revamp/reviving nirvana instance

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

i was talking with a faction friend. so he and i were thinking and considering in what ways that nirvana if it were to be revived could be used for. So here are some of the possible ideas. Some of em are a possible coin sink that might help with gold cost.

Chest of coin boxes as drops from 1-2 bosses.

Holy pills as boss drops.

Chip packs either as boss drops or as a reward/exchange.

Perfect hammers as part of an exchange reward from tokens gotten from quests (2-3 for the run would work)

Dragon orbs 4-6/7* that can be gotten as a token/coin exchange that has a certain fee per orb.

Metal of glory and General summers token another reward exchange with fee.

Absent notes, either boss drops or reward exchange.


The coins/tokens will be gotten through the quests as well as making em a possible boss drop through out the entire instance. So if theres any objections or good sounding tips/advice that can be given here without any arguing and trolling. So any other ideas that can be tossed out on here, keep em within reason.

Salari - Raging Tide

remove cannies/raps from nw, niv now revamped and revived b:victory

myxnamexisxkira

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i was talking with a faction friend. so he and i were thinking and considering in what ways that nirvana if it were to be revived could be used for. So here are some of the possible ideas. Some of em are a possible coin sink that might help with gold cost.

Chest of coin boxes as drops from 1-2 bosses.

Holy pills as boss drops.

Chip packs either as boss drops or as a reward/exchange.

Perfect hammers as part of an exchange reward from tokens gotten from quests (2-3 for the run would work)

Dragon orbs 4-6/7* that can be gotten as a token/coin exchange that has a certain fee per orb.

Metal of glory and General summers token another reward exchange with fee.

Absent notes, either boss drops or reward exchange.


The coins/tokens will be gotten through the quests as well as making em a possible boss drop through out the entire instance. So if theres any objections or good sounding tips/advice that can be given here without any arguing and trolling. So any other ideas that can be tossed out on here, keep em within reason.

Ok heres the only probem i see with this. A lot of the items you just listed are either cashshop items or or tokens of luck items, or both. I dont see pwi allowing those items to be more readily available without a fee. Want a simple fix? throw it in the bh 100 mix.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

remove cannies/raps from nw, niv now revamped and revived b:victory

Wrong, if ya want nirv to be revamped and or revived, ya have to put something totally different than just raps and cannies. Plus with how r9s3 is the top gear set now, the instance itself would have to become almost as difficult as sot and aba.

myxnamexisxkira wrote: »

Ok heres the only probem i see with this. A lot of the items you just listed are either cashshop items or or tokens of luck items, or both. I dont see pwi allowing those items to be more readily available without a fee. Want a simple fix? throw it in the bh 100 mix.

bh100s could work, but theres a small problem with that idea even. In order for things like gsts and mogs to be given, they would have to be untradable and or be used in a totally different way. like add another npc to where ya can exchange gsts and mogs for smaller things such as part of the list ive mentioned above. Sure alot of those are cashshop/token items, but with the way tokens keep on fluxuating up and down like a rubber bouncing ball, theres no real way for players to be able to get those things with the way things are now.

So we either try and think of possible ways that pw could revive nirvana again or have em remove it permanately. All it is now is just an empty instance not being used just for players to stare at. Plus i think the list above does have potential if both pw and players can agree on it and or adjust it.

what i have in mind is a way for both sides of the coin to benefit from this. Players who want to go rank 9 can farm it easier than have 0-2 farming options as we're seeing currently which takes not months but bout 1-2yrs to complete and not everyone has the time, effort and resources to do that. So i still think that some of those things on that list can be used as a method of reviving nirvana.

PS: this could make nirvana into a coin sink instead of just a deserted instance. on top of that the keys would be used again, plus the talismans can still be used to exchange for chips, mirages and subs.

Desdi - Sanctuary

In an older, similar thread, I had suggested making Gems farm-able via Nirvana.
Gems aren't really that strong and endgame-ish like Vit.Stones, JOSD etc. but they can still give a nice little boost to people who can't afford better shards for whatever reason (focusing on refines first, low budget, etc.).

It could work this way: get new material(s) that is/are dropped from bosses or from the quest(s) to kill the bosses. Said material(s) is/are exchange at a forge/NPC for various items.

C packs could also be an option; people need a lot of C cards to level up their As and Ss.


I would want the new material to be trade-able or have the ability to be made tradeable for a small fee like FSP coins. This way people could sell the new materials to create a new market. People could farm it to make coin by selling it to those who have the coin to buy it but no time to farm it themselves.


With these changes in mind, it would also be a good idea to make the bosses a little more challenging, but not too hard. The way Nirvana is right now with the current gear standards we have, Nirvana would probably take 5 minutes to complete. Even a G16 Nirvana squad would just faceroll it.

Salari - Raging Tide

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wrong, if ya want nirv to be revamped and or revived, ya have to put something totally different than just raps and cannies. Plus with how r9s3 is the top gear set now, the instance itself would have to become almost as difficult as sot and aba.

what are you running sot/abba with npc gear? when has sot ever been hard even after it was changed? When was r9 not the top gear set? I must have missed something in the last 5 years

I think the real issue is to many diaper babies will start crying at how they have to farm or merchant or pay increased canny/rap prices to reforge their r9 gear which is what i and a lot of people had to do, to reforge their r9 gear but we were not crying about it.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

what are you running sot/abba with npc gear? when has sot ever been hard even after it was changed? When was r9 not the top gear set? I must have missed something in the last 5 years

I think the real issue is to many diaper babies will start crying at how they have to farm or merchant or pay increased canny/rap prices to reforge their r9 gear which is what i and a lot of people had to do, to reforge their r9 gear but we were not crying about it.

Who runs sot/aba with npc gear now days huh, no one does. But most would run sot/aba with at least tt90 which is below the revamped instances standards. Plus did i ever say it was hard after it was changed? no i didnt, i just said it became difficult. thats a big difference. You asked when r9 wasnt the top gear set? try back bout 4-6 yrs ago when the top gear was tt90/99 and no one complained bout those two instances being hard back then either. At least they were challenging enough though too.

Wanna talk bout diaper babies that start crying, sounds like your on the edge of that already. Plus this isnt bout some player who is crying their lil hearts out just cause they cant handle something. This is bout reviving and possibly revamping nirvana to where players might and possibly could run it again after it being used during the aps craze age. Nw already gives raps/cannies as it is, so why not just revamp a deserted instance where players can run for something that has an easier access to instead of having to charge real $$ for gold when they already knw that pw has neglected their job and duty to do anything to fix alot of the old things.

Plus with the way how pw is practially pushing r9 down the players throats like they are running a commercial ad saying "oh hey players time to get your hands on r9 cause its our superior gear, all you have to do is charge gold and it can be yours."


@desdi: Your reply/comment is exactly what id like to see with nirvana, since our current gear standards would be higher than what nirvana currently is. Just by tweeking the bosses and mobs slightly to some, it might make the instance more lively again.

heerohex#3018

Really gotta wait on this me thinks,

This has been said a lot of times and really needs to be looked over. For now im not going to log since im rather sure its already been logged.

I will review this in a few months time after the said update.

Thanks,

stfu0025

Please no, Nirvana was boring as hell, it is good where it is now

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear

stfu0025 wrote: »

Please no, Nirvana was boring as hell, it is good where it is now

Then ya might as well say that pw should remove the nirvana instance, except for the forges which can be placed somewhere else.

Salari - Raging Tide

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Who runs sot/aba with npc gear now days huh, no one does. But most would run sot/aba with at least tt90 which is below the revamped instances standards. Plus did i ever say it was hard after it was changed? no i didnt, i just said it became difficult. thats a big difference. You asked when r9 wasnt the top gear set? try back bout 4-6 yrs ago when the top gear was tt90/99 and no one complained bout those two instances being hard back then either. At least they were challenging enough though too.

Wanna talk bout diaper babies that start crying, sounds like your on the edge of that already. Plus this isnt bout some player who is crying their lil hearts out just cause they cant handle something. This is bout reviving and possibly revamping nirvana to where players might and possibly could run it again after it being used during the aps craze age. Nw already gives raps/cannies as it is, so why not just revamp a deserted instance where players can run for something that has an easier access to instead of having to charge real $$ for gold when they already knw that pw has neglected their job and duty to do anything to fix alot of the old things.

Plus with the way how pw is practially pushing r9 down the players throats like they are running a commercial ad saying "oh hey players time to get your hands on r9 cause its our superior gear, all you have to do is charge gold and it can be yours."


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wow you did not even get what I said

b:chuckle