Umm Question time.

Kaly would be nice if u could respond, thanks.

1. The reason we only getting 8 coins in JFSP now, is cause there is no NPC to talk too the the extra 2-5 coins? Is this meant to be like this?
2. Primals.. why can't we recieve star chart mats now.. Yes we got HFT, but when u said u were giving more chart mats in HFT.. I thought u would of meant other rooms, BESIDES boss rooms. Cause it be nice in HFT too get like even 1-2 exp on other rooms.. that aren't the bosses.. being 105x3. These exp pills do nothing.

With HFT its going to take ages to get you're chart to Lv50. With primals you knew it was a 100% 11 exp a day.. Unlike HFT its a lucky guess of how much chart exp you're going to get..

Please thoughts and feed back..

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  • greenfire312
    greenfire312 Posts: 269 Arc User
    Seconding this, @kalystconquerer#0876 - we know you're busy, but you also said you'd be looking into the FSP thing in particular. We need an update on this. Moreover, we need a general answer to the question about how F2P players are expected to farm any significant amount of coin if the FSP coin nerf was in fact deliberate (and again, "quality of life items" is not a feasible substitute).
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  • saikuro
    saikuro Posts: 35 Arc User
    I'm also concerned about bloods from primals. Not everyone has the primal skills maxed out. What was the point in telling us the rewards were increased when in fact they were taken away? If you've got an update I'm sure we'd all like to hear it. Thanks​​
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  • wildz2
    wildz2 Posts: 91 Arc User
    saikuro wrote: »
    I'm also concerned about bloods from primals. Not everyone has the primal skills maxed out. What was the point in telling us the rewards were increased when in fact they were taken away? If you've got an update I'm sure we'd all like to hear it. Thanks​​

    Bloods are still available through dailies, pretty much the only thing you can get from dailies anymore
  • forbiddenwords
    forbiddenwords Posts: 321 Arc User
    saikuro wrote: »
    I'm also concerned about bloods from primals. Not everyone has the primal skills maxed out. What was the point in telling us the rewards were increased when in fact they were taken away? If you've got an update I'm sure we'd all like to hear it. Thanks


    They increased the amount of bloods you can get from UCH and added barbaric bloods as well. Also lowered the boundary level required to enter, so it is easier now to farm primal skills and passives.
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  • shag1991
    shag1991 Posts: 31 Arc User
    @forbiddenwords i tink forcing players to go to UCH is a bad idea. UCH squads are hard to find and its a long instance. It became active when the new nuema levels came out but died again
  • wildz2
    wildz2 Posts: 91 Arc User
    shag1991 wrote: »
    @forbiddenwords i tink forcing players to go to UCH is a bad idea. UCH squads are hard to find and its a long instance. It became active when the new nuema levels came out but died again

    There is nothing forcing people to do UCH, bloods are still available.
    But for those who go, rewards are increased.
  • forbiddenwords
    forbiddenwords Posts: 321 Arc User
    shag1991 wrote: »
    @forbiddenwords i tink forcing players to go to UCH is a bad idea. UCH squads are hard to find and its a long instance. It became active when the new nuema levels came out but died again


    I'm starting to see UCH squads more frequently on my server now. Maybe adding barb bloods on the rewards list is making people interested again, since those are harder to farm than primordial bloods.
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  • npc15
    npc15 Posts: 230 Arc User
    Also you can get a ton of bloods from transmutation. I got enough for almost 2 def level passives from it on the first day
  • saikuro
    saikuro Posts: 35 Arc User
    wildz2 wrote: »
    Bloods are still available through dailies, pretty much the only thing you can get from dailies anymore

    They increased the amount of bloods you can get from UCH and added barbaric bloods as well. Also lowered the boundary level required to enter, so it is easier now to farm primal skills and passives.

    Ok see i haven't done any dailies, havent had the time with school/work schedules, just went off what i've seen here. Good to know you can still get them there. I also have never done uch so didn't know about those either. Thanks! But the other concerns that have been voiced are still needing attention. Hopefully Kalyst can find some answers for everyone else.​​
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  • holosmith#6921
    holosmith#6921 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Doing the main daily quest in UCH and elemental disaster quest at the same time just once you'll get 13 primordial blood OR 6 barbaric blood + 1 primordial blood, daily. Thats really worth it + the usual primal dailies.
  • kalystconquerer#0876
    kalystconquerer#0876 Posts: 1,421 Perfect World Employee
    Hello!

    1. This looks to be deliberate, however, they did ask me for the NPC names again and I haven't received an email status back about the reason why they asked for those NPCs. A thought occurred to me about this however, so I'll open up a new email thread with the devs...
    2. Primal changes were deliberate, but the patchnotes were not entirely clear on these changes. Here is what CN provided for us -

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    If there is some sort of deviation from the table they provided us, please let me know!

    I saw the changes to HFT, but due to the stigma from the last time anything related to it was ran, I was unsure the activity levels inside that instance. There are more way to get some of the Starchart items and those events should start rolling out within the next few months so stay stunned for that!
  • greenfire312
    greenfire312 Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Hello!

    1. This looks to be deliberate, however, they did ask me for the NPC names again and I haven't received an email status back about the reason why they asked for those NPCs. A thought occurred to me about this however, so I'll open up a new email thread with the devs...
    2. Primal changes were deliberate, but the patchnotes were not entirely clear on these changes. Here is what CN provided for us -

    spvm4mhk6sno.jpg

    If there is some sort of deviation from the table they provided us, please let me know!

    I saw the changes to HFT, but due to the stigma from the last time anything related to it was ran, I was unsure the activity levels inside that instance. There are more way to get some of the Starchart items and those events should start rolling out within the next few months so stay stunned for that!
    Thank you for the update, and I apologize in advance because this is going to continue to sound critical (though, as always, never of you specifically, Kalyst :tongue: ). If at all possible and if you haven't already, could you communicate to the devs directly that we've given what is (to the best of my knowledge based on the threads I've read) a universally negative response to this change?

    Ironically, I think I wrote the closest thing to a positive response to this change that I'm aware of in another thread (tl;dr, that farming methods have changed before and no doubt we'll find a new one eventually). But that's because I'm less worried about FSP specifically, and more worried in general about changes that only seem to help pay-to-win people.

    Think about it: the coins being removed was bad enough, but who bought them from free-to-play players? The P2W crowd hoping to buff up their war avatars. And now we have the default reward offering them over three times that amount in untradeable war avatars (because everything is untradeable now, because reasons), which I have no doubt is why the value of FSP coins hasn't risen despite the comparatively lower supply.

    I'm honestly at a loss as to why this change was even done. It's not "we need coinsinks" (aka the bog-standard excuse for every change which hits the F2P crowd harder) - FSP coins don't generate any new coin at all because the money F2P players make from them is by selling to others. So what is it?
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