sauropode". And "Arch" as a prefix means "over, above", so what is the name of the place meaning? "Super-dinosaur"? How does that relate to the general idea of Ancient China? Wouldn't it have been easier to leave the "Dragon Castle", Castle of the Four Dragons (see the fountain in the middle) or something like this? In the effort of doing the naming as different from the other versions, this is quite a blunder.

    And mob names? What in the world is a "kuhu"? In game it's a supersized bug. Is "kuhu" the word for "bug" in Chinese or something? I don't speak Chinese, of course, but in order to successfully play and remember names of mobs in this game are we supposed to learn Chinese? Because until further notice, most of the time when players ask abotu such and such mob, it's still "those red myriapodes" or "the purplelittle dinosaurs" and stuff like that.

    Surely a mob and NPC -naming contest or poll or something done way before CB would have started would have been more efficient in coming up with names for this game that would have been appealing to the player. Just a simple marketing thing.

    maybe archosaur was build over a dino grave yard idk :p

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