Rip TW

Seriously the new slots suck more than old and now nw became bot city once more thanks pwi...

Yeah, I didn't like three hour TWs in the long run. After two hours performance drops for a lot of people. It just gets tiring.

Though, I can also see this becoming a bit of a problem for big TWs since the extra hour helped. Factions turtling and winning by default (defending faction) could become more common now. ​​

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rikkert1234 said:

now faction will have to use actual strategy to win v_v RIP pushing B lane for 3 hours hoping u win

As long as cata glitch is in place, which seems to be the case now that I found patch notes, its pretty damn hard to win even TW in 100mins. Not saying winning 80vs80 is impossible, we seen pretty devastating rolls on Etherblade in TWs, which were supposed to be close. But just because gear and numbers are close to each other doesnt mean factions are close to each other in real strength.

chary said:

saxroll wrote: »

Least they gonna fix the cata glitching, which should make TWs a lot faster. I do hope we get that patch on our expansion too.

Is it just seeker transposition or is it also reel-in? Because the latter is also very much an issue.​​

By my understanding its for both, catapuller becomes immune to displacement skills. I imagine it includes reels, seeker skill, even mystic knockback. But I dont speak chinese so I cant promise I understood the patch notes correctly.

Edit: The link for parch notes http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20160216/76240.shtml

saxroll said:

rikkert1234 said:

now faction will have to use actual strategy to win v_v RIP pushing B lane for 3 hours hoping u win

As long as cata glitch is in place, which seems to be the case now that I found patch notes, its pretty damn hard to win even TW in 100mins. Not saying winning 80vs80 is impossible, we seen pretty devastating rolls on Etherblade in TWs, which were supposed to be close. But just because gear and numbers are close to each other doesnt mean factions are close to each other in real strength.

Or start using Blademasters to pull cata, I personally prefer this either way, since imo the ability to use leaps is much more powerful than invoke these days, with freeze being such an important part in the kit of many classes Or at least have people ready to be back-up catas in case of a glitch, or target the opposing seekers before traversing thru the gate, or use immunity while traversing thru the gate, there's really so many solutions to the seeker ****.

Not gonna watch a whole video

rikkert1234 said:

saxroll said:

Why would you ever use BM to pull cata over barb? There is far fewer vit BMs than there is vit barbs, which limits amount of worthwhile BM pullers pretty heavily. Locking BM down might be harder but when you actually do this slightly more challenging task, dropping the BM compared to a barb is a joke. Barb is simply the only class build to take the kind of beating real TWs require of catapullers.

Im just speaking from my own experience ofcourse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gso1IvA-88Y&t=150

Feels a lot better to be the BM in this situation

And the moment his frontline, the barbs, died he used his CDs and dropped pretty instantly. While the barbs took hell of a beating before dropping. Which is exactly my point. If there were only BM pullers, theere wouldnt be that frontline to absorb damage and you wouldnt have one guy sitting on backside.

I would like a 100min lost-TW than 3 hours win-TW. hard to find a race in rl last for 3h without any break.
100 min is enjoyable to me.

all strategies and skills are based on gear + number,
this change just give the def ( weaker) faction more successful chances and asking the attacker more gear and number up.
also give more chance to ganking strategy
it is just pwcn what to do, nothing about pwi.
But so far, I don't see any QQ or happy about this change in pwcn forum, seems no1 care about it.

but as a casual player, id care about those things which usually worried by faction offcials and TW commander.
in this game, put 100min in the weekend is enough to me.

BTW, seems SvS TW asked more good coordination.

Last week, we met infamous, i did felt that. if two similar OP faction, there must be a good coodination or easily lost the points

100 min TW is perfect now view on best fration and deffens is given new proportion

More power race, more pvp gear, but less pvp events. Logic? ​​

dblazen1 wrote: »

The logic is cashgrab. Which they already did by using pre-order packs without giving any useful information about what you are actually "upgrading" to.

But if there is no pvp, there is no motivation for ppl to cs. Okay, there are pure pve ppl who are also interested and they pay, but cutting big part of fun for pvpers, cuts some part of income as well.
TW was damaged enough by often map resets, now it's damaged even more. xTW is a gamble and you need to take whole map before system gives you real faction in pair (and it gives 2ppl vs 60, good job).
What else to do here? Run fs every day? Several times per day. 7/24/365. Nice fun game.​​

darkonome wrote: »

Question to the people that 'don't mind this change' how long does your TW last vs the strongest opposition on your server. If it's less than 100mins then quite obviously you wouldn't mind.

TW situation on DG is as such: Infamous managed three hour defend Crisis last weekend (which I can't offer my opinion on since I was only there for the last hour or so of it) when previously those wars lasted maybe an hour with Crisis as the victor. Mayhem was wiped off the map also this weekend after losing within an hour or so to Reign and in the previous weeks, getting progressively one-pushed by Infa. There aren't really any other guilds worth mentioning as I'm pretty sure Mayhem could still like one push Requiem probably.

Three hour wars for me are usually a headache. Sure there is the rare good three hour war, but it doesn't happen often. Regardless, with the cata glitches being fixed soon, 100 minutes should be fine as that seems to be a big factor in the lengthening of wars.

It's the same reason why people complained about the way xTW is working, in order to assure points it's makes more sense to defend the easy lands and no show the fight that you would like to have, unless you can comfortably field 150+ players at that time to risk going for the max points.

I'm of the opinion they should not have bothered with a seasonal prize for cross tw anyway so people will be more likely to go to the better fights.


But the real tragedy of this patch is cross server NW being disabled rather than anything to do with TW, cross server or otherwise.​​

You'd be surprised, we've had some really good 3 hour TWs, including winning in the last 10 minutes. But most battles are indeed decided in an hour and a half. I think this change won't hurt anything in the big scheme of things.

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