class to boost for money making

TieIer - Dreamweaver

hey guys ill be feting back into this game with the upcoming expansion and was wondering what class should i boost to 95? id like to boost whatever has the easiest time making money i think it used to be sin but im not sure what it is now. i currently have a level 75 or so reawakened seeker but i dont really feel like grinding him back to 100

gamer4jesus

It used to be a Venomancer. And I don't see any reason it is different now.

GreenLegend - Archosaur

I believe the fastest farmer remains a sin, at least in my opinion if built/geared properly.

Although the new class, Duskblade, seems like a contender for some nice farming.

TieIer - Dreamweaver

is auto culting a decent way to make money now? or are drops still not worth it?

MyMate - Dreamweaver

TieIer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

is auto culting a decent way to make money now? or are drops still not worth it?

It is right now, but after the expansion ALL DQ items will be worthless. So auto-cultivation will be pretty much useless for farming coins ^^

Fail_BM - Raging Tide

APS class I guess, mystics can do the job too. Just remember you have to invest some coins on that new boosted character that doesn't have gear nor skills.

Father_gold - Sanctuary

if on your account and you have the gear to stash over, sin or bm.

if you are capable and have 100+ gear and event gold, cleric or barb. why? because if you level to 100 and RB, you will never have trouble finding a squad for primal instances or BH's or AEU.

if you just plan to auto-culti, stay away from mages because mana-costs hurt profits (setting up auto-pot with all those pots you will be picking up kind of solve that problem but still its costing you something)

if you have the gear again an archer would also be good for auto-culti. i think it takes a bit more finesse to auto culti on archer over sin or bm.

Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear

Why do people think they have to grind or run TT to make coin?

Simple way is:Run cube of fate daily.Make CoF letters from tiger event or Join luminance to make 1 CoF a day free,well you need 5k pres and 20 influ.Running cube x2 on a toon is around 6mill+ depending on how much you spend on the run but you still make great bank selling cog to catshops or in your own shop.

RA~run fsp get the coins/c-packs to sell.Great lil boost of coin.

Run BH's if your lvl 100 the chances for 2-5mill aren't bad and mirages,socketstones to sell.

Warsong can bring in a portion also.


Other than that you can pointlessly afk grind until dq are 1coin on next expansion.


good luck.

Cotillion - Dreamweaver

Father_gold - Sanctuary wrote: »

if you have the gear again an archer would also be good for auto-culti. i think it takes a bit more finesse to auto culti on archer over sin or bm.

Archer has been the best bot I've had....though you're right - if you have appropriate gear for it, foremost a decent weapon. Melees and long-casting AA's that well out-gear one of my archer bots have tried to steal spots from her and can't, simply due to the archers range and getting the initial big hit in on mobs. Works even better if you have some interval gear on them. Heal on spark and use the ammo that they pick up.

Of course, botting is moot for money making on Dec 17th, if the DQ nerf is in our expansion.

bloodedone87

Poopinpanto - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why do people think they have to grind or run TT to make coin?

Simple way is:Run cube of fate daily.Make CoF letters from tiger event or Join luminance to make 1 CoF a day free,well you need 5k pres and 20 influ.Running cube x2 on a toon is around 6mill+ depending on how much you spend on the run but you still make great bank selling cog to catshops or in your own shop.

RA~run fsp get the coins/c-packs to sell.Great lil boost of coin.

Run BH's if your lvl 100 the chances for 2-5mill aren't bad and mirages,socketstones to sell.

Warsong can bring in a portion also.


Other than that you can pointlessly afk grind until dq are 1coin on next expansion.


good luck.

Not all people like Cube or know how to do Cube. Persoanally i hate cube.

MyMate - Dreamweaver

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Not all people like Cube or know how to do Cube. Persoanally i hate cube.

And that is relevant in what way? OP asked how to make coin, Cube is one way to do it.

scythecaster

what i do to make money nowadays is make jolly quest alts.

lv 50 is fairly easy to get to and just talking to him nets you like 110k. Then doing the bounty quests he gives gives 61k per token (he gives you 7). For 1 lvl 50 char that is 537k in a day. make 8 chars on a single account and you could be seeing up to about 4m per day. 5-6m if you manage to get them all to 70.

i'm not going to lie, it is very tedious work. But it's very worth it if you want to play this game for free.

Edit: Making a seeker alt could work as well (provided you have gear at the ready), As i imagine people will be boosting other classes to 95 and wanting to do PV to PLVL, you could sell yourself, Or sell as PV opener for 200-300k. Probably more since there will be a large influx of lv 95 players quickly trying to get to lv100.

mightymoose

scythecaster wrote: »

what i do to make money nowadays is make jolly quest alts.

lv 50 is fairly easy to get to and just talking to him nets you like 110k. Then doing the bounty quests he gives gives 61k per token (he gives you 7). For 1 lvl 50 char that is 537k in a day. make 8 chars on a single account and you could be seeing up to about 4m per day. 5-6m if you manage to get them all to 70.

I thought you can only do the quest once per account per level range. What would be the point of 8 lv50s on a single account? Wouldn't they have to be on different accounts for this to work?

scythecaster

oh i guess ur right b:chuckle i've been focused on getting my alts on the same acc to 50, so i never really noticed that you could only do it once per day per lv range nvm with my ideab:shocked

TieIer - Dreamweaver

scythecaster wrote: »

what i do to make money nowadays is make jolly quest alts.

lv 50 is fairly easy to get to and just talking to him nets you like 110k. Then doing the bounty quests he gives gives 61k per token (he gives you 7). For 1 lvl 50 char that is 537k in a day. make 8 chars on a single account and you could be seeing up to about 4m per day. 5-6m if you manage to get them all to 70.

i'm not going to lie, it is very tedious work. But it's very worth it if you want to play this game for free.

Edit: Making a seeker alt could work as well (provided you have gear at the ready), As i imagine people will be boosting other classes to 95 and wanting to do PV to PLVL, you could sell yourself, Or sell as PV opener for 200-300k. Probably more since there will be a large influx of lv 95 players quickly trying to get to lv100.

are you able to do PV after you re awaken? that should be really easy with the gear i already have at level 70

bloodedone87

MyMate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And that is relevant in what way? OP asked how to make coin, Cube is one way to do it.

I didnt give an answer to the OP. I give an answer to the person I quoted. If I wanted to give an answer to the OP i would have quoted the OP.

Satyrion - Sanctuary

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Not all people like Cube or know how to do Cube. Persoanally i hate cube.

And just like some people hates cube, some hates TT.

WannaBM - Archosaur

Money making used to be the equivalent of soling TT 2-3 and if possible 3-3

I left the game 2 months ago, by that time the TT market was already dying. From what i gather, there has been more 2x and its gotten worse.

I think TM lunar is now the way to make money. If not selling the runs for capes (very anoying to gather customers and then have some that cant stay for 8 runs etc), then the defence charms and the apoths.

For TM lunar you need a toon that has a good combination of AOE abilities and single target boss killing. The BM is imo the best toon for this, followed by the demon APS barb. HF+sunder-arma allows it to be done with both toons G16 geared. In R9+10, the BM can just about solo it except for the bosses taking too long.

It takes some decent gear (the G16 needs to be well refined and accompanied by well refined mdef ornies) but since you probably are going to keep developing your toon anyway, i would not aim for the first cheapest opportunity to make a little money, but rather for the eventual best way to provide income. And even in a changing game, in the future i would be surprised if the BM will not always remain one of the top farmers because of its versatility. After all, even if the sin might be marginally faster in TT, it lacks the versatility and the BM is a pretty decent TT farmer also.

Jaabg - Sanctuary

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

After all, even if the sin might be marginally faster in TT, it lacks the versatility and the BM is a pretty decent TT farmer also.

The only plus point i have found for a sin over a bm is in tt 3-2 and 3-3. Where the sin can tele straight to a boss, while the bm has to run through mobs. Even at that point, the bm takes 1~2 minutes to get there. Nothing major.

Beside that, most cookie cut sins that can solo 3-x, can not do tm lunar solo, or lunar easily compared to a bm, barb.

Mystics are a rival for tm lunar, if r9 3rd cast and well refined in terms of speed. But the bm gets the same job done, in fewer coins and costs usually.

I am glad i stuck with my bm, now i find it fun to solo tm lunar. TT 3-x is fun as well, since i am new to farming it. Making lunar weapons is a profitable enterprise now.

Evryn - Morai

Personally I'd advise a ranged character with high spike damage. Archers, but especially arcane characters (Psy, Wizard, Mystic) are well-suited for autogrinding even if the DQ items become worthless. Simply expand the inventory and rely on the random gear you find.

I'm going to boost a Barb and a Psy myself. Barb for FSP mainly (same acct as my bm - he'll get the old gear of that one when my BM goes R9) and Psy just 'cause I'm curious about the class. Other nice classes to fast level are Cleric and Veno... at least on Morai there seems to be a shortage of those - but for Venos leveling the pet(s) might be a pain.

bloodedone87

Evryn - Morai wrote: »

Personally I'd advise a ranged character with high spike damage. Archers, but especially arcane characters (Psy, Wizard, Mystic) are well-suited for autogrinding even if the DQ items become worthless. Simply expand the inventory and rely on the random gear you find.

I'm going to boost a Barb and a Psy myself. Barb for FSP mainly (same acct as my bm - he'll get the old gear of that one when my BM goes R9) and Psy just 'cause I'm curious about the class. Other nice classes to fast level are Cleric and Veno... at least on Morai there seems to be a shortage of those - but for Venos leveling the pet(s) might be a pain.

I wont advise arcane toons to be used on botting.Especially psychics. maybe if they are already lvl 100 with T3 and R9 gear and can 1 shot mobs.
If not they will consume alot of mana. And people will have to chose carefully what mobs to bott against.

Assassin is the best option to bott with. Just put there BP to rebuff you at a certain time you chose. Get an HP charm just in case something bad may happen( Idk what but yu never know). Put there an auto attack . Chose a spot with melee mobs and start botting. The only thing that will costs will be to fix your gear. Around 200k-300k coins for all gear.

Aubree - Dreamweaver

Cleric is a good botter too. Can be mana independent with demon/sage skills, plus can set IH for every 30 secs or less depending on gear.

Keisari - Raging Tide

*Warning: The following text ish written through demon spark-red glasses of an APS-barb fanatic.*

APS-barb ish another good botter. Just get Gorenox Vanitys or T2-claws with -int+heal proc and the proc+HP from sparking keeps HP up. APS-barb ish also quite good at soloing stuff(better than equal-geared sins in most cases) and barbs are wanted everywhere, after all.

Evryn - Morai

Clerics are a lot slower. Also, primal cyclone interferes with pickups, so skip that skill if you're building a pure drone. Seems the casting animation ends in midair making autoculti think the character is stuck...

As for arcane toons, you do need more prep time/skill with them to have them become mana independent, but after that you usually have a toon that will oneshot things without the need for ammo:
- Sage Psy needs Sage Aqua Impact (hellishly expensive) for extra chi. Once you have that, spark should selfreplenish if you're full arcane.
- Sage Cler needs Sage Spirits Gift (cheap), Demon Cler needs Demon Celestial Guardian (expensive).
- Wizard needs Primal Glacial Embrace for chi gain (timeconsuming, needs rebirth). Then spark selfreplenishes mana.
- Sage Myst needs Sage Natures Vengeance, the extra chi gain causes spark to selfreplenish there too.

Melee toons:
- Sins: BP. Enough said. Sins have the advantage that they can go full dex/offense as a drone, making them fast killers. Their G15/G16 weapons are expensive.
- BMs: Diamond Sutra early on in the attack routine can help (leave at lvl 1). Lateron simply APS claw/fist and use sparks to regain health. BMs are not great for crowded spots, as their damage output and speed are both average.
- Barbs: Either Sage Feral Regeneration or another +MP regen item and Sunder in the attack routine should do the trick (works as low as lvl 59). APS barbs can simply spark. Barbs in untamed form are faster then other melee characters, so they are great at getting the first hits in in crowded spots, outrinning those damned Sins.
- Archers: Spark is all you need. Throwing Awaken in the attack routine trades MP for HP this way, MP regen item recommended if you do this. Archers are difficult to selflevel past level 85ish however... a bit fragile. Weapons are somewhat cheap for archers (Sling is the best pure botting weap)


Also, I don't think botting for cash will be over with the next patch. Nerfed, sure, but not gone. I did a quick test on my main toons... 1/4th of the income is from coin pickups and random equipment drop sales. You'll need an expanded inventory to take advantage of that though.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Heavy venos in fox are also pot independent in auto culti.

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear

MyMate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It is right now, but after the expansion ALL DQ items will be worthless. So auto-cultivation will be pretty much useless for farming coins ^^

Except for the apoth drops, and the coin, and the shards, and the mats, and the armor, and the exp and spirit.

Useless.

bloodedone87

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Except for the apoth drops, and the coin, and the shards, and the mats, and the armor, and the exp and spirit.

Useless.

the mats drop rate is very low compared to DQ items, the apoth drops teh same, the shards even lower, the armor will fill up teh inventory fast. Botting for making coins it would be almost worthless. But for spirit and exp a good thing to do. And for some coins but not to much as they getting now.

MyMate - Dreamweaver

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Except for the apoth drops, and the coin, and the shards, and the mats, and the armor, and the exp and spirit.

Useless.

Yes, for the purpose of making any kind of decent coin, useless..

WannaBM - Archosaur

Evryn - Morai wrote: »

- Barbs: Either Sage Feral Regeneration or another +MP regen item and Sunder in the attack routine should do the trick (works as low as lvl 59). APS barbs can simply spark. Barbs in untamed form are faster then other melee characters, so they are great at getting the first hits in in crowded spots, outrinning those damned Sins.

I did some farming in the same area as a sin. I tried using tiger form for the runspeed to get the kills, but it didnt really work. It might be that i had higher lag or the sins attack is faster, or both, but usually i would run up to a mop, wait a fraction, start the attack, and then the sin was there to make the kill
Well i guess that was just my 300ms+ lag. Either way i found every solution i tried to have its disadvantages:
APS: slow walking between mobs
onslought for ranged 1 shots (skills make sparks for healing): mana intensive
tiger form(sunder for healing): slow killing + mana intensive
using onslought followed by some AOE skills was fun to watch though, espescially when the mobs start to bunch up after you cleared half of their respawn area.

I do believe sins and archers are the best botting toons.

That said, i dont really believe much in botting. Unless you want to grossly break the rules and have a whole army of bots running with thrid client bots who also do the NPCing for you, the benefits werent really worth the efford to me. Much more effective to have your allowed 2 clients be catshops when you are not playing.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

As a heavy veno, I find that I can compete with the sins and and fist BMs in auto-culti. I've got summer sprint in my attack macro, so it's basically always active so I'm first to the mob unless pausing to Master Li's/spark/heal pet, and leading off with Dark Taboo with a well-refined magic sword has the mob half-dead before the competition arrives. It's also great XP for whatever pet I'm currently wanting to level (currently getting a recently evolved Supreme Walker to 101) and pays for repairs, unlike Mice Bashing or wedding quest mobs.

If it's an archer I'm competing with, though, I'll move location. Unless they're not picking up drops.

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear

MyMate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes, for the purpose of making any kind of decent coin, useless..

As opposed to not having that toon up?

Presently farming a sin in hell until my R8 daggs wear out, I get 3-400k coin drops, about 900k-1M in DQ and about 4-500k in apoth and armor drops. With a approx 200k repair bill.

Even without DQ that's still 2-3x my costs for a toon that would do nothing else overnight, or while I'm at work.

And I keep the gem shards, and the Oracles and sell 'em. And put the exp and spirit into genies every so often.

NO apoth or charm use, and 1 time out of 7 or 8 I get hung up in some terrain and die for some reason.

I don't see a down side here.


\sorry it's not solo farming Lunar money
\\but it's money while I'm away from the computer, and it helps