Gears and there limits.

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver

My psy atm has r9rr on chest/wrist/legs. The rest is g16 wep. Ws belt/neck. Is it worth it at this point to go full on r9rr and disregard my refines on the rest of my g16? Wep is +11. Boots +10.
I know a lot of people will jump and say r9rr only.
What I'm asking from ones who are in my position or was.. to maybe tell me what you did and or your opinion on them.
Is it worth ditching my g16 for the rest of r9rr for the set bonus?
Or go as I am? It's more then sufficient in pve. Handles well in pvp.
I'm trying to set new goals because there is simply not a lot to do at end game.
Thank you for the positive constructive feedback.

opkossy

The gear itself is good, but it only shines with refines on it. This is espcially true for psychics with soulforce as their entire gimmick. Meaning you're losing more than just survivability from swapping to unrefined gear, even if it gets you a set bonus.

Until you can afford to both get the gear and refine it to similar levels compared to what you have now, it's just not going to be worth it to replace your G16 entirely. Better to keep wearing the G16 until you finish refining or save up/merch until you can get the gear done all at once.



Edit: That said, Go for it on weapon. Purify spell is incredibly useful and at least having the luxury to switch to a weapon with purify when you're on the defensive is a massive bonus.

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver

Dont post on here pls. you are highly unwelcome and your failure to see that is outstanding.

Can someone who is actually in or been in my situation post pls?

OPKossy wrote: »

The gear itself is good, but it only shines with refines on it. This is espcially true for psychics with soulforce as their entire gimmick. Meaning you're losing more than just survivability from swapping to unrefined gear, even if it gets you a set bonus.

Until you can afford to both get the gear and refine it to similar levels compared to what you have now, it's just not going to be worth it to replace your G16 entirely. Better to keep wearing the G16 until you finish refining or save up/merch until you can get the gear done all at once.



Edit: That said, Go for it on weapon. Purify spell is incredibly useful and at least having the luxury to switch to a weapon with purify when you're on the defensive is a massive bonus.

Atleast read it all first.
1: i didnt say my r9rr is unrefined. i said i only got it in chest/legs/wrist atm. they are currently +8
2: i can afford it but is it worth it im asking. dont dodge the question in the post pls.


EDIT: nvm its moved anyway. might as well close this cus youl just delete it anyway. -.-

opkossy

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Dont post on here pls. you are highly unwelcome and your failure to see that is outstanding.

Can someone who is actually in or been in my situation post pls?

... Really? You want to ignore advice from a knowledgeable person just because you don't like the person giving it? Are you serious?

Whatever. If you can't be mature enough to put your petty issues aside for even a moment then you're clearly not worth giving any time or assistance to.

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver

You just post saying im not mature enough to take advice and then you deleted it. pls stop hijacking my threads.
Read rule 7 also
7. No trolling, or flaming.
Any form of personal insult will not be tolerated. General rule of thumb: if you think that what you are about to post is insulting, don't post it. Doesn't matter if you think you're being cute or clever; if it can be conveyed as trolling, it *will* be considered trolling, and the mod team and the admins retain the right to delete, warn, issue infractions, or even ban violators.

Back to the thread topic and only the thread topic pls.

opkossy

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Atleast read it all first.
1: i didnt say my r9rr is unrefined. i said i only got it in chest/legs/wrist atm. they are currently +8
2: i can afford it but is it worth it im asking. dont dodge the question in the post pls.


EDIT: nvm its moved anyway. might as well close this cus youl just delete it anyway. -.-

I never said your R9 third cast you currently have was unrefined either. I was talking purely about getting the rest of it for the set in comparison to keeping your current G16 weapon/boots, as your question was, "Is it worth ditching my g16 for the rest of r9rr for the set bonus? Or go as I am?"

To which I pointed out the cons of ditching your G16 (which you stated to be at +10 for boots and +11 for weapon) in favor of getting the set bonus. I then added in an edit that the weapon itself would be worthwhile because of the purify spell proc it has. I neglected to mention that the weapon is not a part of the set bonus, but it would be used more for the extra defense anyways until it was properly refined. Since.. you know... unless you choose to burn money on chienkungs and praying for a good roll you won't have your R9 third cast pre-refined when you make it.


And yes, it's moved to the appropriate section. Psychics have a bit more to consider than most other classes in this because of the soulforce mechanic. Considering you took the time to mention the character you're considering this on was your Psychic, it was only fair to put it somewhere that other Psychics with experience can comment and help you. That's not the same as closing or deleting the thread. It would be nice if you'd get over your little grudge against me for even long enough to see obvious things.


Edit:

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You just post saying im not mature enough to take advice and then you deleted it. pls stop hijacking my threads.
Read rule 7 also
7. No trolling, or flaming.
Any form of personal insult will not be tolerated. General rule of thumb: if you think that what you are about to post is insulting, don't post it. Doesn't matter if you think you're being cute or clever; if it can be conveyed as trolling, it *will* be considered trolling, and the mod team and the admins retain the right to delete, warn, issue infractions, or even ban violators.

Back to the thread topic and only the thread topic pls.

You know... at first when I saw your edit I was assuming that just MAYBE you were trying to improve with your issues and that this post was worth making. Now, you've gone and proven me wrong. I didn't hijack anything. I gave you perfectly valid advice and you chose to turn it into a grudge match. You're the only one trying to troll or flame here. Maybe you should read the rules you seem to like throwing at me so much when you're the one not following them.


Anyways, I'm done trying to help you since it's obvious you're a waste of time to assist. My apologies for thinking you could handle behaving like an adult in this situation.

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver

OPKossy wrote: »

I never said your R9 third cast you currently have was unrefined either. I was talking purely about getting the rest of it for the set in comparison to keeping your current G16 weapon/boots, as your question was, "Is it worth ditching my g16 for the rest of r9rr for the set bonus? Or go as I am?"

To which I pointed out the cons of ditching your G16 (which you stated to be at +10 for boots and +11 for weapon) in favor of getting the set bonus. I then added in an edit that the weapon itself would be worthwhile because of the purify spell proc it has. I neglected to mention that the weapon is not a part of the set bonus, but it would be used more for the extra defense anyways until it was properly refined. Since.. you know... unless you choose to burn money on chienkungs and praying for a good roll you won't have your R9 third cast pre-refined when you make it.


And yes, it's moved to the appropriate section. Psychics have a bit more to consider than most other classes in this because of the soulforce mechanic. Considering you took the time to mention the character you're considering this on was your Psychic, it was only fair to put it somewhere that other Psychics with experience can comment and help you. That's not the same as closing or deleting the thread. It would be nice if you'd get over your little grudge against me for even long enough to see obvious things.

your opinion is unwanted nor appreciated. Stop following to every single post or thread i make.
since you are fully aware of the fact your not wanted on my threads.
Then you are purposely trying to flame and troll.
Making jabs in your posts also is trolling and flaming.
Let others with real appreciated opinions post pls.

Zoldi - Morai

I'm gonna give you the same advice Kossy already gave.
I hope (for you) that you will then listen to them because I think it was smart advice.

opkossy

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver wrote: »

your opinion is unwanted nor appreciated. Stop following to every single post or thread i make.
since you are fully aware of the fact your not wanted on my threads.
Then you are purposely trying to flame and troll.
Making jabs in your posts also is trolling and flaming.
Let others with real appreciated opinions post pls.

I'm not following you. I could care less about you and I'm not making any jabs at you unlike what you want to constantly do to me.

Simply put: What I do as a mod involves me checking as much as I can to ensure the rules are followed. As a player, I like helping others out and giving advice and information so I tend to do so.

The only one flaming or trolling anyone here is you. The only one with some grudge here is you. The only one refusing to act like a rational adult here is you. You cannot simply "ban" me from your threads. For one, it's a public forum. For two, I'm a mod and I have to look through threads regardless. Just because you're blinded with some irrational rage towards me doesn't invalidate what I've said as it's simply how the game works. Something other experienced psychics will likely agree with.

Also, it's hilarious how you've chosen to derail your own thread by attacking me out of all the other options you had. Really, totally hilarious. If you wanna keep attacking me, take it to PM instead of derailing your thread even more, though.

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

I'm gonna give you the same advice Kossy already gave.
I hope (for you) that you will then listen to them because I think it was smart advice.

she has no credibility. anyway.
I got the full R9 except wep anyway. but only r9rr is wrist/leg/chest. Im not really a cash shopper so i rely highly on merching. that being said,,,,you know +10and +11 orbs arent cheap lol.
My wep is +11 and the boots+10. part of me feels like im taking a loss then again im gaining gear.
Im at crossroads lol.
Illl have to take another gander at the prices in the market on d orbs and make an assessment on the costs again.
Maybe with some actual cost numbers in front of me i might be able to make a decision.
But what of the current state of the game? Is it worth going R9rr full at this point of the game with the economy the way it is and such?

Zoldi - Morai

As you said orbs are not cheap and keeping some G16+10 parts might be better than using R9.3 +3
But if you can afford R9.3 with same refine/gemms then this is obvisouly better

Now is this worth it ? Hard to say... I'm not optimistic regarding economy... I still have 6 G10 that I need to replace with JoSD on.my mystic. I didn't do it before because prices for DoD was 85-90M on Morai. Now this is 110-120...
And you're the only one who can now if you will get enough money or not and if you think you will get more fun in PVP after that.

What I could say is "do you have anything else where you could invest money?". For example, i got descent income recently but choose to invest it in avatars instead of JoSD because I found that the bonus i could get with the same amount money was better this way. Do the same... take a piece of paper and note the differences (regarding stats) between your current gear and your target (and the associated price)

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver

Zoldi - Morai wrote: »

As you said orbs are not cheap and keeping some G16+10 parts might be better than using R9.3 +3
But if you can afford R9.3 with same refine/gemms then this is obvisouly better

Now is this worth it ? Hard to say... I'm not optimistic regarding economy... I still have 6 G10 that I need to replace with JoSD on.my mystic. I didn't do it before because prices for DoD was 85-90M on Morai. Now this is 110-120...
And you're the only one who can now if you will get enough money or not and if you think you will get more fun in PVP after that.

What I could say is "do you have anything else where you could invest money?". For example, i got descent income recently but choose to invest it in avatars instead of JoSD because I found that the bonus i could get with the same amount money was better this way. Do the same... take a piece of paper and note the differences (regarding stats) between your current gear and your target (and the associated price)

Im not to optimistic neither tbh.
DoD prices are insane.
As for actual stats with r9 and G16, they are almost identical other then the set bonus's.
The set bonus on psy is def+atk lvl. ( i think thats with all r9 sets tho i could be wrong)
the thing i didnt factor in is the fact i need to farm alot of badges. currently only got enough to make 1 more piece to r3. So time+cost+shards+current state of the economy...
I might sit on my G16 for now and see where the game goes.

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver wrote: »

she has no credibility. anyway.
I got the full R9 except wep anyway. but only r9rr is wrist/leg/chest. Im not really a cash shopper so i rely highly on merching. that being said,,,,you know +10and +11 orbs arent cheap lol.
My wep is +11 and the boots+10. part of me feels like im taking a loss then again im gaining gear.
Im at crossroads lol.
Illl have to take another gander at the prices in the market on d orbs and make an assessment on the costs again.
Maybe with some actual cost numbers in front of me i might be able to make a decision.
But what of the current state of the game? Is it worth going R9rr full at this point of the game with the economy the way it is and such?

Yeah its worth it because the economy isnt going to change because thats been screwed since the last major update.So just do it and shut up already.

Viktorian - Archosaur

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yeah its worth it because the economy isnt going to change because thats been screwed since the last major update.So just do it and shut up already.

Ms shimberly is right. With the economy as it isand prices only getting higher I would.d get up full rrr9 ASAP. Refining it will take some time unless ur super rich but I recommend getting at least the rr 9 pieces as soon as possible preferably now

Jaabg - Sanctuary

*Farts* b:cute. I am mature.

To OP, let's just say +1 b:bye.

My little birdies tell me, you need to raise more money before you even think about this, raise about 7~9b coins. That will make your slate = 0, so if you want to continue the game, i would say about 10~15b coins needed to +11/12 gear.

When you have the above amount of coins, we can talk seriously, until that time *burps* b:pleased

SpellStormer - Harshlands

Ninety_nine - Dreamweaver wrote: »

As for actual stats with r9 and G16, they are almost identical other then the set bonus's.

I never did compare all the stats but since R93r has 6 stats on each item while G16 offers 5, I highly doubt that.

It is hard to tell how losing some refines from g16 will compare to better overall stats from each gear and the extra +10 attk/deff levels from set bonus.

Since you already started out on this path, why not cross the finish line.


To me, losing some HP and soulforce from lower refines is acceptable when you gain a lot more deffenses. Soulforce comming from refines is relevant when you fight people with same or less soulforce than you do. From personal experience soul of silence procs a lot more often on lower soulforce people than it does on higher ones, and yes it is a life savior and a battle decider at times.

Go full r93r and at least +10 refines and make sure u max out your spirit from nuemas and cards as soon as possible ... you'll be ok(ish).

Eoria - Harshlands

Normal r9, not r9rr, is about equal to g16 Nirvana. That's what they meant.

SpellStormer - Harshlands

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Normal r9, not r9rr, is about equal to g16 Nirvana. That's what they meant.

Reading between the lines at a very late hour for me b:surrender. Srry for that and ty Eoria for pointing it out.
I think at some point he was reffering to r9 3rd recast set, but too lazy to reread everything.