Server Wide 3x EXP & Spirit

SeaCups - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

sparkie please don't do 3x or 2x drops again until the new expansion hits. With botting 2x drops destroys the economy and makes gold impossible to buy. Prices are just awful. Wait until the DQ Nerf in the next expansion before enabling it.

Not everyone cares about buying gold, some of us actually enjoy the x2 drops to farm for our toons and get what they need.
Just because gold buyers always QQ about the price, doesn't mean the rest of us can't enjoy the x2 drops for what we need.

bloodedone87

I cant believe that people still believe that all the botters ruined the economy.
Only the ones that could afford to multiclient with chars over lvl100 T3 or R9rr ruined the economy. A player that has only one char lvl100 cant make insane amount of money by botting. And now with the earning time his money gained per day has been reduced.
Not everyone that bott is happy with the gold being 4mil.
But the gold sellers in their stupidity thought that if a few could afford buying gold at 4 mil everyone can do it. We normal botters( i will call this way the ones that are botting with only 1 char) werent happy with gold being 4mil but there is nothing we can do. Rich ppl rule the world.
So we had no option but to buy the gold at 4mil.
The best thing was if the botting system was not put in the game and if they did make other ways to make money.
Not all ppl can solo TT or can multi client with 4 chars to open it or pay other 3 to come open it or waste teles to wc for them.
There are newbies that dont have rb chars to do FSP to make money out of it.
For a new player is frustating to not be able to make money as fast as an older player can do it.
Catching up with the old players is hard this days. It was much easier for them to get T3 or r9rr back in the days when the prices werent so ****ed up.
i wont cry for the introduction or 2x. But i dont think it will hurt economy this days since we got earning time that has reduced the ppl that were botting.
if they nerf DQ then they should better remove auto cultivation system completely. With DQ nerfed there will be no reason to auto grind. Cause lets be onest: no one auto culti to gain exp.

Im happy with 3x exp. I have some alts that I want lvl up for jolly quests.

Aubree - Dreamweaver

bloodedone87 wrote: »

I cant believe that people still believe that all the botters ruined the economy.
Only the ones that could afford to multiclient with chars over lvl100 T3 or R9rr ruined the economy. A player that has only one char lvl100 cant make insane amount of money by botting. And now with the earning time his money gained per day has been reduced.
Not everyone that bott is happy with the gold being 4mil.
But the gold sellers in their stupidity thought that if a few could afford buying gold at 4 mil everyone can do it. We normal botters( i will call this way the ones that are botting with only 1 char) werent happy with gold being 4mil but there is nothing we can do. Rich ppl rule the world.
So we had no option but to buy the gold at 4mil.
The best thing was if the botting system was not put in the game and if they did make other ways to make money.
Not all ppl can solo TT or can multi client with 4 chars to open it or pay other 3 to come open it or waste teles to wc for them.
There are newbies that dont have rb chars to do FSP to make money out of it.
For a new player is frustating to not be able to make money as fast as an older player can do it.
Catching up with the old players is hard this days. It was much easier for them to get T3 or r9rr back in the days when the prices werent so ****ed up.
i wont cry for the introduction or 2x. But i dont think it will hurt economy this days since we got earning time that has reduced the ppl that were botting.
if they nerf DQ then they should better remove auto cultivation system completely. With DQ nerfed there will be no reason to auto grind. Cause lets be onest: no one auto culti to gain exp.

Im happy with 3x exp. I have some alts that I want lvl up for jolly quests.

I auto culti for exp. I was hoping when all dq was nerfd they would remove the earning time. Or at least have the earnig time affect drops but NOT exp. It's stupid we have the exp nerf when USA has no fatigue system laws. Because let's face it, after dq nerf botting won't cover most people costs in terms of pots and repairs. As a cleric I realize I bot with almost no costs. I use no pots at all, just have repair costs.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

SeaCups - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Not everyone cares about buying gold, some of us actually enjoy the x2 drops to farm for our toons and get what they need.
Just because gold buyers always QQ about the price, doesn't mean the rest of us can't enjoy the x2 drops for what we need.

It's not just buying gold, it's buying anything. A garnet gem that was 30m last year is now 120m. Platinum charms have gone from 3m to 10m. If very difficult for new players to cope with prices that high.

We should just wait until the expansion hits. 2x will be much less damaging to new players then.

Aubree - Dreamweaver

Both charms and garnets are gold based items. Packs cost more so gems cost more, p charms are gold based directly.

Anything directly farm-able in game is still affordable.

mightymoose

Game inflation exists in many games with and without 2x events.

A 1-week 2x event averaged over 10 weeks increases the effective drop rate by 10%. So having a 1-week 2x event every 10 weeks increases the effective drop rate by 10%. A 2x event averaged over a year increases the effective drop rate by 2%. So a 1-week 2x event every year increases the effective drop rate by 2%.

I think the effects of 2x events are greatly exaggerated.

Highestelf - Heavens Tear

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

While everyone cries about inflation of the gold price and thus everything that comes out of the boutique, these mats have not increased in price. On the contrary. Since the last bunch of 2x events, there still are multiple shops around who litterally have dozens of each 3-x gold mat that they cant seem to sell because the market is flooded.


You aint tellking me you started farming puppet + mask only now do you ? (that is something i espescially did during 2x though)

I guess it is just my imagination, that tokens selling for 45k+ is normal.
Correct me if I'm wrong, those come from packs, which come from boutique! Tokens are the KEY in game currency for many basic items in demand!
I guess it is just my imagination, that Stone of the Savant (for example) selling for 145k+ is normal.
Correct me if I'm wrong, those come from packs, which come from boutique!

"While everyone cries about inflation of the gold price and thus everything that comes out of the boutique, these mats have not increased in price." Spoken like a true CASH player! Unlike some people, I could never justify piling up debt on a credit card, for the sake of some silly vain idea I will impress others.
If YOU can not recognize (or acknowledge) how bad the PWI economy has gotten, you simply don't CARE where your money goes. I have been playing almost six years, and I can ASSURE YOU, this is not the same game as it once was. The economy being the PRIMARY failing, the drastic population reduction being second. I would even go so far as to suggest that the population problem stems from the economy going to ****!!

Kaugummii - Morai

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's not just buying gold, it's buying anything. A garnet gem that was 30m last year is now 120m. Platinum charms have gone from 3m to 10m. If very difficult for new players to cope with prices that high.

We should just wait until the expansion hits. 2x will be much less damaging to new players then.

You posted something about he DQ earlier in this topic what do you mean with it?

I do can confirm that with Plat charms being 10 million it does is pretty hard to farm anything by myself, right now i have my toon up to 100 and a bit decent but i still can't do anything because i can't make enough money to be able to spend 10 mil every now and then because of the charm **** of events like TW and NW since they go through charms like its nothing.. yet the price doesn't go lower..

With the last handouts of plat charms on codes.. the price of plat charms dropped from 14 mil to 10 of what ik on morai..

HideYoHubby - Archosaur

mightymoose wrote: »

Game inflation exists in many games with and without 2x events.

A 1-week 2x event averaged over 10 weeks increases the effective drop rate by 10%. So having a 1-week 2x event every 10 weeks increases the effective drop rate by 10%. A 2x event averaged over a year increases the effective drop rate by 2%. So a 1-week 2x event every year increases the effective drop rate by 2%.

I think the effects of 2x events are greatly exaggerated.

The problem is everybody and their moms set up bots during 2x drops. Lets use me as an example when it comes to TT. Outside of 2x I dont even step inside TT outside of BH, last 2x, which lasted week, I farmed closer to 1b in gold mats & p.stone mats. Premise of not accounting massive increase in botting activity is simply faulty.

deathbytuna

turn off bot mode when x2-3 events come..easy..right?

mightymoose

HideYoHubby - Archosaur wrote: »

The problem is everybody and their moms set up bots during 2x drops. Lets use me as an example when it comes to TT. Outside of 2x I dont even step inside TT outside of BH, last 2x, which lasted week, I farmed closer to 1b in gold mats & p.stone mats. Premise of not accounting massive increase in botting activity is simply faulty.

There was no "premise". I was simply talking about the effective drop rate increase averaged over time. Yes there will also be increased farming activity, but this is good. Basically pro botters and farmers will bot/farm irrespective of a 2x event. They tend to already operate at max capacity. The real benefit is to the non-farmers and average Joes who don't and can now make a little extra cash.

Basically pro/heavy bottesr/farmers do not benefit much over time from 2x events because the effective rate increase over time is not that much. The non-famers and average Joes are the ones who benefit most from this.

Pro farmers hate 2x drop events the most because average Joes will farm their own mats and not buy from them and even compete with them if they have surplus. So they talk "economy" to convince everyone it's bad. It IS bad for them (the farmers), but good for the average Joe. Like I said inflation exists in many games with or without 2x events.

xuelian

2X drops is good enough for me 0.0 b:chuckle

Noxioua - Lost City

deathbytuna wrote: »

turn off bot mode when x2-3 events come..easy..right?

I'm not sure if it works like that buddy. Besides, at the end of the day the final call for all of this comes from Perfect World Co. LTY b:sad

RankNine - Momaganon

thank you! any estimation on the 5 hypers? (not begging, just wondering)

Blackleaf - Sanctuary

Anyone know where I can get the new patch?

sparkiesoft

RankNine - Momaganon wrote: »

thank you! any estimation on the 5 hypers? (not begging, just wondering)

It'll be 15 (5 for each goal we reached and we reached them all). I'm making the codes right now!