Solo players get shafted by PW

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear · November 2010

Vipercat - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The problem is not so much with a squad, you can do a lot of runs if you find a decent and intelligent squad not made of fail, but sadly a good squad is hard to find these days and that is why a lot of people just want to solo as much as they can when possible. Another problem is that if you don't drop in hundreds or thousands of dollars for 5.0 aps TT99 or Rank IX nonsense you can't get anything or anywhere useful after 90+, don't believe me? then try fighting some bosses in 3-X or even the last boss in 2-3 without a 5aps and not get squad wiped. Another problem is the staff never fixes any significant in game issues or bugs, but rather creates new ones and ignores them unless they can make money off of it, take rubber banding and several bosses including Gluttonix in 59 never being fixed. The squad issue is only a small part of many much bigger issues, none of which PWi staff cares to fix ever...

LOL... I been tanking belial since I was 9x... and am still capable of tanking it right now. So as far as I am concerned... that boss was not changed with several 3-x bosses. Maybe the real problem with you not being able to tank it... is that you just complete and utterly sucks.

Healforwimps - Heavens Tear · November 2010

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Belial is easy with an archer/sin with bow tanking. Melee also doable, but I'm not going to be the cleric in that situation.

3-1 Behe is even easier than Belial.

@OP- Stop being antisocial. This game is based around participating in squads. And unfortunately, most squads here don't know how to park people for GV so you're gonna have to - oh no! - participate in a squad to get it done.

No,selling up and relocating to a dark little cave,maybe around skull mountain...probably will ponder the mysteries of the universe for a while,the meaning of life,listen to some emo rock,slash my wrists,perhaps reincarnate into a sin...

Xoria - Sanctuary · November 2010

Vipercat - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The problem is not so much with a squad, you can do a lot of runs if you find a decent and intelligent squad not made of fail, but sadly a good squad is hard to find these days and that is why a lot of people just want to solo as much as they can when possible. Another problem is that if you don't drop in hundreds or thousands of dollars for 5.0 aps TT99 or Rank IX nonsense you can't get anything or anywhere useful after 90+, don't believe me? then try fighting some bosses in 3-X or even the last boss in 2-3 without a 5aps and not get squad wiped. Another problem is the staff never fixes any significant in game issues or bugs, but rather creates new ones and ignores them unless they can make money off of it, take rubber banding and several bosses including Gluttonix in 59 never being fixed. The squad issue is only a small part of many much bigger issues, none of which PWi staff cares to fix ever...

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

People were fighting Ancient Evil before 5.0 or even genies...

but it's true that 3-x bosses have gotten too ridiculous with conventional squads.

Seriously, Ancient Evil is fun, especially back when there were no genies and no defense charms and the only way for arcanes to survive was to spark at just the right moment or you were just deep- six by him.

Heck, 3-2 and 3-3 is still fun. I like the fact PWE put TT on "manly" mode again. I wish they'd do that for Lunarglade and Forgotten Frostcity. It separates the good players that actually took the time to learn their class over the ones that just spammed dailies, oracles, hypers and BHs.

Used and abused cleric- not the first time I've heard it and one of the reasons I left Legendary after being in the faction from level 30 up until level 75[ish]. They are the people that ask for TT runs and say they will help you out later when you want/ need your gear. When that time actually comes, they play dumb. Simple solution: it's okay to help a friend, but sometimes helping random players, even if they are in your faction, can be a baaaaad idea. Demanding fair- share usually avoids things like this. If they don't want to do a fair- share split, then why are you still in that squad?

Conventional squads? You mean a barb, veno, cleric, bm and two others? I'd say it's still easily done. There are things called defense charms that work just like pots and cuts damage received once. As a cleric, they are my very best friends in TT. Things like this is what I mean about players not knowing their class- they don't know their weaknesses nor ways to cover up that weakness.

Experiment a bit.

Djoulz - Lost City · November 2010

You want to know how to be 150% sure to get a squad in anything nowadays??

Roll a Bm or sin and get 5 freaking aps.
There, here's your solution!

Knownase - Heavens Tear · November 2010

Djoulz - Lost City wrote: »

You want to know how to be 150% sure to get a squad in anything nowadays??

Roll a Bm or sin and get 5 freaking aps.
There, here's your solution!

Actually, just have 5.0 aps regardless of class. b:chuckle

Djoulz - Lost City · November 2010

Lol.

5aps LA wiz ftw ijs

LadyofReal - Heavens Tear · November 2010

Here's a thought, without mentioning rerolling...

Take the time to learn your class. Exploit your strengths and improve your weakness. Make yourself an asset to take on squad based runs. Most squads will chose aps over anything, that I will agree to, but I do run Nirvana, quite frequently, with a wizard who has a +12 Nirvana weapon; that wizard is 10x better than most other DD's I run with. He has taught his genie tangling mire to help debuff the bosses, which makes bloodpaint heal for more, and physical based attackers hit harder. He has also learned the elemental chests so he can run on the last boss; there are so many aps users out there that are completely clueless to elemental weaknesses that it's just not funny. You don't have to be an aps user, you just have to be noticeably good at your class.

And how could you not now that this is a squad based game? It's an MMORPG, which translates to: Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. I don't know about you, but every multiplayer game that I have played required teams of some sort.

But, in all honesty, if you're this displeased with the way things are going for you; do one of two things: either do something to change it or quit.

Cocobelle - Sanctuary · November 2010

Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »

Seriously, Ancient Evil is fun, especially back when there were no genies and no defense charms and the only way for arcanes to survive was to spark at just the right moment or you were just deep- six by him.

You need to go with me to TT. It's so fun. Xaratool and Sosaanub went with me before with Hero. b:chuckle

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary · November 2010

Dunno, in a way it is a problem. It's not that rebirth is too difficult though, it's the fact that NO one actually bothers doing things like it. You have 90% of players who are like the OP and complain that "no one chance in hell anyone would take them on instances".... but would they even dream of forming their own squad or trying to learn with other inexperienced players? Hell no.

I always used to think I was just unlucky to never get into gamma. But now I'm at delta level, I notice nearly every 90-100 player in my faction has never finished a run. Random squads for TT don't actually exist either. Everyone seems afraid of 3-2 and 3-3 because the price of tt99 gold mats actually increased by over 1m on every mat after two x2 events. And most lv100's refuse to even step into a nirvana.

You don't get many squads complaining on forums.

BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear · December 2010

i agree with the OP.
i mean seriously all those ppl that say " make a sin or bm or any 5.0 and farm ur gear" are ridiculous.

why shall some classes like wiz,psy,venos, real archers even be implemented to a game if u cant even find squads with those classes in a mmorpg?
furthermore they wont even be given the chance to solo farm things because they cant find squads.

for those ppl that say:" try to find friends or facs to run those stuff" point here is how are u supposed to find friends if u dont get into those squads(hanging arround westgate is no solution imo)

the next sad thing for facs is, that most ppl that wont have any profit in doin something wont even think of helping. not true? its just some human behaviour to think " why shall i help him? will i be payed off for this?"

ive been in several facs, and i always wanted to try to run a real warsong for example cause i have no experience in this, same for lunar squad mode or other stuff.
because it would rip off charms and the repairs is way to high so "hey lets go into nirvana and use the money u get there for packs maybe u get the warsong marshal badge or luna capes withem?"

seriously i have no idea how hard warsong is, if there r any bugs or anything or if it is hard to work for the warsong marshal badge. same for lunar i have no idea if its hard to achieve those mats, all i do know is that it would scratch some charms and repairbills r too high, so they wont try to use some endgame content.

same goes for looking for groups to either farm wraithspirits or the other stuff u need for helm of holy punishment or heavenrage boots, it would be so easy if u set up a zhen, i tried that once but ppl dont want to give it a chance. too sad, but as casterclass u wont find anysquads, making friends is hard, ppl r too greedy even in facs.

Wuss - Harshlands · December 2010

Xoria - Sanctuary wrote: »

Rebirth cultivation isn't bad. What makes it bad is that most players didn't bother to learn it and would much rather just hyper spam FCC. Players like you are what happens when PWE introduces a "better" way of gaining mass amounts of experience.

TTs not really worth doing- yup, completely agree. I blame double drops spam, yet players keep wanting those double drop events and those TT mats are doomed to forever stay cheap. Until TT99 gold mats, that is.

The rubber banding is annoying, and no, it hasn't been around for 2 years. More like 8 months- 1 year.

If the game gets under your skin that much, time to uninstall?

rubber banding was intorduced in a patch before 1 year anni so thats more than 8 months

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear · December 2010

Healforwimps - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ok so a lot of players prefer for different reasons to try make it to endgame on their own(personally i've been in plenty of factions and usually people will use you to line their own pockets and get all their quests done/gear farmed before suddenly forgetting you exist when needing help with your own farming/bosses etc)

But past 80 its just plain ****,gets bad from 80 to 90+ then its just completely useless trying to do any farming,do your cultis,gain access to oht maps thanks to the ridiculous forcing of players into rebirth... i mean i spend real life cash to get a herc,more to get myself extremely goodgears and yet i'm at the point where all i have left to do is one daily in first oht map(the lower bounty hunts if i'm lucky enough to recieve it),farm normal mobs for dragonquests at a cut price sell back...not to mention the dropping of those were so obviously nerfed it isn't even funny,and if i want to improve my gears further i either have to spend the rest of my life farming these normal mobs for next to nothing,soloing squad mode tt's which are basically not even worth doing anymore(after the hassel of getting 3 others to help open the damn thing)or plough more money into the game.

Ah ploughing more money into the game,i could do that...infact i want to do that...but whats the point i then think if everything is closed off to me at endgame!

Make a solo mode nirvana that all or most classes can do(ofcourse it would still have to test your abilities)drastically reduce drops/rate of,but at least that way you aren't forced into a squad with greedy mother****ers with no life running that instance all day long with their 5aps and keeping prices fixed...there is zero competition in the crystal market and i'm not going to break into my bank account to throw hundreds of millions into these peoples pockets to improve my own gears.

I would spend more money to improve my characters survivability to farm a hard solo mode nirvana,win for pw there.

Take the damn rebirth culti out,swap it with something else more manageable,it is 100% impossible for me to get in a squad for that as when i first got interested in rebirth i was around 85 and no one would take someone who didn't know how to do it for a training run.

I would also love to go pking,usually solo but again i can't because so many people have hypered/ff and no lifed nirvana with their factions(or cash shopped too much)and are walking around with +10-12 nirvana equips and level 101+ that it would be like david versus goliath,without the miracle outcome.

Plenty of successfull mmorpgs have accomodated solo and social players,why the hell is this one specifically forcing them out more with each update?WE SPEND MONEY TOO just give us stuff to do ingame...

AND FFS FIX THE BUG WHERE YOU GET PERPETUALLY STUCK in a jumping loop coming off of aerogear,sometimes even running down a hill,that ****s been around for what,2 years almost?

No one give me the line about this being a squad game,that is not stated anywhere on site,infact class descriptions etc give the misleading perception that solo playing is also accomodated...and yeah it is..to a point ):

Btw,yes i am mad bro,very mad.

Translation for anyone who doesn't care to read this ****:

- QQ squad-based instances
- QQ PK
- QQ I can't get Nirvana gear grinding DQ mobs
- QQ bugs

Random QQ topic is random.

geriatrix · December 2015

NightRage - Raging Tide said:
Squad based game requires squads. Oh no.

And you decided it is squad based because some things require squads?

The sole purpose of this game is to give them money, or to be heavily punished if you don't.

I went to high-rate private server and live happily ever after...