All BH Changes

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

All BH changes list below:

BH 1:

1. BH LG (Hauntery Queen) is now BH TT3-1 (Illusion Nemen: null)
2. BH EU (Ghost Wing) remains the same
3. BH Delta (wave 2) remains the same
4. BH SoT (Lord of Captivation) is now BH AEU (Aurogon, the Dragon Emperor)
5. BH Aba (Leaf Rain Dryad) is now BH Warsong/Metal (Snakefist Guardian)

BH 2:

1. BH2 TT2-3 (Wurlord: Null) remains the same
2. BH2 Aba (Leaf Rain Dryad) remains the same
3. BH2 Delta (wave 3) remains the same
4. BH2 EU (Ghost Wing) is now BH2 SoT (Lord of Captivation)
5. BH2 Delta (wave 2) remains the same

Rewards remain the same for all BH's.

We should make another thread with unlisted changes.

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

All BH changes list below:

BH 1:

• BH LG (Hauntery Queen) is now BH TT3-1 (Illusion Nemen: null)
• BH EU (Ghost Wing) remains the same
• BH Delta (wave 2) remains the same
• BH SoT (Lord of Captivation) is now BH AEU (Aurogon, the Dragon Emperor)
• BH Aba (Leaf Rain Dryad) is now BH Warsong/Metal (Snakefist Guardian)

BH 2:

• BH2 TT2-3 (Wurlord: Null) remains the same
• BH2 Aba (Leaf Rain Dryad) remains the same
• BH2 Delta (wave 3) remains the same
• BH2 EU (Ghost Wing) is now BH2 SoT (Lord of Captivation)
• BH2 Delta (wave 2) remains the same

We should make another thread with unlisted changes.

Glad to see Snakefist is back. Sad to see SoT, Aba, and Lunar are gone from BHI

EU and AEU *blech*

Jaabg - Sanctuary

AEU i can still deal with. They should have taken out EU and retained SOT, aba or lunar in its place.

Still sad to see lunar go, it used to be the only fun one bh i used to do.

Marengo - Lost City

SoT and Aba, my favourite b:cry

CapnK - Sanctuary

Don't like these changes. Took out the two fastest BHs and put in two super slow ones.

Verenor - Morai

why.....WHHHHYYYYYYY didn't you guys take out EU instead of Lunar/aba/sotb:cry. Now we got AEU + EU, both instances where people go fully mental and never learn what to do..EU is most horrid place ever since I doubt the 3-fail loop has been fixed by now.

Illyn - Raging Tide

Well. I think I'll do 60% of BHs then.

Removing lunar was bad for me.

AEU should be the replacement for BH EU.

I'd have prefered:

BH Lunar
BH AEU
BH SoT or Aba (maybe random between both)
BH Delta
BH Snake (or random WS boss as I already suggested in another thread)

Desdi - Sanctuary

Omg noooo not SoT and Aba

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

Don't like these changes. Took out the two fastest BHs and put in two super slow ones.

How else do you push the lazy populace to spend money?

Now you'll spend on the auto-daily completion Active Points and PWI will make more money from CS'ers.

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver

My lunar scamming days are over b:cry

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

How else do you push the lazy populace to spend money?

Now you'll spend on the auto-daily completion Active Points and PWI will make more money from CS'ers.

Wow, you know that makes perfect sense.

Bad form PWI, bad form. Think I would rather just not do the BH that day

Zoldi - Morai

Illyn - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well. I think I'll do 60% of BHs then.

Removing lunar was bad for me.

AEU should be the replacement for BH EU.

I'd have prefered:

BH Lunar
BH AEU
BH SoT or Aba (maybe random between both)
BH Delta
BH Snake (or random WS boss as I already suggested in another thread)

^This

BH EU is the worse BH ever, and now BH AEU gonna be the second worse ever...
SOT and Aba were perfect.
I'm ok to see WS back (and as you said a random boss would have been perfect) but i don't like those changes at all...

hoover69

wow so now bh is out of my daily list cause i only ever did abba and sot oh well

Zoldi - Morai

Actually they should have let SoT and Aba as bh I and EU/AEU could have been BH II. It would have been better... (even if EU is not designed to be a bh at all because of different obvious reasons)

Marengo - Lost City

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

I'm ok to see WS back

What's not ok about it is that you need to wait 15 min. Aba/sot took 5-10 min for the whole run. But I prefer it to eu/aeu by all means.

opkossy

You actually stand around waiting for those 15 minutes instead of doing something productive like other dailies? That makes about as much sense as people who stand by the crazy stone NPC to wait out the timer on it. o_O




Happy to see Warsong back but really annoyed at them pushing Aba/Seat to be BH2s instead of letting them stay BH1s. AEU should have replaced BH EU in my opinion. >.>

Joe - Morai

Doesn't matter...anyone got Info on maybe changed BH rewards yet? EXP, Pills and stuff?

Maybe AEU is worth it.

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Doesn't matter...anyone got Info on maybe changed BH rewards yet? EXP, Pills and stuff?

Maybe AEU is worth it.

No change on reward.

Medaka - Morai

I enjoyed having Aba and SoT as BH1 since I would normally clear them to the bosses then fill the squad, after which I would clear the weeklies to the bosses then fill the squad again :<. At least Aba weekly was really fast that way, but this change completely killed my motivation.

DeffyNature - Archosaur

Not warsong again .-. . Managed to stay away from it for more than a year, and now this b:cry . BH TT isn't a joy either, I so enjoyed those fast Aba and SoT runs .

RankNine - Momaganon

is the random BH confirmed? i cant check as i have all 5 BHs on all chars >.<

Sudqi - Sanctuary

i wont belive it until read post form GM/Officer or see it from game XD b:surrender
if is it true then this not good at all >.>

Cotillion - Dreamweaver

Wow, guess I won't be doing many bh's anymore.

I don't always have alot of time, so SoT, Aba and Lunar were great for quick bh's/rewards. (Yes, Lunar - I was one of those people who would gladly pay the 500k@boss buyers and leave after Vile version when I didnt have time to run it all and could get the bh done quick).

WannaBM - Archosaur

With everyone complaining about inflation, these are good change.

Remove the fastest BHs, bring back slow ones. This will reduce the amount of people doing BHs.

Remove BH lunar where the entrance fee was payed by the quests. Now people will be sinking coins into entrance fee to farm EODs.

This will reduce coin generation with billions per week.

I do agree though, lunar was the only fun BH.

Medaka - Morai

RankNine - Momaganon wrote: »

is the random BH confirmed? i cant check as i have all 5 BHs on all chars >.<

Yeah, it is.

WannaBM - Archosaur

Medaka - Morai wrote: »

Yeah, it is.

Me and some friends got together and did BH today. We all got the same (tt3-1)

Medaka - Morai

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

Me and some friends got together and did BH today. We all got the same (tt3-1)

A friend confirmed it for me as he's gotten a different BH than part of his faction, and the other part got a different BH than both, so yeah.

Edit: I actually want to add something here... this supposed "random" is really weird. Basically, all of the people I've asked told me they had BH EU, and so did all of my alts. My friend, which also had BH EU, told me that a part of his faction (large amount at that) got BH 3-1, the other part got BH AEU. It might be just me, but this supposed random seems a bit odd and based on something? If it wasn't, wouldn't there be a lot of people just running around with different BH's, and actual sightings of 5 BH's instead of only 3? Maybe I'm simply not informed on this, as not all people logged / picked and whatnot yet, but I doubt we would be unsure of the random factor on the forums if something wasn't up.

Marengo - Lost City

OPKossy wrote: »

You actually stand around waiting for those 15 minutes instead of doing something productive like other dailies? That makes about as much sense as people who stand by the crazy stone NPC to wait out the timer on it. o_O

I dont like to open, then go out, then return in 15 minutes (need not to forget I have BH waiting xD ), it's much easier just to enter, do it, get out and forget about it, than spending tp runes or teleporting there and back. Just the matter of convenience, not a big deal, but can be annoying.

Cotillion - Dreamweaver

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

With everyone complaining about inflation, these are good change.

Remove the fastest BHs, bring back slow ones. This will reduce the amount of people doing BHs.

Reducing the amount of people using content in an MMO is not a good thing, regardless of economy. Making content less appealing lowers the amount of people logging in daily to do this content...which is good how? It's not.
If the desired effect was reduce the coin-flow from BH, they chose a horrible way to do it.
They could instead change the rewards. How about removing the 2ecstasy cards and 1excite card and subbing them with something else thats bound?
Replace the excite card with an A-card pack and the ecstasy cards with a B-card pack, for example. Substitute in rewards that are still appealing, but that also stop the generating of so much coin from it.
Somehow I doubt, however, that their desired intention had anything to do with the coin generated by bh's.

burnabybuildings

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide wrote: »

Glad to see Snakefist is back. Sad to see SoT, Aba, and Lunar are gone from BHI

EU and AEU *blech*

WOW thanks for this update! Glad to see the changes. aba and SoT are so appropriately BH2s now. SoT was almost a joke how easy it got. Aba, well getting to the boss was a pain, but the boss itself -- killing it was a joke. I kinda miss people freaking out cuz noob would keep attacking when they shouldn't b:laugh

Im sad to see that BH Nirvana was not added. I wonder when they will restore Nirvana to a place of importance again.

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »

All BH changes list below:

BH 1:

1. BH LG (Hauntery Queen) is now BH TT3-1 (Illusion Nemen: null)
2. BH EU (Ghost Wing) remains the same
3. BH Delta (wave 2) remains the same
4. BH SoT (Lord of Captivation) is now BH AEU (Aurogon, the Dragon Emperor)
5. BH Aba (Leaf Rain Dryad) is now BH Warsong/Metal (Snakefist Guardian)

BH 2:

1. BH2 TT2-3 (Wurlord: Null) remains the same
2. BH2 Aba (Leaf Rain Dryad) remains the same
3. BH2 Delta (wave 3) remains the same
4. BH2 EU (Ghost Wing) is now BH2 SoT (Lord of Captivation)
5. BH2 Delta (wave 2) remains the same

Rewards remain the same for all BH's.

We should make another thread with unlisted changes.

I'll miss Lunar, Abba, and SoT.

EU and AEU I hate. Too time consuming, and too much confusion.
The one dungeon that I hate the most, and they turn that into a BH. Would have been wiser to use Nirvana as a bh since NO ONE runs it all, ever anymore.

EU is also an extremely poor choice as a bh due to its daily limit. Some people have had issues where something happened, and they couldn't get back in that day. Easiest example is dc'ing, however lead is afk. Poor move to keep EU as a bh.

It's good to see Snake back. This will give people a chance to practice on their pavilions without real penalty to the squad.

TT is a meh. I could take it or leave it.

Snake is the only one that should have been changed...allowing him to come back to bh, and removing EU from existence.


Sidenote: I disagree about removing excitement cards and ecstacy cards for A and B backs. People still use BH to make income, and people who have full A cards, and even moreso the ones that have full S cards will have even less incentive to run their bh's, when their incentive to do so is gone.