Nation Wars And people playing dozens of toons in them

gamesend

Every nation wars people are playing, in some cases I wa sinformed today by someone, 17 different characters in nation Wars, for Supply tokens.

This eats into actual players over all profits, and makes it harder to obtain items due to these people scamming tokens for nothing....


I understand that PWI doesn't want to Kick people from Nation Wars, How about Simply ALL Nation Wars items Untradeable, And Also LOCK IP's. Those in Nation Wars from the same IP must be in the same squad in the same map..... And can't break squad otherwise kicked from instance and not allowed back in Like a Normal instance?


Newer players already don't want to attempt to compete in nation Wars because they get slaughtered, then you have all these cheats using mass accounts to eat into everyones rewards...


PLEASE PWI Stop this. Either Lock IP's to 1 team, Or make ALL Nation Wars obtained items untradeable. That will also revive Nirvana as well

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Slewdem - Dreamweaver

gamesend wrote: »

Every nation wars people are playing, in some cases I wa sinformed today by someone, 17 different characters in nation Wars, for Supply tokens.

This eats into actual players over all profits, and makes it harder to obtain items due to these people scamming tokens for nothing....


I understand that PWI doesn't want to Kick people from Nation Wars, How about Simply ALL Nation Wars items Untradeable, And Also LOCK IP's. Those in Nation Wars from the same IP must be in the same squad in the same map..... And can't break squad otherwise kicked from instance and not allowed back in Like a Normal instance?


Newer players already don't want to attempt to compete in nation Wars because they get slaughtered, then you have all these cheats using mass accounts to eat into everyones rewards...


PLEASE PWI Stop this. Either Lock IP's to 1 team, Or make ALL Nation Wars obtained items untradeable. That will also revive Nirvana as well

b:surrenderb:surrenderb:surrender

It also takes away the fun from it as well.. Go into a battle you see some toons just just hitting the NPC... I feel the set who over kills having alot of alts in NW are end game players..

Salari - Raging Tide

Slewdem - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It also takes away the fun from it as well.. Go into a battle you see some toons just just hitting the NPC... I feel the set who over kills having alot of alts in NW are end game players..

they probably do that to satisfy the 5 min battle time required to get tokens.

opkossy

Playing that many at once is already breaking the multiclient rule as is.

You should screenshot and report them if they tell you like that. >.>

ubuntu1111

Totally agree there should be something done about this and all the other problems. But nothing will ever come of it. So i just play when im really bored and no longer put gold into the game.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

OPKossy wrote: »

Playing that many at once is already breaking the multiclient rule as is.

You should screenshot and report them if they tell you like that. >.>

The staff do **** all when you report that kind of thing, lately beside giving away free stuff the staff do nothing.

Highestelf - Heavens Tear

"IF" the expense spent (charms/pots) to participate was out weighed by pleasure incurred by involvement, participation could be justified. Unfortunately, that is not the case, NOT being OP means you're lucky if the rewards in the end will cover the expenses incurred. I can see participation by myself and many others dwindling rapidly as we refuse to show up and be scammed anymore.

Nation Wars has been reduced to little more than a joke, and I'm having a hard time justifying my participation. It is annoying being in a territory with 4 or 5 people that do not move from spawn point and others simply popping in and out, whilst you single handedly deliver the flag TWICE only to rank 12th. If your not getting screwed by THESE losers, your consistently turned into fertilizer, by entire squads of renowned OP's.

Just like the FF glitch years ago, that was used to get the first batch of players beyond 100, you have a group that has learned how to game the NW system.

It's abundantly clear, the only ones that are really "benefiting" from NW are the OP's, which are behind the massive NW scamming. It's not enough for them to benefit by outweighing the opponents one on one or squad to squad, they manipulate the overall outcome by determining a "Throw away" nation (or two) and choose that one (those) for their inactive alts whilst they steamroll their victor nation of choice.

I'm just wondering, do they kill their own alts? Does this have a positive impact on their inactive alts reward?

WannaBM - Archosaur

Highestelf - Heavens Tear wrote: »

"IF" the expense spent (charms/pots) to participate was out weighed by pleasure incurred by involvement, participation could be justified. Unfortunately, that is not the case, NOT being OP means you're lucky if the rewards in the end will cover the expenses incurred. I can see participation by myself and many others dwindling rapidly as we refuse to show up and be scammed anymore.

It's abundantly clear, the only ones that are really "benefiting" from NW are the OP's, which are behind the massive NW scamming.

That could be true if everyone was charmed. Usually though, the non-OP are uncharmed and thus have very little expenses. The OP are charmed because they dont do NW for profit but for fun. Great fun really, 1 shotting people left and right while they can hurt you for 10% of your HPs and your charm easilly takes care of that all automatically. Thats worth burning trough 2 charms and a bunch of apoth spending 20m to get 250 tokens covering only half the cost.

OP people dont do NW for profit. They may farm TT for 10m per hour/20m during 2x. They may be succesfull merchants. They may be big cashshoppers. Or a combination of those 3. NW and TW are the fun things, not the profit things.

I think its the less wealthy who multiclient.

It doesnt really matter though who does it. Its a bad thing that it happens. No need to try and focus your anger at a particular group of people.

Salari - Raging Tide

Sad thing a screen shot is not going to tell you if someone has more than 2 toons in nw much less anywhere else. The only thing that can prove that is server logs

Asterelle - Sanctuary

You can't blame water for flowing downstream. People are always going to do the strategy that gives them the greatest reward for the least effort. If the devs don't want people to multiclient in NW they need to rework the token formula to discourage people from multiclienting in NW. Clearly there is more that can be done in making sure an alt is actively participating in battle.

heerohex#3018

Im a little concerned over the fact that people run some 17 clients and as has been stated that would would hit the T&C.

This for now being something that has Flagged up several times makes me think towards hitting the log files. For now im not going to enter this into them but I do consider this a problem. I have a few my self and I never LOG more than 2 toons. Having more than 2 toons puts unnecessary stress on The server yet alone 17... wow!

Please consider using the ticket system for anyone where this is a problem.

Thanks,