mystics in tw. thread. version 2.

Aziza_Atori - Archosaur

Yes I know there is a thread further down on the page but since its from last year I suppose it's considered dead. Well...case is that I did tw this night and my faction ordered me to stay at that crystal to heal it though I protested and tried to tell that mystics don't have a conciderable effect on the Crystal anymore as far as I know (ended up staying though since my niece screamed in the background and stressed Me out b:surrender) what I want to know is..did they change Crystal healing again or do my faction simply thinks that the crystals healing is a result of our plants? I'm plenty sure the Crystal has selfregeneration like the towers....so did they change it back when I was on break from pwi or did I seriously spend the tw healing a crystal that didn't need me at all? Can someone confirm once and for all if we can heal that crystal or not so I can tell my faction how it is since they insists the crystals recovery was the work of mystics?

Eoria - Harshlands

Your guild is dumb. Ignore them.

Zoldi - Morai

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Your guild is dumb. Ignore them.

100% this
Try to explain them. Otherwise it's maybe time to leave this one to go in a real faction.

xoinix

Mystics use to be able to heal the TW crystal with vital herb and some magical way it would count as a squad member. But you'd need @ least 5 or 6 mystics all casting vital together for it to be worth a damn. However that time has long since passed and mystics can no more heal the crystal than they can heal the cata's themselves. If your guild insist on wasting your DD power and Healing power on something pointless then I'd leve. b:bye

Aziza_Atori - Archosaur

Thanks guys. Now I can refer to this thread next time they try to let me rot in the base..I could've been much more useful as cata puller healer since I can survive the tower in case I get into range..or dd instead of healing a crystal that couldn't care less. The most annoying is that one of our catas needed me..he's sin so he need healing when taking down towers and together we are a great team to take down a tower undetected...he got discovered in last moment though and where were I? Stuck in base wasting my time on an ncp.

VitoryXXX - Archosaur

Well i never did TW's before because, well if honestly i cant be bothered joining TW faction and then listening to some 10 year old TELLING me what to do when to play and how active i have to be, i started playing to have fun and enjoy class i play not to follow orders.
Personally in that situation i would have done what i feel would be right to do because not everyone know your class and what you can do and just give dumb orders without knowing any better~

HideYoHubby - Archosaur

I am quite surprised of ignorance shown considering the group isnt exactly green in TW if I remember your faction correctly. Either way, while it was absolutely the worst call possible, following orders is indeed important. Everybody doing their own thing is a recipe for disaster as TW is really bout teamwork after all.

VitoryXXX - Archosaur

What i mean is if you know that it's the wrong decision and the one telling you to do is completely wrong then better to do the right thing instead of listening to someone who doesn't know what it's doing..
And since i don't take ordering and don't like to listening to people telling me what to do or not is the reason why i don't join a TW faction. That's why i am more of a solo player, i just do NW and i do it without squad, if i see someone need help i can do that without being in same squad.

bloodedone87

I would do what the faction say to me. then when the faction gets defeated I can tell them:
''Hey dont look at me. I was healing the crystal like you said me to do''

Aziza_Atori - Archosaur

Next time I will just disobey orders and go with my cata partner since I'm kind of his hp charm told my factionleader and he says he will check up on it

VitoryXXX - Archosaur

Well, as i mentioned i never been on TW before but i would assume the faction leader or whoever responsible for directing people should know about every class and everyone that is on TW in that faction, just to prevent dumb decisions....and if the leader is incapable of doing that and still does it...Personally i just wouldn't bother with that faction and move on to next (that is of course if i would be interested in TW factions in the first place~).

Aziza_Atori - Archosaur

Well the worst is that the other mystics insisted it worked as well and I'm pretty sure I'm senior to most mystics in my faction so they should have concidered my words..But again..the leader promised to look into it..I discussed it with friends from other factions and they all got like..what the....are your faction doing? If the leader still insist it works next tw I might move on

Zoldi - Morai

Aziza_Atori - Archosaur wrote: »

Well the worst is that the other mystics insisted it worked as well and I'm pretty sure I'm senior to most mystics in my faction so they should have concidered my words..But again..the leader promised to look into it..I discussed it with friends from other factions and they all got like..what the....are your faction doing? If the leader still insist it works next tw I might move on

According to me the question is not even to know if this works or not actually. I heard it did work in the past and never tried it out. I don't really know what your gears are but I think you said in another thread that you were R9.3. What a waste if you try to heal the cystal... Even if it worked (which is not the case), a mystic can do so many useful things in TW... Does your leader also ask his best geared members to stay on the ground to spy ?
That being said, it's important to follow orders in TW so I wouldn't advise you to do what you want in TW. But if the TW leader gives that kind of rules to follow... well... no point to go to TW with this kind of leader I'd say.

Aziza_Atori - Archosaur

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

According to me the question is not even to know if this works or not actually. I heard it did work in the past and never tried it out. I don't really know what your gears are but I think you said in another thread that you were R9.3. What a waste if you try to heal the cystal... Even if it worked (which is not the case), a mystic can do so many useful things in TW... Does your leader also ask his best geared members to stay on the ground to spy ?
That being said, it's important to follow orders in TW so I wouldn't advise you to do what you want in TW. But if the TW leader gives that kind of rules to follow... well... no point to go to TW with this kind of leader I'd say.

That is correct and I Also agree it was a waste but as I mentioned..had my niece screaming somewhere in the background so didn't have the energy to go against orders in that case. I prefer to either dd in tw or heal the catas...also if there's many people I know I can't take down I attempt to hide in the mayhem and use transfusion so the deitied dds can kill the opponents tanks faster. I'm not deitied or jaded and I'm not full +12 and I doubt that happen in near future so I have to consider when I can survive and when I'm more useful supporting the better sharded dds. I'm glad that we mystics are so flexible both in tw, nw and pve.

CapnK - Sanctuary

This is what I posted on my faction's forums for what a mystic should be doing in TW.

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Prior to TW, a mystic should give rez buff to as many people as possible. Cooldown prevents you from hitting everyone, usually I just buff all barbs and clerics (use the T menu filters to pick these classes out). Demon rez is better than Sage rez, but either is better than nothing. Demons should also apply Falling Petals to as many people as possible right before TW starts.



Inside TW, a mystic can serve well in a variety of situations. There are two places they excel though.

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On offense, a mystic is best suited as support for a cata barb. Mystic healing is extremely fast, they can actually heal single targets better than clerics can. This does not mean they are a replacement for clerics, as cleric buffs are very important. But the two classes together complement each other well, with the clerics buffing and the mystics healing. In general, you should spam Break in the Clouds on the barb and work in an occasional Falling Petals. If you have the 100 skill Swinging Cloud Dance, you can work that in the rotation for slightly increased heals per second. It's not a big increase though, so don't stress if you don't have the skill or got rid of it for Storm Dance.



Also make sure you keep rez buff on the barb, that way if they die they can pick up cata immediately without waiting for cleric rez. Rez buff can be purged though so you have to be watching for purge to cast it immediately.



Gaia's Blessing (AEU skill) should also be used when it is off cooldown; it's very strong squad healing that can't be interrupted once it is cast.

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On defense, a mystic is best suited as a cata barb killer. Mystics have the highest dps amongst caster classes (okay not anymore since I wrote this, but it's still very high dps), so they can keep up a constant stream of damage that will never let a barb have a break to rest. The most important skill for taking down a cata barb is Sublime Transfusion (AEU skill). When this is cast you drain 20-40% of *all* the barb's healing, whether from clerics, potions, or even charms. This is a colossal blow to a barb and unless you die quickly after casting it this skill virtually assures the death of the barb it is used on. If you do happen to die, resurrect yourself immediately. There is a small chance that the skill will continue in this situation.

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On either offense or defense, it's important to make use of your aoe debuffing plants. Listless Blossom is frequently not the best choice, as your teammates will usually be attacking the targets you put to sleep and wake them up immediately. Still a, quickly lysed Listless can buy a few precious seconds for your team to recover. Befuddling Creeper is a good all-purpose plant. The pdef and mdef debuff are minor, but it applies a rather sizeable decrease to channeling and attack speed. Spidervine is also nice for stifling enemy offense with an aoe debuff to attack and magic attack, as well as slowing enemies.

Falling Petals is always good to use on people around you as well; everyone loves a portable ironheart.

Bramble Tornado should be used cautiously. Pushing an enemy away from yourself usually tends to put them in a safer position closer to their teammates and farther from yours. I like to use it on BMs since it puts them out of range for whatever they were trying to do. It's also good for knocking enemies out of continuous aoes like Barrage or Dragon's Breath. If an enemy barb is in your base with a cata, try to get behind him and BT him closer to your spawn point. This puts him farther from his clerics, closer to your teammates, and may cause his cata to agro on one of the towers instead of the crystal.

Zoldi - Morai

Great post

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

Bramble Tornado should be used cautiously. Pushing an enemy away from yourself usually tends to put them in a safer position closer to their teammates and farther from yours. I like to use it on BMs since it puts them out of range for whatever they were trying to do. It's also good for knocking enemies out of continuous aoes like Barrage or Dragon's Breath. If an enemy barb is in your base with a cata, try to get behind him and BT him closer to your spawn point. This puts him farther from his clerics, closer to your teammates, and may cause his cata to agro on one of the towers instead of the crystal.

I do the same with BT on barbs. Not only on crystal but sometimes when I managed to get behind them. That way teamates can sometimes hit them without being in range of ennemies DD and the healers can be out of range for some time as well. Obviously this is situationnal and this would be dumb to do against a very aggressive and powerful opponent that is trying to reach the crystal as fast as possible. Pushing the barb on the right or on the left can also prove useful, especially if several mystics can do it together. Not easy to do though.