Any Interest in a no-holds barred, PVP server? + Which events do you like? + Custom pet or mount?

This PvP server vs PvE server discussion will lead to nowhere.

@orinj when you talk to devs, see if they can come up with a solution in which the events that require pk mode enabled (like RW and Sarokkan) only work for characters with pk mode active so they can't be exploited. This is the start to erradicate most of the whining around here. Not making a new server, althought a cross-server pvp area is an excellent idea. We had xNW, but that went downhill because of unbalance. Now our only hope is pray for a nice fight during xTW (which sadly doesn't happen often) and the cross server tournament (Soon).

Then go and do pvp. Who is holding you back? Are you forced to be blue and you cant pvp? There are plenty white people out there you can pvp with. Stop whining about pvp server and actualy do some pvp, because you can do it even on a pve server.

superfedee wrote: »

just revert Da and Tw into PvP-mode and leave the other ones PvE they are bad anyways​​

Revert implies they were pvp to start with. Remember when the two European servers merged and they were given a choice whether to be pvp or pve? Guess what they voted for?

I'm all for pkers to have a place of their own, but please stop pretending the majority of people would be happy with permanent pk-servers.

Most ppl who dont want to pk will say they dont want to be stuck in pk for 10hrs or they are affraid to lose something. Reduce the timer from 10hrs to 1 or 2 hrs and eliminate the dropping of items if killed in pk, see if that will make ppl want to pvp more

oh yeah i almost forgot!!!! daily events should be TWICE daily to accomodate timezones. a major difference between China and international is the spread of timezones, dailies that trigger once daily should be offered at opposing ends of the clock, yet the quests are still only able to complete once in 24 hours.

Why do you need rrr9 for pve?

dudai wrote: »

Why do you need rrr9 for pve?

Just for fun, solo tm lunar without any OP gear . Make a video of it, so others can learn that OP gear is not required for pve.​​

It's kind of weird how China's server are all PvP. But our are now Pve. I think making a new PvP server would just kill off the current servers. Making that cross server PvP instance for all of us would be the right choice to do. @orinj

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the point is, the normalization is what will help open world pvp.

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@paralleogram R u forreal... its like when you go to a village of poor and drunk people and ask them, from your new position of unelected head of district, from you fancy new car, what kind of roses they want to have in the new park you are going to make. One that does of course never even attempt to solve their biggest problems. I'd say its pretty normal that people stick to their actual needs. It would be a interesting social anomaly if people behaved differently.

From a pure psychological Aspect now: What reasons would people have to stick around in a game like PWI without PvPing? Well, there are not many factors that would be relevant in this matter:

1. They are solely logging in for friends and use this game as a chat-program with the occasional daily to have some diversity from the regular chat.
2. They follow their PvE-goals. Some people are obsessed with achieving a PvE-Level with which they can Solo anything or where they can reach higher and higher DMG numbers. I once was driven by that too.
3. People associate alot of nice memories with this game and thus stick to it as a constant reminder of said memories. Depending on what you lived through in the time you play a game, listen to a song, etc. ... you can get easily attached not only to what moved you in the first place simply due to your mind associating certain memories with other things. You could name it Nostalgia.
4. Specific reasons. Everyone has very specific reasons to do things sometimes. Some people use games as a place where they can hide from the cruel reality sometimes. Things like that can get adictive to a level in which you dont feel secure outside of your own "world" anymore. One could argue that this is also a first step towards a mental illness but I dont believe such. As long as it doesnt hurt the person or anyone else, its fine imho.

Personally. Even tho I understand all the reasons stated above (and ofc more since there is more =P) I can't imagine playing this game without PvP. That might be due to the fact that once you conquered anything a game has to offer PvE-wise there is simply no point in doing it over and over and over again. It will get old. Boring. Unless you encounter absolute nubs that literally always do the same things in PvP as if they were bots of some sort, then you shouldnt encounter that problem here. PvP is nearly always fun. Winning or losing also doesnt matter too much cept one is riddled with pure egomaniac ofc!

Alot of people get too worked up in PvP tho. There are several types of people. The people that will get killed by someone 50 times in a row but still keep going strong cause they use the oppurtunity to learn from every loss and will constantly get better and then there are the ones that will lose 3 fights in a row and quit the game. Unfortunatly...the latter is the most dominant in nearly anything humanly imaginable. Opening a new Server and giving the oppurtunity to bulk together all active pvpers from any server will only lead to alot of them quiting and eventually become the same as we have now. Empty.

A cross-Server PvP-Arena really would be the best solution imho. One in which everyone from any server could login at any givin time and participate in PvP of all sorts. 1on1s, 5on5s, 10on10s, random Mass-PvP, maybe some tournaments here and there and other PvP-Events. This way people also dont have to abandon factions and friends in their journy to a new server. Just saying.

superfedee wrote: »

paralleogram wrote: »

This is part of the reasons we don't get nice things. We were asked to give our opinion on what we would want more... and now it's turned into a pvp debate and people campaigning to have the servers changed to pvp. That isn't what was asked and it won't happen.
Just state what you want and move on ppl-- seriously it isn't that hard.

the debate is legit you fool,
if they open a pvp server no holds barred blablabla and gears are illu crystal gears as per orinj words, it's no point to even try it because the game is not anymore balanced upon TT gears.

point is mister, before "state what you want" you actually would like to read the whole thread before posting your late statement

all the pvp related debate is about orinj asking: let's open new pvp server with illusion crystal granted,
the average answer is no thanks

because:

none will drop endgame toons to reroll on TT gears
even with illusion crystal will take years to get up to date
pvp in TT gears suck
pvp server isn't even that liked by the playerbase

instead:

fix thursday cross server tournament
bring back cross server nation wars
allow access to cross server gulch at any time and enable open PK in there

period.​​

ok we agree for most everything (not gonna continue to argue over g12 gears lets just drop that). i will point out that illusionary crsytal doesnt give gear. the warfront chest does. he stated "a PVP care package, and possibly some other items to allow people to hit the ground running." and the crystal only after a certain level (likely 30 when pk is activated)

i personally think, following the example of other games, that if they were to normalize gear they would not use tt99 but rather NV3 or better yet R8R (since that is par for the course in China right?)... BUT other gears, like ornaments will be farmed (since they are.... a business....)

otherwise your other points are spot on.

the secret passage idea is a great idea too, i think they should spawn beefed up versions of those puppet clones of various classes.... and they have higher spawn rates on top or ppl who are red-named.... as in the redder your name the more likely they will spawn... as for the drops, i dont think that will fly but it would be nice.

Yes, new PVP server pls. Actually any new server, cuz the only really good thing I'm thinking about this is the fresh new start. If a new server opens I'll consider starting over. The coins inflation on this game is the most cancerous thing ever brought to PWI. It definitely plays an important role on people quitting, so a new server would have a much better economy I believe.