Raging Tide's TW Report - Week 7

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Colum - Raging Tide
Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
edited February 2015 in Tideswell (East)
Hi fellow readers, remember to give me your lovely detaily comments after your TWs end! b:victory You're also very welcome to contact me by a PM on forums or send me ingame mail.

PWE apparently has fix for the TW times but they haven't patched it yet b:angry

TERRITORY WARS

Territory War Weekend of 2/14/2015

Post TW map of Raging Tide - http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s587/scullreaper/2015-02-0801-09-38_zpsd7bcb271.png

Offense
Defense


Saturday (2/14/2015)

Vicious attacks Avalanche Canyon held by LEGIONES - 9:00 AM EST
QQme attacks Broken Plain held by LEGIONES - 9:03 AM EST
Marine attacks Shining Tide held by PILIPNAS - 9:06 AM EST
CRUSH attacks Walled Stronghold held by PILIPNAS - 9:09 AM EST
Vertu attacks Raging Tide held by BwareOfUs - 9:12 AM EST
Leviathan attacks Stairway to Heaven held by WalknDead - 9:15 AM EST
BlackList attacks Forest of Haze held by BloodBath - 9:18 AM EST
MYRMIDONE attacks Black Mountain held by Banana - 9:21 AM EST

BwareOfUs attacks Dawnglory held by CRUSH - 2:00 PM EST


Sunday (2/15/2015)


Guilds/Factions on the map not participating in TW this week

Tainted
AK47
Volt


TW predictions

Saturday (2/14/2015)

Vicious attacks Avalanche Canyon held by LEGIONES - Vicu

QQme attacks Broken Plain held by LEGIONES - QQmu

Marine attacks Shining Tide held by PILIPNAS - PILIPNAS defends

CRUSH attacks Walled Stronghold held by PILIPNAS - CRUSH wins

Vertu attacks Raging Tide held by BwareOfUs - <.< cant comment

Leviathan attacks Stairway to Heaven held by WalknDead - Leviathan wins

BlackList attacks Forest of Haze held by BloodBath - BlackList wins

MYRMIDONE attacks Black Mountain held by Banana - Banana defends

BwareOfUs attacks Dawnglory held by CRUSH - Bware wins


Sunday (2/15/2015)




Colum's random thoughts on this weeks turn out

Yep there we go... QQmu landlocked (unless they manage to defend)


TW Results! - 2/14/2015 (Saturday)

Vicious attacks Avalanche Canyon held by LEGIONES - Vicious takes Avalanche Canyon.

QQme attacks Broken Plain held by LEGIONES - QQme takes Broken Plain.

Marine attacks Shining Tide held by PILIPNAS - PILIPNAS keeps Shining Tidewood.

CRUSH attacks Walled Stronghold held by PILIPNAS - CRUSH takes Walled Stronghold.

Vertu attacks Raging Tide held by BwareOfUs - Wined, Vertu takes Raging Tide.

Leviathan attacks Stairway to Heaven held by WalknDead - Leviathan takes Stairway to Heaven.

BlackList attacks Forest of Haze held by BloodBath - BloodBath keeps Forest of Haze.

MYRMIDONE attacks Black Mountain held by Banana - MYRMIDONE takes Black Mountain.

BwareOfUs attacks Dawnglory held by CRUSH - BwareOfUs takes Dawnglory.


TW Results! - 2/15/2015 (Sunday)




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TW map of Raging Tide after wars - http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s587/scullreaper/2015-02-1421-21-45_zps489dd492.png
LAND COUNT

↑ = more land than last week
↓ = less land than last week
- = same amount as last week

Thanks Clergywoman for the idea b:pleased

LAST WEEK'S
Vicious - 9 ↑
BwareOfUs - 6 -
QQme - 7 ↑
Vertu - 7 ↑
CRUSH - 5 -
Leviathan - 5 ↑
LEGIONES - 4 -
PILIPNAS - 2 ↓
Banana - 2 ↑
Volt - 1 ↓
WalknDead - 1 -
Tainted - 1 -
AK47 - 1
BloodBath - 1

THIS WEEK'S
Vicious - 10 ↑
QQme - 8 ↑
Vertu - 8 ↑
BwareOfUs - 6 -
Leviathan - 6 ↑
CRUSH - 5 -
LEGIONES - 2 ↓
PILIPNAS - 1 ↓
Banana - 1 ↓
Volt - 1 -
Tainted - 1 -
AK47 - 1
BloodBath - 1
MYRMIDONE - 1


PREVIOUS WEEKS

Week 50
Week 51
Week 52
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6


PREVIOUS SEASONS

Season 6


I have no intention to insult anyone by these reports, I'm making them out of my pure interest and curiosity. I try to give my best effort to this and you, the TW players, can help me with that! Also any info about how the TW went after it happened from the TW fac officers or core members would be appreciated.
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  • Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide
    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    Colum I think you can comment on a TW that you will be a part of now. Since TW times are **** and Bware doesn't bring may people I think it is safe to say that we will win, unless they bring more people. I think that is a fair and unbiased opinion that shouldn't be considered trolling.
  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
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    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Colum I think you can comment on a TW that you will be a part of now. Since TW times are **** and Bware doesn't bring may people I think it is safe to say that we will win, unless they bring more people. I think that is a fair and unbiased opinion that shouldn't be considered trolling.

    b:chuckle That may be so, Zarkin, I will get hate PMs regardless what I say.
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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    what the beardman said. Bware will wine for the rest of the season period.
  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
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    i dont think they will once pwi fixes the tw times
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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
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    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide wrote: »
    i dont think they will once pwi fixes the tw times

    lol like Leviathan last season? right.
  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
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    DirtySouth - Raging Tide wrote: »
    lol like Leviathan last season? right.

    Didn't Levi defend us instead of Bware for the easy win, since they wanted to avoid a TW that might last longer than 45 minutes? Same concept they've been playing by for a while now :x
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    This is just my personal opinion, not related to the work I'm doing with these threads but..

    I'm honestly quite disappointed Bware keeps wining us. That way I do not get any TW experience (which would be fun) and I don't think that this way Bware will be able to truly imrpove either.
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  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
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    Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »
    This is just my personal opinion, not related to the work I'm doing with these threads but..

    I'm honestly quite disappointed Bware keeps wining us. That way I do not get any TW experience (which would be fun) and I don't think that this way Bware will be able to truly imrpove either.

    not only that but once again the whole server laugh at these big talkers whose aren't able to do anything. Pls do us a favor, move the whole faction to morai and stay there.
  • ZetsumieX - Raging Tide
    ZetsumieX - Raging Tide Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    i heard we are getting "punished" to "not get tw pay" cuz they wining us, that's BewareOfWine legit reason b:pleased
  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    Update done. Don't have much to say about short TWs.
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  • Facerolled - Raging Tide
    Facerolled - Raging Tide Posts: 334 Arc User
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    Im sorry to say this but seriously? Vertu people are gonna QQ about beware wining? SERIOUSLY? Last i checked most vertu ppl left Vicious cuz they were wining QQme too so please dont hate so much on someone wining cuz before u know its gonna be you too again...b:bye
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
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    Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Im sorry to say this but seriously? Vertu people are gonna QQ about beware wining? SERIOUSLY? Last i checked most vertu ppl left Vicious cuz they were wining QQme too so please dont hate so much on someone wining cuz before u know its gonna be you too again...b:bye

    Haven't been part of Vicious or any other TW faction before and I still think it's kinda lame to get wined, regardless where you are. At least considering that the difference between Vertu and BwareOfUs isn't as drastical as it would be comparing something like Vicious vs CRUSH.

    Edit: Keeping in mind that some Bware seem to be unhappy with the wining command. IMO they should be allowed to show up if they want to, though of course that is not my call. Just how I feel about it. It'd be great if Bware would consider the TWs more of an experience than waste of time.
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  • Madebyvisa - Raging Tide
    Madebyvisa - Raging Tide Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    (insert faction name) wines (insert QQ from same ppl every year) (insert remarks from the past)
    = RT's TW every season.. (insert snarky response) ... Rt will nvr change b:laugh
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  • Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide
    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide Posts: 452 Arc User
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    Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Im sorry to say this but seriously? Vertu people are gonna QQ about beware wining? SERIOUSLY? Last i checked most vertu ppl left Vicious cuz they were wining QQme too so please dont hate so much on someone wining cuz before u know its gonna be you too again...b:bye

    No, most of us left for:

    1) We did not like the direction the faction was heading
    2) We did not like who was being allowed into the faction
    3) We did not like that we had 120 members and only 60 members showing up for TW and nothing being done about it.
    4) We did not like the fact the rules and standards we not being enforced.

    Let me help you out before you post again. Step 1. Try and think before you post. Step 2. Check sources to see if they are accurate and/or true. Step 3. Use logic in forming a response. Step 4. Ignore all of this advice because lets face it, you are a troll and what you post is mostly illogical anyway.
  • antihero50
    antihero50 Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    50 not 60 zarkin and the person who wanted to or was for wining qqme was an officer in vici and is now in bware
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  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
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    Facerolled - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Im sorry to say this but seriously? Vertu people are gonna QQ about beware wining? SERIOUSLY? Last i checked most vertu ppl left Vicious cuz they were wining QQme too so please dont hate so much on someone wining cuz before u know its gonna be you too again...b:bye

    ...What? Faction doesn't like to do the wining, makes new faction, does not wine, does not like being wined.

    Science.
    It is said that apple pie is best served Al La Mode, so if you are the pie, consider me your ice cream.
  • voravat23
    voravat23 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    ty Colum

    MYRMIDONE vs Banana TW

    MYRMIDONE have ppl more than Banana MYRMI attend B lane around 15min MYRMI go inside base and take all Banana inside tower no stop pushing until 50-55min won b:thanks
  • BungaSakura - Raging Tide
    BungaSakura - Raging Tide Posts: 902 Arc User
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    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No, most of us left for:

    1) We did not like the direction the faction was heading
    2) We did not like who was being allowed into the faction
    3) We did not like that we had 120 members and only 60 members showing up for TW and nothing being done about it.
    4) We did not like the fact the rules and standards we not being enforced.

    Let me help you out before you post again. Step 1. Try and think before you post. Step 2. Check sources to see if they are accurate and/or true. Step 3. Use logic in forming a response. Step 4. Ignore all of this advice because lets face it, you are a troll and what you post is mostly illogical anyway.

    enjoy in vertu b:bye
  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
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    Saethos - Raging Tide wrote: »
    ...What? Faction doesn't like to do the wining, makes new faction, does not wine, does not like being wined.

    Science.

    this is exactly what i was thinking when i read fake boogies comment lol
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  • Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide
    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide Posts: 452 Arc User
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    BungaSakura - Raging Tide wrote: »
    enjoy in vertu b:bye

    Thank you. We are having fun here. Would be nice if they fixed TW times so we could have some good fights, but other than that it's all good here.
  • BungaSakura - Raging Tide
    BungaSakura - Raging Tide Posts: 902 Arc User
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    lol, whining of TW times? where is the hardcore TW????? imao
  • MrSmellAlot - Raging Tide
    MrSmellAlot - Raging Tide Posts: 21 Arc User
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    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No, most of us left for:

    1) We did not like the direction the faction was heading
    2) We did not like who was being allowed into the faction
    3) We did not like that we had 120 members and only 60 members showing up for TW and nothing being done about it.
    4) We did not like the fact the rules and standards we not being enforced.

    Let me help you out before you post again. Step 1. Try and think before you post. Step 2. Check sources to see if they are accurate and/or true. Step 3. Use logic in forming a response. Step 4. Ignore all of this advice because lets face it, you are a troll and what you post is mostly illogical anyway.

    Watever all you did was QQ and just gave up ppl like that are gonna just quit when things get rough there. Maybe if you don't like wined TWS you can head north towards a faction that won't wine you instead of talking bad about factions weaker. You can say nuff was doing nothing but in truth he brought the faction back after all. NUFF greatest leader in this game.
  • MrSmellAlot - Raging Tide
    MrSmellAlot - Raging Tide Posts: 21 Arc User
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    Saethos - Raging Tide wrote: »
    ...What? Faction doesn't like to do the wining, makes new faction, does not wine, does not like being wined.

    Science.

    FYI most of them were for wineing qqme too its why I said it.
  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
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    dont know why bunga is trying to bring vertu peeps down lol
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  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
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    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide wrote: »
    dont know why bunga is trying to bring vertu peeps down lol

    Apparently she doesn't know what whining looks like either :P
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  • Colum - Raging Tide
    Colum - Raging Tide Posts: 1,696 Arc User
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    I don't know why Vicious was even brought into this conversation...
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  • BungaSakura - Raging Tide
    BungaSakura - Raging Tide Posts: 902 Arc User
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    i dont know about whining? wine TW or not, if u do love TW, u always come at the best. u will never complaint, always there for TW. b:victory

    Btw, i put down on vertu? since when? imao.....

    as far as i remember there are some group people here that think they are always the best in PVP and TW. b:bye u can guess who they are.
  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
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    BungaSakura - Raging Tide wrote: »
    i dont know about whining? wine TW or not, if u do love TW, u always come at the best. u will never complaint, always there for TW. b:victory

    everyone always asks why there is wine after a tw, against a guild thats supposed to be able to challenge you.. but i do agree that DS gets annoying in WC after Bware puts up recruiting msgs

    BungaSakura - Raging Tide wrote: »
    as far as i remember there are some group people here that think they are always the best in PVP and TW. b:bye u can guess who they are.

    everyone that pks thinks they are the best...
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  • Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide
    Zarkin_Baxil - Raging Tide Posts: 452 Arc User
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    MrSmellAlot - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Watever all you did was QQ and just gave up ppl like that are gonna just quit when things get rough there. Maybe if you don't like wined TWS you can head north towards a faction that won't wine you instead of talking bad about factions weaker. You can say nuff was doing nothing but in truth he brought the faction back after all. NUFF greatest leader in this game.

    Look, do yourself a favor and stop posting now. You are just making yourself look stupid. You have no idea of what I did or did not do as an officer of Vicious. Also I never said anything bad about Nuff either. He wanted to take the faction in one direction, I didn't like it so I left. That doesn't make either of us bad people. We just didn't see eye to eye on most things. And please don't talk to me about when the going gets tough. I was there from pretty much the start and have been through all the highs and lows from when we first started fighting QQme. I have done the hard work, what have you done? Oh that's right, nothing, but make your faction look bad by making idiotic posts. And the line about weaker factions, all I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh that's a good one. And as for fighting Vicious, we can take at most 30 people to TW. You can take that many r9rr people, so yea it couldn't happen even if we wanted. Look I know you are nothing but a troll, but at least be good at it when you try to troll.
  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
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    BungaSakura - Raging Tide wrote: »
    i dont know about whining? wine TW or not, if u do love TW, u always come at the best. u will never complaint, always there for TW. b:victory

    Btw, i put down on vertu? since when? imao.....

    as far as i remember there are some group people here that think they are always the best in PVP and TW. b:bye u can guess who they are.

    Oh, not whining, WINING ok makes sense now.
    whine
    (h)wīn/
    verb
    gerund or present participle: whining

    give or make a long, high-pitched complaining cry or sound.
    "the dog whined and scratched at the back door"
    complain in a feeble or petulant way.
    "the waitress whined about the increased work"
    https://www.google.com/search?q=define+whining&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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