TW Catapult business

neyami

Does hitting a catapult in TW after its puller has died do anything to the catapult?

Of course, attacking the catapult does no damage to it but does it have any other effects such as influencing catapult respawn time and such?

Reason for asking is because I've heard plenty of times to not attack a catapult while others say it doesn't do anything.

Father_gold - Sanctuary

i believe the running logic is to make it so the catapult takes longer to respawn in base, meaning it takes longer for the puller to get back on the cata. i could be wrong though.

ballenato

I do belive it doesnt matter since, u dont deal any damage to the catapult. It dies on his own in few seconds.

Noxioua - Lost City

ballenato wrote: »

I do belive it doesnt matter since, u dont deal any damage to the catapult. It dies on his own in few seconds.

^This. People are just paranoid. You cannot influence a catapult destruction/respawn time. However, it is also a waste of time and MP to attack the catapult as well. As, you know, it's immune to damage.

Oliiander - Lost City

Quick, hit it for chi.

Noxioua - Lost City

Oliiander - Lost City wrote: »

Quick, hit it for chi.

Sounds like you.

PS: Salvation is hitting me!

Zoldi - Morai

Oliiander - Lost City wrote: »

Quick, hit it for chi.

If all ennemies are dead and I don't have to run elsewhere, I do the same

Metalogue - Archosaur

No, it doesn't do anything. People usually hit it for chi if their self buffs don't build chi faster.

HideYoHubby - Archosaur

Metalogue - Archosaur wrote: »

No, it doesn't do anything. People usually hit it for chi if their self buffs don't build chi faster.

Some people simply think you can deal relevant damage to it and will yell one not to hit it. But thats more of an issue of ignorance than anything else.

Azura - Lost City

I only yell to people hitting catas when there is still enemies to clear inside or right outside the base. I yell to them because there is no point on hitting the cata, and because they need to help to push them out.

HideYoHubby - Archosaur

Azura - Lost City wrote: »

I only yell to people hitting catas when there is still enemies to clear inside or right outside the base. I yell to them because there is no point on hitting the cata, and because they need to help to push them out.

The point is chi. What are the DDs gonna do w/o catas to your base? Exactly, nothing.

opkossy

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

The point is chi. What are the DDs gonna do w/o catas to your base? Exactly, nothing.

Except if their DDs can still suppress you if they're ignored then that's leaving yourself wide open.

Why let people be a potential threat when you can kill them off and be safe? Or would you prefer to make yourselves a bunch of obvious targets beating up a cata for chi and getting nuked because of it?

Eoria - Harshlands

OPKossy wrote: »

Except if their DDs can still suppress you if they're ignored then that's leaving yourself wide open.

Why let people be a potential threat when you can kill them off and be safe? Or would you prefer to make yourselves a bunch of obvious targets beating up a cata for chi and getting nuked because of it?

On the otherhand, keeping the enemy DDs there with no catas while you're in the enemy's base with catas is a good idea.

But everything is situational.

freygin

I think catapult can be damaged after the puller died, either you destroy the catapult asap before another enemy barb pull it or wait for it to auto-destruct after a while for buying time before it respawns to enemy base, cmiiw though, been a long time since I do tw.

opkossy

freygin wrote: »

I think catapult can be damaged after the puller died, either you destroy the catapult asap before another enemy barb pull it or wait for it to auto-destruct after a while for buying time before it respawns to enemy base, cmiiw though, been a long time since I do tw.

Nope. Cata can't be damaged. All you can do is use it for chi when nobody's on it. Or as a target for various AoEs.

Evryn - Morai

I wonder though... The cata following the barb probably means that the thing is set to aggro on said barb somehow. If the lack of aggro causes it to "reset" and that triggers death, then any other bit of aggro could cause the respawn to be delayed.

Kinda like glitching Aohe's spirit in AEU - only a select few methods could be used to bypass damage immunity. In this case, a DOT on a seeker being QPQ'd onto the cata could cause such. I don't know if this is the case at all, but from past experience with NPC logics, I could see this as being the case. Would be interesting to test this some time.

HideYoHubby - Archosaur

OPKossy wrote: »

Except if their DDs can still suppress you if they're ignored then that's leaving yourself wide open.

Why let people be a potential threat when you can kill them off and be safe? Or would you prefer to make yourselves a bunch of obvious targets beating up a cata for chi and getting nuked because of it?

Jesus people, missing the point much? DDs w/o catas cant damage your base, period. Acknowledging catas can serve chi purpose =//= herp derp fisting them in middle enemy faction.

If TW is somewhat even and those are the kinds where strategy plays any role, your catas will be pushing too. If your own push is in enemy base or close to it you dont kill off enemy DD unless you are herp derping. Why? Their DDs w/o catas will not do anything to your base while sending them back to defend will make it harder for your push to damage theirs.

Man - Raging Tide

Reasons to attack catapults

1. Good target for AOE // skills

2. Getting chi

opkossy

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

Jesus people, missing the point much? DDs w/o catas cant damage your base, period. Acknowledging catas can serve chi purpose =//= herp derp fisting them in middle enemy faction.

If TW is somewhat even and those are the kinds where strategy plays any role, your catas will be pushing too. If your own push is in enemy base or close to it you dont kill off enemy DD unless you are herp derping. Why? Their DDs w/o catas will not do anything to your base while sending them back to defend will make it harder for your push to damage theirs.

Eoria's post already mentioned that and my assumption was based on their DDs being capable enough to massively hinder you if given the sort of free reign ignoring them would achieve. In a scenario where you're mid-push, though, then yes trying to keep the DDs in your base will be more helpful than killing them off... but you can still attack the DDs for that purpose most times. Not like there aren't other ways to get chi unless it's just a few stragglers left in base for you to deal with at that point.