Chill community...geez...

It's funny as hell when ppl think she calls the shots or made all the rediculous calls PWI make. Shoot the messenger xD that always seems like the most rational thing to do

Ok joe maybe you want a tissue after sucking pwi [Redacted] in this post. You are like the annoying kid at school that reminds the teacher to check homeworks. WHO df are you to judge other servers players? Do u really think SVS is a good way of doing that? Cause uk a lot of US players cant attend that and anyhow u get carried by Crisis. And pls for the love of god stop to call urself undergeared no1 buys that ****.

Kalyst : Edited for...interesting word usage.

@blazerboy eatwithspoons? Also people do love Bearclaw, depending on who you talk to.

I won't comment one way or another, but I'll keep an eye on this to make sure it doesn't get super out of hand like the last thread(s)

@kalystconquerer#0876 actually bearclaw is infamous to the people of Harshlands server after what he did a few years ago lmfao NP fiasco ftw. Dw I won't go into detail about it some things are better left in the past eatwithspoons? Hmmm I don't even remember that gm to be 100% honest just know you have done more for us than most xD

We've had some terrible CMs and we've had some great CMs. Spoons was the first one I remember and one of the greater ones. Then we had frankieraye (AKA "Soon™"), there was Sparkiesoft for awhile, and also Domino. Did I miss anyone? I feel like I may have missed one or two. Also @jsxshadow what did Domino do to gain the community's ire? I was on hiatus for a large part of his tenure so my memory is a bit fuzzy on that period.

Regarding GM-hate: I wish these people would take half a second to understand the situation or at least assign blame properly. The other night I saw a guy flip out just because a GM entered his homestead during a cornucopia event - didn't even take anything, just popped in. A dozen world chats later and we learn that the "fault" was on a completely different GM. But no, random GM appears in HS, and suddenly it's super duper salty time and he's holding another cornucopia because the first one was totally ruined you guys, no really.

I mean, a lot of people don't read the forums, and that's part of the problem. But on the off chance that someone's reading this and looking to complain about something, please, do us all a favor and remember this first: your anger may well be justified, but misplaced anger is wasted anger. Learn why the event you're here to complain about happened. Understand that a large portion of what issues happen in-game cannot be fixed by PWE directly, and that individual GMs, much less the CM like Kalyst, have control over even less. Serious issues do not get fixed quickly. For example, I've been sitting on a ticket for six months because my HS contracting profits have been known to vanish from the collection dialog before I can pick them up. I have no idea when or even if that will be fixed, meaning I may never be able to properly use my HS again. But that isn't Kalyst's fault, or any GM's fault. It's China's fault, and I can continue to be a pest about that, but screaming at Kalyst isn't going to make me feel any better - and if that kind of thing would make you feel better, then you're not paying attention. At the end of the day, regardless of job description, these are real people with real lives, and you may find that screaming at them results in about as much success as if you did it to someone IRL.

I will also wholeheartedly echo the idea of these people (or frankly, anyone) never needing NP, or even half of the gear/cards that they already have for that matter.

@eirghan in her defense she told these ppl to calm the heck down she's looking into it but here's what ppl decided to do. LETS PROMOTE CHARGEBACKS AND BREAK PWI TOS OR LETS BOYCOTT CHARGING UNTIL THEY GIVE US OUR WAY. Asking for a refund is one thing but demanding one otherwise I will make a chargeback case or encouraging it publically was the wrong way. I honestly hate when they close threads mainly because threads like that to me are entertaining as heck, but openly calling gms on fraud and encouraging breaking the TOS I can't blame them that time. Sometimes you decide to give ppl a inch and they take a mile on that thread some ppl went several miles and took a victory lap lmfao xD

I was going to start my NP next cycle just so I can keep up with the current 1st RB NP ppl and higher since there's actually a few with that O.O. But then that post was made and I said gg wp I can't get more attack,which is what I feel the only main goal for NP is. Anyways when I saw that I said ok time to find other ventures to preoccupy my time and just plan with what I've got. So do I feel bad for those who didn't get to finish thier set kinda since they more or less didn't lose anything just made a choice to charge. But do I feel PWI owe a refund? Nope just like ppl didn't get refunds when they spend hundreds of $ on any form of packs. -shrugs- I just feel we can all agree to disagree on this one and move on.

@ least they are more open to listening now than ever before.

Tho we really have some issues still. Kalyst is working on them and I have confidence in that.

LOL, man i miss being up to date in this game. took a bit over a year off and then kept my client updated so i could come back with new content.

i also peruse the forums from time to time to keep up on current events.

and boy can I say all my motivation to log back in has died! its not the player's fault, its the publisher and the company who owns everything. i left right as Kalyst was beginning to help out and i must say she has done about a good a job GM'ing as anyone since frankieraye, if not better. she has made sure to communicate often and i saw her even replying to forum posts after hours (as an IT support person, seeing somebody reply off the clock is a BIG thing).

I really dont think i have it in me to grind the bloods or spirit (i believe my main is SSX or whatever the 3rd sky level is) even though i really want to play around with the glyphs and stuff. its really the DAILY aspect of the game, it requires me to sacrifice 4 hours a day just to make progress. i could understand if there were a way to catchup and do many of these quests more than once (i think the jade order system for AEU was probably the best system PW has implemented after nerfing frost), but i cant even do that. missing a day or two a month is a huge hit to your momentum.

im mixing in things from the other thread about new players cus the same ppl are here sorry, but i completely agree about the challenges that face brand new players, and even returning players. putting things in the cash shop is not the answer either because now we have this huge pay-wall and it detracts more than it benefits the game.

in regards to ppl threatening to boycott, i feel that is an appropriate response that should have been used more than a few years ago when the sales strategy of this company turned the game in an express lane to debt-land.

using the fact that the company has to contend with bots and other exploits in china is also a poor explanation and excuse. so the only way to address these concerns is to create a large monetary pit to jump into? no sir!

i actually agree with joe (usually joe makes a post or replies to one and its 14 pages of hatred lol) here about the gold price and economy. i think ppl should never have bought into those spend promos that rewarded $1200 of expenditures. it created a horrible precedent and they will never back down from it. i understand a good many players had been merching and stockpiling mountains of gold and coin and that those promos were created to drain those swamps.... but it didnt work. how many CoMs were sold for 10+ billion coin? look at the threshold to move from newb to competitive (i mean to the point where you can score 3 digit damage on NP ppl!!?), its purely ridiculous.

ok so now im spewing but to sum up, Kalyst is a wonderful CM as far as i've seen and i wish ppl can find a way to protest and voice their outrage without stressing her out because she is making great strides to reform the game for the players. ppl should stop buying into every single promo they come up with, if the promos always make them tons of money what incentive do they have to make a change? starting this game or resuming this game is by and large...... impossible/illogical, yall can have fun with it but i have been struggling to find a reason to fall back into the trap. have a good day yall

Everybody forgetting v4liance (also known as "Hey, you!").

He was a pretty good CM, and also helped making .ini editing legal so we can have pretty characters.​​

As others have said, it's definitely not the right thing to blame Kaly for all this brouhaha, as she didn't have any control over it. And most people weren't specifically intending that, though it's difficult to tell intentions when a thread blows up so massively with all that hate.

That being said, the basis behind some people's anger (cashers are people too, and the people that keep the game alive I'd remind y'all) was justified to a degree. It came out of left field and was basically an insult to those banking on that sale for the only viable method for them to get NP. Me personally? I haven't logged in for about a month and stuff like that is only making it less likely for me to do so. I'm really losing sights on what the point of the game is anymore. I know MMOs are a grind, but usually there's something of a point or purpose, whether it be story, to try to reach the pinnacle of what your character can be, or experiencing all the content. But I feel like there's just not enough there to be satisfying anymore. And certainly not enough for anyone who can't pay or grind endlessly.

I realize I am a very lazy player and frankly haven't put 100% into the game in years, but I've had no reason to. Back before and during the beginning of the tideborn update, I could pk freely with plenty of people and do very well (yes it might be because BMs were the premiere stun lock class, but I had to have very precise timing dangit!). Shortly after tideborn, I lost that ability because of the gear chasm that opened up between cashers and f2p players. And it has only gotten wider and wider, with my own spending out of desperation not even closing that gap a bit. So I can imagine that players who finally had an effective and clear path to go on to catch up to hardcore cashers would be rightly miffed that that avenue is taken away. Blaming Kaly for it? Wrong way to go about it, but don't just dismiss cashers of any kind, hardcore whales or just putting some money in to close the gap a bit, as "brainless".

Welp the community has all the reasons to be pissed and express it. Afterall promo end without reaching last stage. But i never actually seen someone blaming Kaly for this. Kaly is a great person always answering questions and putting alot of work into this game. IF China actually did demand NP promo fater 1 full cycle and half another without finishing it well then GG. PW company got from my NR1 recommend list to not even recommend list. Playable but wouldnt recomend others to start. Ik PW doesnt care about my opinion but i believe i am not the only 1 here.

Maybe i havent followed the forum posts enough but I didnt see the community being as descriped in this thread, nor anybody at all that wishes for kalyst to be gone.
People was upset, thats for sure, and for a good reason too. I am as well.

I do think our staff needs to have a proper discussion with PWCN about the games prices. As already mentioned here and in many other forum topics, this game is way way way too expensive.

Oh and I didnt know orinj was gone. Not like we ever know when someone quits though...