Level Limit on Small Instances

Wouldn't work simply because of quests lines (yes, also at higher levels and rebirths) requiring to go into those areas.

This game could really use sync system, where your stats/level is synced to certain cap when you enter an instance. It would have to be voluntary but as such, it would have to have some bonus for ppl to do it as very few are doing older instances for fun but with some bonus reward ppl might be interested in it. I have seen it in another game and while ppl dislike getting thrown into lower level instances from dungeon finder due barely having any skills available they still roll on (The newbie dungeons) dungeon finder roulette due reward at times.

Bad idea imo.

Main problem in PWI is we need more people in the higher dungeons.
3-4 squads per day in DH and UP is nothing normal at the moment.


Cutting down low levels chances to grow quickly is sad for pwi's future.

I'm just here, sitting on my ****, cant pvp cause ill never be OP.
Cant PVE cause theres no squads.
Dont need the lower dungeons.

Only thing I can find to do is merching and helping people in hope that we eventually get them to our stage.

degeon0001 wrote: »

like if you want to kill qingzi for bh or some other reason, the players must be lvl 40-49 no higher level or lower allowed.

This is a very good idea and I support it and all, but the first Qingzi quest starts at 29. 19-20 for Tideborns(assuming Weapon Token is even still in the game)

I agree with Heero and coinsurus, but from a different perspective. I created a BM about six years ago. She was level 10 when I quit. She had learned to craft and, at the time, had pretty good level-appropriate crafted armor. When I came back to the game, she was standing at the Inn of the Eagle surround by now-level 20-something ladybugs and spiders. She quickly hit the option to transport to Celestial Vale. At level 10, you can get your starting glyph, but you don't get the starting armor. I also somehow leveled past the second free armor set. I had just hit level 20 and was standing in Konton waiting to see if there were other level-approriates almost ready for Snowgrind. In the area were: one level-appropriate that was AFK, one level 100 RB1 and a level 102 RB2. The RB2 offered to help. I thanked him for the offer and declined. I waited a few more minutes and then went in solo. In old level 10 armor and with an old crafted Sparrowmark bow it took me over an hour to pull out mobs and kill them one by one with my crafted fist. However, teaching pulling, whether it's genie pull, bow pull or veno pull used to be a very important lesson to learn. Learning the quick change from bow to melee weapon at the appropriate moment is also a very good lesson, a challenge.

So, I do agree that there should be a in-squad level cap for the lower caves. Having someone over 80 "help" by stating, "just click follow and I'll AOE one-shot everything while you make a sandwich" is too easy and unchallenging. In my opinion, this (and all the free fruit and pills) is why people get to 100 so fast and are bored. There would be more level-appropriate people forming level-appropriate squads around level-appropriate caves if the common misconception wasn't that you had to have someone thirty-levels-higher-plus in squad.

Another challenge that has been taken away is getting to Arch! Except for elves, everyone had to run to Arch, avoiding orange beasts. This unofficial "quest" was a fun challenge! The auto-opening of the Arch teleport and the tele-stone at 35 removed many challenges and again, makes it too easy. I'd guess that very few people, except Tideborn, start the Lochmur quests until they get the waypoint opened for them. For that matter, all of the high-yield (red) quests contribute to power-leveling, unchallenging boredom. The Old Chief quests in Hidden Heros used to be a challenging (and sometimes frustrating and time-consuming) quest for teen-level humans who couldn't fly. Now, just use your tele-stone to activate the way point, use your free flyer to autopath and fly back and forth while you also do the the crying lady and broken swords high-yield quest and boom, you've got two to three levels.

In summary/conclusion of this long-winded post: I like the idea of squad level-capped lower caves....kinda like the Goshiki and Tideborn army quest has to be solo. This would slow down the rate of leveling (maybe) and re-establish the caves as challenges (hopefully) and entice new players to slow down and enjoy (ideally).

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Tishalee, Etherblade, BM 74 (main and highest level)

Yes, other levels need these instances other than the level ranges for BH, they do need FBs, and the weapon token quests are still active. I have no problem with lower levels going in, it is the high levels (if they need for title quest, nuema, or whatever) that make a mess of the instances.

My suggestion: have a cap beyond which you can only enter the instance solo and can not go in if in a squad, so for example Qingzi I would say that it stays as is for up to level 59, but upon hitting level 60+ or RB you can go in solo all you want but not in squad, and similar for the other BHs.