Broken Promises

Guyin - Heavens Tear

DQ - Promise to replace the system over a year ago
Action - reduced value to 1 coin
Result - removed a means of game income - no new system as of yet
Armor Value - reduced to 10% of original value
Result - removed a means of game income
Coin Drops - reduced to a point of not worth picking up
Result - destroyed another element of making in game money
Auto Path - too many glitches to list
Result - mostly getting hung up on practically everything
Economy - without putting cash into this game, simple things like armor repair, teleporting, pots .....and just about everything that's needed has become impossible without cash.
Cost of armor/R9 - has risen while income is non-existent.
Result - many people have quit and migrated to other games.
Game Platform - extreme resource usage and Trojan like activity from files like pack.dll
Result - game lag, crash reports and diminished play-ability.
In-game Codes - stated they would be issued every week
Result - nothing for over a month - promises broken
Assessment - someone in management is making very poor decisions to promote this game, .....whatever/whenever items are given they are quite cheap ones and limited
.....untradeable, worthless value, time limited, or wrong gender when you really know what is .....correct

Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear

And people logging in multiple accounts at one time beyond the tos rules to gain profit by chance.b:laugh
Result:PW don't care so now they just have a game that look like they have a lot of people but in fact its just vets using old bit alts that used the lvl stone.

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

Guyin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

DQ - Promise to replace the system over a year ago
Action - reduced value to 1 coin
Result - removed a means of game income - no new system as of yet
What is jolly jones alts?

Armor Value - reduced to 10% of original value
Result - removed a means of game income
What is jolly jones alts?

Coin Drops - reduced to a point of not worth picking up
Result - destroyed another element of making in game money
What is jolly jones alts? Also, coin drops have always been ****, I haven't noticed any change recently

Auto Path - too many glitches to list
Result - mostly getting hung up on practically everything
Oh boohoo, god forbid you actually control your character, also there is no promise on this.

Economy - without putting cash into this game, simple things like armor repair, teleporting, pots .....and just about everything that's needed has become impossible without cash.
Cost of armor/R9 - has risen while income is non-existent.
Result - many people have quit and migrated to other games.
What is jolly jones alts? Also, R9 has been expensive as **** for a very long time now, this is nothing new and not controlled by PWE

Game Platform - extreme resource usage and Trojan like activity from files like pack.dll
Result - game lag, crash reports and diminished play-ability.
False negatives and stop playing on a toaster

In-game Codes - stated they would be issued every week
Result - nothing for over a month - promises broken
You don't read sparkie's posts a lot do you? He was put to a stop by higher ups

Assessment - someone in management is making very poor decisions to promote this game, .....whatever/whenever items are given they are quite cheap ones and limited
.....untradeable, worthless value, time limited, or wrong gender when you really know what is .....correct

Brah, do you even adjust?

Aubree - Dreamweaver

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Brah, do you even adjust?

PWI is the only game I know that actually has set the game up to require 50 million alts just to progress 1 toon.

JJ is not the fix, it's temporary until they nix that as well as the rest.

Soon we will also lose nirvy talismans for subs and mirages. Let me predict 30k+ mirages in our future.

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

PWI is the only game I know that actually has set the game up to require 50 million alts just to progress 1 toon.

JJ is not the fix, it's temporary until they nix that as well as the rest.

Soon we will also lose nirvy talismans for subs and mirages. Let me predict 30k+ mirages in our future.

Hi, what is UCH? Oh right, that instance that no one does because
"It takes too much time" or "It's too hard".
Well, ok if you don't want the mirage boxes.

And if subs are going to be expensive, then there's maybe a reason again for people to farm them, but ok i'll give people the argument about farm bots.
b:avoid and it's not like some factions use farm bots, right?

Aubree - Dreamweaver

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hi, what is UCH? Oh right, that instance that no one does because
"It takes too much time" or "It's too hard".
Well, ok if you don't want the mirage boxes.

And if subs are going to be expensive, then there's maybe a reason again for people to farm them, but ok i'll give people the argument about farm bots.
b:avoid and it's not like some factions use farm bots, right?

UCH is a waste of time unless you need the blood or stones. TBH when mirages hit 30k you would still be better off farming TT for 30 mins than spending 1 hour in UCH for chance at getting the fairy box drops... Which you may only open 6 a day but after 3x run UCH you probably have like 2 boxes anyway.

I stopped forming UCH when I finished my skills. Won't be going back. Complete waste of time.

Zoldi - Morai

Guyin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Economy - without putting cash into this game, simple things like armor repair, teleporting, pots .....and just about everything that's needed has become impossible without cash.

Seriously ? I do agree with some of your points, but this one is just ridiculous !

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide

Broken promises? In a game? Whew, be prepared...life is gonna suck when you get older. b:laugh

ZentDreigon - Raging Tide

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Brah, do you even adjust?

Because people are not lazy and adapt to change.

/Sarcasm

Evryn - Morai

Guyin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

DQ - Promise to replace the system over a year ago
Action - reduced value to 1 coin
Result - removed a means of game income - no new system as of yet

Also result: Gold available in the AH again. Massive botfarm users crying sweet, salty tears. Countless sin alts out of a job.
Overall effect on community: Positive.

Armor Value - reduced to 10% of original value
Result - removed a means of game income

Wasn't a big moneymaker to begin with, so no big loss there. Can still decompose gear for geniefood/flyerfuel.

Coin Drops - reduced to a point of not worth picking up
Result - destroyed another element of making in game money

Coin drops are unchanged since the time I began playing here. They're worth picking up, in fact, on autoculti they account for the majority of your moneymaking now.

Auto Path - too many glitches to list
Result - mostly getting hung up on practically everything

As opposed to having to manually walk everywhere? Autopath is handy, but not perfect. When I started playing there WAS no autopath. It can get you from A to B in most situations...

Economy - without putting cash into this game, simple things like armor repair, teleporting, pots .....and just about everything that's needed has become impossible without cash.
Cost of armor/R9 - has risen while income is non-existent.
Result - many people have quit and migrated to other games.

Farming R9 has always been something that took months. People these days just look for the quick way to the top and refuse to spend the same amount of time to get there as the existing players. PWI catered to them with the levelup pill, which resulted in undergeared highlevels.
Cost for R9 has remained constant. When farmed, cost has actually gone down because gold prices are lower now. The only people who bawl at the cost are the people who had their majority of their income come from botting.

Game Platform - extreme resource usage and Trojan like activity from files like pack.dll
Result - game lag, crash reports and diminished play-ability.

If referring to ARC - you don't need it to play PWI. I don't run it myself, unless I need to redeem some codes. Virus scanner false positives happen with many applications, not just this game.

In-game Codes - stated they would be issued every week
Result - nothing for over a month - promises broken

As Sparky said, this is due to people abusing the codes and reselling/muling over the items given through catshops. The devs are supposed to be fixing this, after that the codes will resume. ('Though granted, like the DQ reward system - see first, believe later).

Assessment - someone in management is making very poor decisions to promote this game, .....whatever/whenever items are given they are quite cheap ones and limited
.....untradeable, worthless value, time limited, or wrong gender when you really know what is .....correct

Ohmygosh. You're given something for free but are then whining on what is being given? You know, PWI should just, for the lulz of it, give ALL players an item that gives 100 bound +12 orbs, 200 Big Notes, an item that gives 300k rep, 19 MoGs, 215 GSTs, 10 Summerwind Tokens... Free full +12 R9.3 for all! Would that make you happy?

Seriously, if you can't use what you're given, npc it and move on. Gratitude is a trait lost on you apparantly...

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

Evryn - Morai wrote: »

Also result: Gold available in the AH again. Massive botfarm users crying sweet, salty tears. Countless sin alts out of a job.
Overall effect on community: Positive.


Wasn't a big moneymaker to begin with, so no big loss there. Can still decompose gear for geniefood/flyerfuel.


Coin drops are unchanged since the time I began playing here. They're worth picking up, in fact, on autoculti they account for the majority of your moneymaking now.


As opposed to having to manually walk everywhere? Autopath is handy, but not perfect. When I started playing there WAS no autopath. It can get you from A to B in most situations...


Farming R9 has always been something that took months. People these days just look for the quick way to the top and refuse to spend the same amount of time to get there as the existing players. PWI catered to them with the levelup pill, which resulted in undergeared highlevels.
Cost for R9 has remained constant. When farmed, cost has actually gone down because gold prices are lower now. The only people who bawl at the cost are the people who had their majority of their income come from botting.


If referring to ARC - you don't need it to play PWI. I don't run it myself, unless I need to redeem some codes. Virus scanner false positives happen with many applications, not just this game.


As Sparky said, this is due to people abusing the codes and reselling/muling over the items given through catshops. The devs are supposed to be fixing this, after that the codes will resume. ('Though granted, like the DQ reward system - see first, believe later).


Ohmygosh. You're given something for free but are then whining on what is being given? You know, PWI should just, for the lulz of it, give ALL players an item that gives 100 bound +12 orbs, 200 Big Notes, an item that gives 300k rep, 19 MoGs, 215 GSTs, 10 Summerwind Tokens... Free full +12 R9.3 for all! Would that make you happy?

Seriously, if you can't use what you're given, npc it and move on. Gratitude is a trait lost on you apparantly...

^^ This.

Except for that last section. Private servers already do **** like that, and they are even more **** to play on than PWI for the most part because of it.

Also, the OP didn't mention a single promise, so it kinda makes you wonder what they're smokin' over there.

Joe - Morai

The game and ingame economy improved quite a bit lately in nearly any way. Sure there is still some content missing and some bugs appeared but that was always the case. The lack of codes is sad...but hell...we used to live without them so whycry now?

Gold is at 2.9m on Morai DURING a chip sale. This is by far better than I would've ever dreamed of. Do I need to say more. It's a paradise again. A paradise for people actually putting effort in it. The rest vanishes either way..sooner or later.

skullterror

Step 1:
Chose a class and make a toon that you want to be your main and you want to get R9 for him.

Make 3 other toons on your acount and lvl them up:
First toon till lvl51
Second toon till lvl61
Third toon till lvl71
If you got 2 or more acounts thats even better.
Start doing Bounty Orders Quests at Jolly Old Jones that can be found at old starter place for human, elfs and untamed.
You get 7 bounty orders per toon and money for accepting the orders
For level 51 -110000 coins and 61k for each quest completed
For lvl61-131000coins and 73k for each quest completed
for lvl71-158000coins and 88k for each quest completed.
So per day you get aprox: 1,8mil or more( depends on how many times you will use the service of teleport master cause you need to do that for some joj quests)
If you got 2 acounts which most people do ,you can make 3,6mil per day
In a weak that will be 25milions.
In a month that will be 100 milions
In 2 months you get 200milions.

Now lets return to your main that in this time has been leveled up to 100, maybe even reborn twice and lvl up again.
Use money that you got using JOJ toons and get yourself TT99 gear.
Starting from lvl60 do NW every friday and sunday and colect suplies tokens.
Use those to make rapture and uncanie crystals and upgrade your TT99 to T1 and then T2
Refine your gear to a +5 and start learning and doing FWS. Colect badges and T3 molds suitable for your type of class.
Arcane class like: wizard, cleric, mystic, venomancer, stormbringer, psychic colect T3 molds for armor with the name Awakened Archangel in it.
Heavy armor class like Seeker, Blademaster and Barbarian get molds with Awakened Lionheart in the name.
Light class like Assassin, Duskblade, Archer gets mold with Awakened Ashura in the name.
Get the ones you need for your class and also get the mold you need for your weapon class.
Get EOD and EOO and upgrade your T2 gear to T3 also known as G16.
EOO you can get from the last boss in WS and its random. Use that to make your T2 weapon a T3 one.
EOD you can get from Lunar and its random if the 6 players contributed with money(500k each) to open the instance or it goes to you if you alone payed 3milions to open Lunar.
Use they EODs to make your T2 armor a T3 one.
I hoped in this time you continued doing JOJ quests.
If you did: GOOD.
Use those money to refine your T3 gear to a +7. Shard your armor too.
its good if you got more than 8k hp.

Now start farming money for your R9

Farm TT, FSP, Delta, Lunar, FWS.
Farm mats in world map and sell them
Farm herbs, increase your apothecary skills. farm herbs again and make potions and charms you can sell.
DO NW and make rapture, cannies, SOW and other things you can sell.

See OP you can make money in this game if you put your mind to work eevn if the DQ and items price has been lowered.
And I believe that there are also other metods to start your journey in getting R9 gear.

xxxxjayxxxx

Guyin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Economy - without putting cash into this game, simple things like armor repair, teleporting, pots .....and just about everything that's needed has become impossible without cash.

I dont have any issues whatsoever as a lvl 100+ toon making coin to cover repairs and such so ill assume you are refering to newer toons. Not once have i moved money from my main toon to my stormbringer and not once have i needed to. Quests give sooooooo much coin and the exp is pretty good as well.

Zoldi - Morai

Joe - Morai wrote: »

The game and ingame economy improved quite a bit lately in nearly any way. [...]
Gold is at 2.9m on Morai DURING a chip sale. This is by far better than I would've ever dreamed of. Do I need to say more. It's a paradise again. A paradise for people actually putting effort in it. The rest vanishes either way..sooner or later.

Totally ! OP talks about the fact that the game is now only for cashers 'cause he has no clue what he's talking about !
For the F2P players that want to buy R9 or catalyzers, the situation is better now than a few weeks ago. Some people just look at how many coins they have without wondering about the value of tvose coins. You now need less coins to buy gold so it's not a problem having a little less coins (we were in a situation where buying gold was sometimes even not possible because of the limitation in AH...)
Obviously what I say is true for the people who need to get gold without charging (or to buy cogs/gemms/FSCoins/... in shops since the prices decreased as well) and this is not that true for the people who only need coins for tp/repair/pots. But if you really can't earn enough money for that... well... there is something weird...)

Evryn - Morai

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

Except for that last section. Private servers already do **** like that, and they are even more **** to play on than PWI for the most part because of it.

Was being sarcastic about the free +12 R9. 'Though that would level the playing field...

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Gold is at 2.9m on Morai DURING a chip sale. This is by far better than I would've ever dreamed of. Do I need to say more. It's a paradise again. A paradise for people actually putting effort in it. The rest vanishes either way..sooner or later.

3.1 last I checked... but still, a whole lot better then the "no gold available" times during the botting craze (which granted, I too participated in - but I'm not sad at all to see that time behind us). Well. Sorta. The major botters still have reserves but those won't last forever...

Quilue - Sanctuary

I do believe we were promised a new DQP system though.

bluestuffzzz

I'll chime in briefly...

The OP does have a point, guys. If you try to disprove some of what he stated, you would be hard pressed to find errors. Sparkie and PWE have said we are to get many things, and many things are not here. That's on them.