Veno, non gender locked

Tiramnia - Sanctuary
Tiramnia - Sanctuary Posts: 167 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Suggestion Box
Now before anyone says this, I know the origins of why Veno is gender locked.....However there is a workaround with that. Now this is as far as I know predominantly Japanese but they have Yokai, which are essentially demon spirits. Within the Yokai they have Kitsune which literally means fox but as a Yokai it is a fox demon. They are male AND female. There are also Tengu which are crow people. So yes the veno is based of the fox demons who were known to be very beautiful alluring women. I think it would be pretty cool having no gender lock on the veno specifically but also on the barbarians!

For the barbarians it would be good if there was a bit more customization available but I may make a new post in terms of customization. Anyway for the barbs I think there also shouldn't be a gender lock, and before anyway says but who wants a big hairy she man? Well it doesn't have to have a male build, it could essentially look like a furry which wouldn't be so bad.

Essentially no gender lock at all in the game. Also I do realise that it would mean that a new design and integration of this would have to happen and I also realise this has been mentioned many times in the past, but it could be much more readily desirable and considered if concept art was made and how this could be integrated into the game.
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  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Now before anyone says this, I know the origins of why Veno is gender locked.....However there is a workaround with that. Now this is as far as I know predominantly Japanese but they have Yokai, which are essentially demon spirits. Within the Yokai they have Kitsune which literally means fox but as a Yokai it is a fox demon. They are male AND female. There are also Tengu which are crow people. So yes the veno is based of the fox demons who were known to be very beautiful alluring women. I think it would be pretty cool having no gender lock on the veno specifically but also on the barbarians!

    For the barbarians it would be good if there was a bit more customization available but I may make a new post in terms of customization. Anyway for the barbs I think there also shouldn't be a gender lock, and before anyway says but who wants a big hairy she man? Well it doesn't have to have a male build, it could essentially look like a furry which wouldn't be so bad.

    Essentially no gender lock at all in the game. Also I do realise that it would mean that a new design and integration of this would have to happen and I also realise this has been mentioned many times in the past, but it could be much more readily desirable and considered if concept art was made and how this could be integrated into the game.

    This has been suggested over and over, and while a large majority of the community would like it, it's been declared highly unlikely to ever happen. Their reasoning was, as you cited, the idea that the veno has a basis in Asian mythology, and they're female in the mythology used.
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  • Tiramnia - Sanctuary
    Tiramnia - Sanctuary Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    This has been suggested over and over, and while a large majority of the community would like it, it's been declared highly unlikely to ever happen. Their reasoning was, as you cited, the idea that the veno has a basis in Asian mythology, and they're female in the mythology used.

    Well how about then not using veno as a basis? Like I explained about the yokai? It would be very easy to create a race out of them. Though correct me if I am wrong but aren't most suggestions unlikely to happen? Lets say that someone proposed a really amazing design with the concept I mentioned about the yokai to back up why it would work with the untamed even in terms of mythology.
  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Well how about then not using veno as a basis? Like I explained about the yokai? It would be very easy to create a race out of them. Though correct me if I am wrong but aren't most suggestions unlikely to happen? Lets say that someone proposed a really amazing design with the concept I mentioned about the yokai to back up why it would work with the untamed even in terms of mythology.

    What I meant by "unlikely to happen" is that it has a snowball's chance in hell. Variants of the same suggestion have been posted hundreds of times, and with the same result - nothing.

    However, interestingly enough, there were actually posts suggesting races similar to what we just got. I don't know if someone managed to datamine the server-side to figure out that they were actually in the code or if PWCN actually took the suggestion and made it a reality, but it was definitely interesting.
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  • Tiramnia - Sanctuary
    Tiramnia - Sanctuary Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    There is always hope! I believe in myself, I also do believe that if someone come sup with something brilliant PWE will probably consider it =) PWE is one company I really like, and that I feel rewards the people in the community. They also bring out expansions in really good timing, just when you start getting bored they bring out something to get back into it. But maybe I could really make a big detailed plan with designs and all and send it to PWE. I have no idea how to get it to them but I will find a way b:victory
  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    What I meant by "unlikely to happen" is that it has a snowball's chance in hell. Variants of the same suggestion have been posted hundreds of times, and with the same result - nothing.

    However, interestingly enough, there were actually posts suggesting races similar to what we just got. I don't know if someone managed to datamine the server-side to figure out that they were actually in the code or if PWCN actually took the suggestion and made it a reality, but it was definitely interesting.

    I think about a year back, maybe longer someone was posting about different class weapons being in the files. I may be wrong.
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  • Tiramnia - Sanctuary
    Tiramnia - Sanctuary Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Well if people wanted to give me there ideas, I could try my best to make concepts that would genuinely work, along with art, I know a few good art students who would be happy to help me out b:cute

    Krittycat, so very sorry I didnt see the what not to post, I kinda skimmed haha and just past it!
  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I think about a year back, maybe longer someone was posting about different class weapons being in the files. I may be wrong.

    Yeah, but I'm meaning the whole Nightshade idea. That was part of a gigantic suggestion made a while back. I'm curious now if the person did a really good datamine, or if China actually took that post and made it a reality.
    Krittycat, so very sorry I didnt see the what not to post, I kinda skimmed haha and just past it!

    No big deal. You're not the first, and you sure as heck won't be the last, so don't sweat it.b:mischievous
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  • Tiramnia - Sanctuary
    Tiramnia - Sanctuary Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Do you think collecting ideas and compiling them and refining them into legitimate concepts potentially with art design would be a good idea? Do you think anyone would go for that if it was offered so then collectively given to PWE
  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Your points are not bad, but good luck if you hope that PWE will forward them to Wanmei.
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  • Tiramnia - Sanctuary
    Tiramnia - Sanctuary Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Your points are not bad, but good luck if you hope that PWE will forward them to Wanmei.

    Hahaha I think skill is more what is needed in this, hey maybe a whole new game will come outta it!
  • Klinsy - Dreamweaver
    Klinsy - Dreamweaver Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    This has been suggested over and over, and while a large majority of the community would like it, it's been declared highly unlikely to ever happen. Their reasoning was, as you cited, the idea that the veno has a basis in Asian mythology, and they're female in the mythology used.
    But do they drive Chronobikes in the mythology used? b:chuckle
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  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    But do they drive Chronobikes in the mythology used? b:chuckle

    I'm just giving their reasons. I didn't say they made sense.b:mischievous
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  • Tiramnia - Sanctuary
    Tiramnia - Sanctuary Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Hahaha oh that is funny, well maybe I could use that as a point
  • Chrisalys - Dreamweaver
    Chrisalys - Dreamweaver Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Now before anyone says this, I know the origins of why Veno is gender locked.....However there is a workaround with that. Now this is as far as I know predominantly Japanese but they have Yokai, which are essentially demon spirits. Within the Yokai they have Kitsune which literally means fox but as a Yokai it is a fox demon. They are male AND female. There are also Tengu which are crow people. So yes the veno is based of the fox demons who were known to be very beautiful alluring women. I think it would be pretty cool having no gender lock on the veno specifically but also on the barbarians!

    For the barbarians it would be good if there was a bit more customization available but I may make a new post in terms of customization. Anyway for the barbs I think there also shouldn't be a gender lock, and before anyway says but who wants a big hairy she man? Well it doesn't have to have a male build, it could essentially look like a furry which wouldn't be so bad.

    Essentially no gender lock at all in the game. Also I do realise that it would mean that a new design and integration of this would have to happen and I also realise this has been mentioned many times in the past, but it could be much more readily desirable and considered if concept art was made and how this could be integrated into the game.

    Ok ok, makes sense but the game is CHINESE.
    That idea for them is just like "Make a Jesus with a Mohawk" in the "rest of the world", just doesn't go well with religious people and that kind of disrespect with people's beliefs should be avoided.

    Again, venomancers and barbs are created using that very specific chinese mithology of the werefox and werebeast, its like trying to remove unicorns horn or dragon's wings.
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  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,885 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    Sorry But for now this will not be the case.

    Even with the Gender Change stone POSSIBLY... This has still been locked to the other classes.

    Since this is in the most suggested and well on the cards I can log this.

    Thanks,
  • Shidoshi - Lost City
    Shidoshi - Lost City Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    it'll never happen cause pwi don't care about thier community players and just does what china says. so the'll just sit their and collect the thousands of dollar that is poured into the game.
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  • sinithsky
    sinithsky Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Now this is as far as I know predominantly Japanese but they have Yokai, which are essentially demon spirits. Within the Yokai they have Kitsune which literally means fox but as a Yokai it is a fox demon.}
    That's part of the problem.Yokai are japanese mythology,and PWI is Chinese mythology
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