Cash Shopper's Guide to Star Charts - These Costs Make Sense!

asterelle · September 2015

Do you want to be the very best? Like no one ever was?

Well with the new Star Chart items in the boutique you can charge your way to ultimate power!
To get the most out of your star chart you want to max out your star charts XP, Aptitude, and Astral Energy.
The costs for doing this are below.

Maxing out XP to 50

Astrobana Pearl LV2 4 Gold for 4 XP

Astrobana Pearl LV3 10 Gold for 10 XP
Either option is 1 Gold per XP. If you are some cheapskate loser who doesn't charge anything you can get 2 Starglad Chests per day from dailies and 5 level 1 XP pills for a total of 7 XP a day.

Level	XP	Total	Days
1	6	0	0.00
2	6	6	0.86
3	7	12	1.71
4	7	19	2.71
5	8	26	3.71
6	9	34	4.86
7	10	43	6.14
8	11	53	7.57
9	12	64	9.14
10	14	76	10.86
11	15	90	12.86
12	17	105	15.00
13	18	122	17.43
14	20	140	20.00
15	22	160	22.86
16	25	182	26.00
17	27	207	29.57
18	30	234	33.43
19	33	264	37.71
20	36	297	42.43
21	40	333	47.57
22	44	373	53.29
23	48	417	59.57
24	53	465	66.43
25	59	518	74.00
26	65	577	82.43
27	71	642	91.71
28	78	713	101.86
29	86	791	113.00
30	95	877	125.29
31	104	972	138.86
32	115	1076	153.71
33	126	1191	170.14
34	139	1317	188.14
35	153	1456	208.00
36	168	1609	229.86
37	185	1777	253.86
38	204	1962	280.29
39	224	2166	309.43
40	246	2390	341.43
41	271	2636	376.57
42	298	2907	415.29
43	328	3205	457.86
44	361	3533	504.71
45	397	3894	556.29
46	437	4291	613.00
47	481	4728	675.43
48	529	5209	744.14
49	582	5738	819.71
50	0	6320	902.86

So either spend $6320 now or wait 3 years. Up to you!

Maxing out Aptitude to 20 total

Astrospira Pearl LV1 1 Gold - 0.02 aptitude (up to 10 total aptitude, get 6 a day from dailies)

Astrospira Pearl LV2 2 Gold - 0.02 or 0.01 aptitude (up to 15 aptitude)

Astrospira Pearl LV3 3 Gold - 0.01 aptitude (up to 20 aptitude)

Astrospira Pearl LV4 1 Gold - 0 aptitude
You start out with 5 total aptitude and need to reach 20.
That's 250 LV1's to reach 10. 250 gold or spend 42 days of dailies.
Another around 375 LV2's to reach 15. 750 gold
Another 500 LV3's to reach 20. 1500 gold.
Total cost is $2500 but you can do it with $2250 if you're cheap and use the free ones from dailies to get to level 10.

Maxing out Astral Level to 10

Nebula Dust Orb 1 Gold or get 3 a day for free

Lev	Dust	Total	Days
1	50	0	0.0
2	250	50	16.7
3	800	300	100.0
4	2000	1100	366.7
5	5001	3100	1033.3
6	10341	8101	2700.3
7	38326	18442	6147.3
8	103670	56768	18922.7
9	247040	160438	53479.3
10	0	407478	135826.0

So finally if you spend a mere $407,478 you can max out your Astral Level! Either that or be cheap and do 372 years worth of dailies. Maybe your great great great great great ... grandchildren will like it when they inherit your toon. That being said you have around a 0.1% chance to get a 10 stat chart at level 7 so maybe you can stop then after spending only $18,442 or only 17 years of dailies.
Here are the chances for doing that made by someone else:

Final costs!
Level 50 Star Chart = $6,320
20 Total Aptitude = $2,500
10 stats on your star chart = $18,442
Total Cost = $27,262

What the heck are you guys waiting for? BUY IT NOW!
Sure you could have used this money to get full Rank 9 gear for 39 characters but who doesn't already have 39 rank 9 characters these days?

EDIT:
See my addendum below. We don't want a 10 stat star chart. We want a 10 USEFUL stat star chart. Who wants a star chart where half the stats are worthless for your class?

Total cost of 10 USEFUL stats on your star chart = $1,089,843

What's still needed is an estimate of how much it costs to get the optimal aptitude distribution since even with 20 total aptitude you will likely have a lot of it wasted on points that get rounded down to a lower value.

testxvi · September 2015

I was laughing all way reading this, it's written so funny.
Well I'm kinda hoping for new ways to get more materials, or maybe even sales in the future.. But it for sure seems expensive so far.

dingo488 · September 2015

You forgot that there's an extremely high likelyhood ur birthstars on 20 aptitude will be:

4.08 (lvl 4)
3.98 (lvl 3)
3.98 (lvl 3)
3.98 (lvl 3)
3.98 (lvl 3)

resulting in ur fatestars being

8.06 (lvl 8)
7.96 (lvl 7)
7.96 (lvl 7)
7.96 (lvl 7)
8.06 (lvl 8)

which is far from the desired result of everything being level 4 and lvl 8! Ofcourse u can spent 1$ to randomly shift 0.02 off these stats around, hopefully in the right direction, but they can just as easily shift in the wrong one, but I think with around $5,000 you should be pretty close to at least getting 9/10 on the right level

tolots · September 2015

We all know it will become cheaper over time as more quests with higher rewards will be introduced and sales cutting the costs to "insane but not impossible" level

But that was a good read, thanks for putting it together this way! I really like your guides.

baseaddress · September 2015

Fede, this info special for you. Forza Italia!

asterelle · September 2015

Ohh wait this is only the cost to get your first maxed out 10 stat star chart.

Which will probably look something like this:

Only 4 useful stats.

There are 16 different stats:
Phys Att/ Mag Att / Pdef / Mres / Metal Res/ Wood Res / Water Res / Fire Res / Earth Res / HP / MP / Phys Penet / Mag Penet / Spirit / Acc / Evasion
Of those only 5 or 6 are actually useful for you class, let's be nice and say 6 of them are useful. And you can only get each stat a max of twice.

So what if you want all the stats on your chart to be good?
Well thats the same as having 12 useful stats in a pool of 32 without replacement and picking 10 of them.
Chance is (12!/ (10! * 2!)) / (32! / (10! * 22!)) = 0.000102% your chart will be the best. That's 1 in 977458.

So how hard is it to get 977458 10 stat star charts? Well you have a 100% chance at level 10, 10% chance to get a 10stat chart at Astral level 9, 1% at level 8, 0.1% at level 7, and 0.01% at level 6.

So what does this look like?

Lev	Total Number of 10stat star charts encountered.
1	0
2	0.00001834853605
3	0.0002175336687
4	0.00175549435
5	0.014852993
6	0.180400662
7	1.991219672
8	49.25049684
9	983.2322911
10	23441.63869

By the time you hit astral 10 you will only encounter 23441 10 stat charts. We want 977458 though so we need to buy another 954017 dust after we reach astral 10 to get it.

Total cost of a 10stat chart with 10 USEFUL stats = 135826 + 954017 = $1,089,843

heerohex#3018 · September 2015

Wow... At least PWI is now committed for 372 years of life!

HAHAHAHA!

WOW Just WOW!

eternalghost · September 2015

This was absolutely hilarious!

372 years to max Astral level...... Hahaha

I have a 5 stat Chart that has moderately useful stats for a Sin. To think I was going to roll it again...

On the bright side if I play the lottery every day for 372 years im bound to of won enough money to actually buy this ****...... Right? xD

limonazza · September 2015

same ~removed~ i wrote in the other thread, who set the prices, who is in the pwi marketing, he is mad AF... considered that Star charts are a little portion of the damage output and a non relevant portion of the defensive potential

knownase · September 2015

True commitment.

yakido · September 2015

Jeez PWI needs to get real, this is beyond a joke.

sindarella · September 2015

there was a red gm text earlier this day, it started with "Don □□□"
so this "Don □□□", a former mafioso, is the new CEO of pwi?
this explains those insane, cutthroat prices of a good star chart!
and also explains how they can mention nonchalantly on pwi news:
"charge in $1000, spend $500 gold on each character, and both characters will receive the Platinum Tag"
yeah charge 1000$ to ENABLE quests that will give up to 1000 event gold, that is ONE BOUND FLYER!
thank you honorable "Don □□□", i will charge, but please, stop asking about the wellbeing of my family!

limonazza · September 2015

baseaddress wrote: »

Fede, this info special for you. Forza Italia!

looooool wait i just read that... no way i went f2p on star charts after this re-pricing fiasco no more lvl 50 race

jabq · September 2015

asterelle wrote: »

Maybe your great great great great great ... grandchildren will like it when they inherit your toon.

I thought account sharing was bad, you were not allowed to pass on your account to your progeny.

armoftheland · September 2015

Its in my will. If my greatgreatgreyagetatgrabdchildren inherit my ip and my name wheres the crime?!

roziveru · September 2015

Please make it sticky as an official guide so everyone know how much gold they need to charge to max their star chart. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

sylenthunder · September 2015

roziveru wrote: »

Please make it sticky as an official guide so everyone know how much gold they need to charge to max their star chart. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Actually it's going into the guides now, and will probably be stickied once it's complete.

joeisyourhero · September 2015

asterelle said:
Ohh wait this is only the cost to get your first maxed out 10 stat star chart.

Which will probably look something like this:

Only 4 useful stats.

There are 16 different stats:

Phys Att/ Mag Att / Pdef / Mres / Metal Res/ Wood Res / Water Res / Fire Res / Earth Res / HP / MP / Phys Penet / Mag Penet / Spirit / Acc / Evasion

Of those only 5 or 6 are actually useful for you class, let's be nice and say 6 of them are useful. And you can only get each stat a max of twice.

So what if you want all the stats on your chart to be good?

Well thats the same as having 12 useful stats in a pool of 32 without replacement and picking 10 of them.

Chance is (12!/ (10! * 2!)) / (32! / (10! * 22!)) = 0.000102% your chart will be the best. That's 1 in 977458.

So how hard is it to get 977458 10 stat star charts? Well you have a 100% chance at level 10, 10% chance to get a 10stat chart at Astral level 9, 1% at level 8, 0.1% at level 7, and 0.01% at level 6.

So what does this look like?
Lev	Total Number of 10stat star charts encountered.
1	0
2	0.00001834853605
3	0.0002175336687
4	0.00175549435
5	0.014852993
6	0.180400662
7	1.991219672
8	49.25049684
9	983.2322911
10	23441.63869
By the time you hit astral 10 you will only encounter 23441 10 stat charts. We want 977458 though so we need to buy another 954017 dust after we reach astral 10 to get it.

Total cost of a 10stat chart with 10 USEFUL stats = 135826 + 954017 = $1,089,843

for someone who already spent a lot of $ to get a 10 stat chart which is already in itself rare, you complain to an outstanding level. From what I can tell this is due to your chart not being perfect also. Reminds me of the the kid who had the top portion of his/her ice cream cone fall on the ground.

aeternusdoleo · September 2015

Guys... when war avatars first came out, people were saying the same thing about nuema portal. Impossibru to gets waa waa... But there's a bunch of people who have that already.
I'm sure in the future PWI will allow us to farm higher tier astrospiras and add more dailies for leveling that damn thing. It's a new toy. They're milking out their whales who will want to level it faster.

Didn't that big old tower (single player instance that's supposed to be coming next major patch) give a whole bunch of starchart items?

eirghan · October 2015

I was just discussing this with a friend, and realized that the farming cost of a chart with ten useful stats at 4.5m per 1G is: 4,904,293,500,000 coins. If you set up a wedge shop at the highest sell and lowest buy (on TT server) and merchant DODs, for example, you would have to buy and sell 122,608 DODs. If you bought and sold 1 a day it would take you 336 years to merchant your way to a useful star chart.

darkonome · January 2016

@asterelle can you make a calculator for star charts pretty please, like at each level/aptitude what the stats are per class

asterelle · January 2016

The issue is that it wouldn't be all that useful. There isn't any real decision to be made about star charts other than to feed them stuff and make the numbers go up.

Here are the mechanics though of how the stat scaling works.

Global level just makes numbers bigger for all the stats.
Aptitude makes the number bigger for the specific stat associated with that point.

There are 16 different kinds of stats you can get and they are all equally likely with the added constraint that you can only get a stat twice on the same chart.
The formula for the value of a stat is (25 + aptitude * level)*base value
With the base value depending on the stat type and the class from the following table:

Aptitude is a whole number you see in the circle.. not the decimal value you see in the tooltip.

darkonome · January 2016

Thanks. That's basically what I was looking for. Fatestar is always x2 or? I think I've seen it where it's not exactly double, may be mistaken.

asterelle · January 2016

The fate star aptitude is the sum of the aptitude of the two birth stars but you always round down for the calculation.
There is no other effect of the fate star other than it likely having a large aptitude. If you somehow had a fate star and a birth star on a star chart with the same aptitude (slightly possible) then they would have the same value.

Cash Shopper's Guide to Star Charts - These Costs Make Sense!

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