Rules appy for some but not for all? WTF PWI!!

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I had assumed all the Elysian Seals had already been consumed from that whole business (didn't have much visibility when that whole thing went down), but I guess we have a few stragglers lurking around the system. I did however, forward this thread to them so as far as I know, they're keeping an eye on it and gathering information.

Ah thats funny. I know they made all elysian seals bound across all the servers after they discovered people started glitching them, but i guess someone hold onto the packs they came from untill after they fixed it. I would have guessed they also had fixed the packs and make newly opened seals bound too, but seems they let the packs stay the same, a little woopsie from PWE (or PWCN?) side.
But quite interesting.

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sensualsoul wrote: »

So Selling Elysian Seal is against the ToS, so my friend was told when she got her 3 day ban for selling some she had bought from a catshop and had extra. And yet I have been seeing people selling Elysian Seal quite openly in world chat and doing so for going on 2 weeks now. And, without anyone doing anything to stop it. So do these rules only apply to some people or only for catshops? If only for some of us mind letting us know if we are you "list" of people that would get banned? Or maybe it's ok to sell them in world chat? I mean if that's true then we should all just sell them in world chat! First though someone tell me, how do you glitch them so they can be traded? See that way we'll all know and can do the same thing. Would make it fair for everyone! I have hundreds of these useless Elysian seal sitting in my bank. Yeah I got all my skills ages ago! Not sure why we are still even getting them!
I hate when there is a double standard in play, makes my blood boil! And PWI seems to lazy to fix this one!

Mmm I think this is a really interesting question.
But short answer would be: Support can be extremely random sometimes. So even if you report someone, said person may never get banned depending on who got your ticket, if we also add that they don't discuss about bans is even more hard to know.

On the other hand someone who lets say never violated the TOS before made some mistake, and lets say he got bad luck and was reported to a GM that actually does his job or that is having a bad day . Said player made end being perma banned for some really dumb reason.

However I think some people could be exceptions to the rules of this game.
Before someone quote me, please notice that what I am about to say is nothing more than conjecture based purely on my years of playing this game, and my interaction with other players including some that had abused or violate this game TOS for years without real consequences.

So my theory is quite simple and really not very different from what the name of your thread states but at same time the oposite to it. So lets begin by quoting that.

Rules appy for some but not for all? WTF PWI!!

I think that in this whole banning/rules/TOS stuff, rules actually apply to most of us but some people are above the law.


You actually say some really interesting things about the whole banning thing:

So do these rules only apply to some people or only for catshops?

Again is quite the opposite. Most of people who get reported for a clear violation of the TOS should get banned, but in some cases due to the randomness of the support or do the abuser not being reported, those person would not get banned.

If only for some of us mind letting us know if we are you "list" of people that would get banned?

Now this, I must say is one my new Favorite phrases on this whole forum. I really don't know if it was a serious question or sarcasm. If it was sarcasm I must say you Owned my respect thank to that.
But in case it was not I would answer:
If you think about it the more accurate answer would be again that is quite the oposite: I mean there could be a "List" but said list is from people that should never be banned for "reasons...."


So here is my "Theory":
Some people may actually be on some sort of list, said list could actually be a "Don't ban this person no matter what for reasons... list "
If you think about it, there are persons on this game that have been abusing pretty much all that is posible to be abused
during years and said people never got the ban hammer, some of them still play and even have to nerve of make fun of it.

Just to give you some short examples:

• Scammer **** up an insane amount of people during the period of 2012 - 2014. This person get mass reported by almost all his victims plus their factions. So yeah, you have a guy that got reported for more than 200 people, most of them sent proof like, captures and even videos of his swindle.
  Result: Guy never gets banned and he openly admit on WC that he is the scammer, that he f... up all those people and that he would never be banned
  He is member of one of the top TW factions
  
• Same scammer dude from before change his name to something related to XXX movies and signature all his gear on same way.
  Result: Again some people report him and nothing.
  
• Another guy make an army of Illegal 3rd party bots (even before the whole autoculti thing) This guy is really smart and use his bots in pretty much everything that can be abused. He even adapt his bots to jolly old Jones after the whole drop nerf thing.
  The guy have so many and can generate so much money by doing nothing that he have multiple r9s3 toons including a maxed one (+12, full deity, morai card set)
  Result: He still plays and is part of one of the top tw factions.
  
• Another guy with an insane amount of accounts (hundreds of accounts) abuse pretty much everything that can be abused, including those codes that give free stuff during years. It also highly probable that a lot of those acc. are actually phished ones.
  
  Result: guy still plays like nothing but he is not too active anymore.
  

I could keep on and on putting examples but I think that what I am trying to say is quite obvious:
No matter what excuse PWE have. Some people on this game are flagged to not being banned, Called it "Diplomatic Immunity" if you want...

It is true that as I said before support could be really random sometimes. But if a person is reported hundred of times by different people, all of those persons from different parts of the world, not even related some times (like not on same factions or friends or anything), and many times with solid proof of the abuse.
That should trigger some sort of warning on them, if the abuser triggers an alarm and there is no response to it, there is clearly something fishy about it.

Of course as I said before this are just conjetures so you don't need to take them too seriously, but still is my opinion based on all my years playing this game.

sensualsoul said:
"Would think PWI would know how to turn those items off if we don't right?" referring to items no long of any use.

Uh huh. That's why the landscape is littered with useless DQ drops, even after they took the value away. You don't really expect pwi to fix all these little things that make the game more pleasant do you?? These are the people who don't even notice, let alone fix, the misspellings of 'Keyborads" and "safty' in the "Tips" that have been there for years. That right there tells you a lot about their attention to detail.

I'm very sorry that your friend got banned for something they didn't even realize was illegal. Sometimes I think they're just trying to see how many people they can run out of the game.

I've complained numerous times about constantly getting dc'd in Tideswell, (100's of times by now, and that's the only place it happens) but no one cares.

We're approaching some grey areas on discussing what people get banned for and who doesn't (and the conjecture that comes with it). I'll poke my head in and out of this thread, but let's try to steer clear of anything that breaks Forum rules.

Also -

You don't really expect pwi to fix all these little things that make the game more pleasant do you?? These are the people who don't even notice, let alone fix, the misspellings of 'Keyborads" and "safty' in the "Tips" that have been there for years. That right there tells you a lot about their attention to detail.

We can find these lines in the localization and easily fix these! Kind of odd those were there for so long, but those are pretty painless to take care of. Will pass them along today if I don't get to it myself!

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