The ultimate question: Weapon proc

alphasinbm
alphasinbm Posts: 21 Arc User
edited July 2014 in Archer
I haven't seen a thread like this so thought I would make one.

Please vote and state why.

I'm torn between purify proc and gof simply because I feel every class can either take damage or is difficult to hold down except an archer unless their genie is set up well. On the other hand we are damage dealers with plenty of AOE skills so GOF would be nice.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Revenge/Blood Vengeance.

    I don't agree with giving archers zerk and purify proc would completely **** with the class's anti-stun skills.
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  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1682411

    It's literally not even on the 2nd page, still at the bottom of this page b:nosebleed
  • Djcale - Raging Tide
    Djcale - Raging Tide Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1682411

    It's literally not even on the 2nd page, still at the bottom of this page b:nosebleed

    clearly a different/not the same question?...

    How would purify mess with their anti stun skills exactly?
    All it would do is override the speed buff and the immune to movement debuff..... which is what it does on every class?
    It's okay to give seekers, barbs, sins and bms zerk? Why not archers?
  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    clearly a different/not the same question?...

    How would purify mess with their anti stun skills exactly?
    All it would do is override the speed buff and the immune to movement debuff..... which is what it does on every class?
    It's okay to give seekers, barbs, sins and bms zerk? Why not archers?

    Not all casters have skills that grant them Movement Immunity (can't think of any caster that does other than veno actually) so the proc doesn't ruin it for them. Archers have 8sec/15sec Movement immunity buffs, so the proc would ruin it by shortening that time down to 6 seconds only. Ofcourse it has it's uses but still it can ruin it for a very situational moment.
    Zerk is imo better suited: archers are DD classes, so why not add some extra firepower to that glass cannon.
  • Djcale - Raging Tide
    Djcale - Raging Tide Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Not all casters have skills that grant them Movement Immunity (can't think of any caster that does other than veno actually) so the proc doesn't ruin it for them. Archers have 8sec/15sec Movement immunity buffs, so the proc would ruin it by shortening that time down to 6 seconds only. Ofcourse it has it's uses but still it can ruin it for a very situational moment.
    Zerk is imo better suited: archers are DD classes, so why not add some extra firepower to that glass cannon.

    Usually if you have an anti stun on like that you'd be kiting anyway since archers cant tank damage for shizzle!
    I don't see what is WRONG with it proccing though, does it make you move slower than wings of grace? Ofc it'll ruin it for alacrity but supposing you activate it and you're running away and being hit by lots of people and it procs, wouldnt you already have been running for a few seconds anyway? Alacrity is only 8 seconds afterall, by then you're probably out of danger, and if not probably more seconds of free anti stun.

    Yes it could be bad. But I'm willing to bet if someone with a bit of maths handy came along and worked it out it would probably work in an archers favor to have purify spell over say, purge or anything else other than GOF perhaps... since we all know how broken and OP metal zerk is :)
  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Not all casters have skills that grant them Movement Immunity (can't think of any caster that does other than veno actually).

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  • Zynes - Dreamweaver
    Zynes - Dreamweaver Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So i read both, Threads.. I play an archer and what i noticed is that no one mentioned how the game is today.. an archer purge is useless now, UNLESS your 1v1 and he doesnt have the apoth to rebuff himself. If i had to choose i would go with GoF only for the fact that it procs more often then any proc ive seen but my main argument is that ONCE an archer purges and its really rare.. someone can just pop there apoth and guess what FULL buffs pruge useless, and on a second note all the classes with GoF are wearing HA (most likely with str builds) ive been one hit way to many times with GoF and I've never been one shot with Purge and im R9rr +11 wep and +8 gear... if that matters
  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So i read both, Threads.. I play an archer and what i noticed is that no one mentioned how the game is today.. an archer purge is useless now, UNLESS your 1v1 and he doesnt have the apoth to rebuff himself. If i had to choose i would go with GoF only for the fact that it procs more often then any proc ive seen but my main argument is that ONCE an archer purges and its really rare.. someone can just pop there apoth and guess what FULL buffs pruge useless, and on a second note all the classes with GoF are wearing HA (most likely with str builds) ive been one hit way to many times with GoF and I've never been one shot with Purge and im R9rr +11 wep and +8 gear... if that matters


    not to forget the fact that there are so many buffs that are not purgable including tidal protection (GG) and passives.
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  • Testxvl - Sanctuary
    Testxvl - Sanctuary Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Huh....?
    Antistun can not be overbuffed, means if the archer already used any antistun and the purify spell will proc afterwards, he will keep the old antistun till it runs out... However, the speed will be overbuffed of course.. Neither will antistun from purify spell be rebuffed if it proc again while its on or any antistun skill is casted.

    Archers already pretty good at kiting and good on antistuns imo, I believe they would benefit more from gof than purify spell.
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  • overcomem
    overcomem Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    it's interesting poll but there're nothing to be changed b:chuckle