I want a full T3 Archer.

bloodedone87
bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Archer
I've made an archer just to see if i like this class and i do. Now she only lvl75 non reborn but i plan go further with her. I want to get her full T3 so i have some question:

1 would i be able to do pav in warsong and what pav an archer can solo with this gear:http://pwcalc.com/a4d3f60d9287f345
Are lionheart neck and belt good for archer as they are good for sin?
Or should i use a gear like this:http://pwcalc.com/e645e98389a88cf7
Are those rings good or should i use something different. Is good using elemental belt?
2 What kinda genie built is good for end game archer?PVE archer.
giphy.gif



Post edited by Unknown User on

Comments

  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I've made an archer just to see if i like this class and i do. Now she only lvl75 non reborn but i plan go further with her. I want to get her full T3 so i have some question:

    1 would i be able to do pav in warsong and what pav an archer can solo with this gear:http://pwcalc.com/a4d3f60d9287f345
    Are lionheart neck and belt good for archer as they are good for sin?
    Or should i use a gear like this:http://pwcalc.com/e645e98389a88cf7
    Are those rings good or should i use something different. Is good using elemental belt?
    2 What kinda genie built is good for end game archer?PVE archer.

    1) All, no, i'd go for defence over aps but thats just me. Those rings are fine but if you can get 1 sky cover then get 2 of them. Lunar physical ring is also viable.
    2) Vit/mag genie.
    why would you end game an archer to go PVE?...

    edit: *why would you end game any toon to go PVE?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    youtube.com/bhavenmurji
    pwcalc.com/65816fd7725681e1
  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I've made an archer just to see if i like this class and i do. Now she only lvl75 non reborn but i plan go further with her. I want to get her full T3 so i have some question:

    1 would i be able to do pav in warsong and what pav an archer can solo with this gear:http://pwcalc.com/a4d3f60d9287f345
    Are lionheart neck and belt good for archer as they are good for sin?
    Or should i use a gear like this:http://pwcalc.com/e645e98389a88cf7
    Are those rings good or should i use something different. Is good using elemental belt?
    2 What kinda genie built is good for end game archer?PVE archer.

    1. You will be able to do Fire pav with those gears, once you have G16 bow you might be able to do Metal Pav as well. Use metal skills for extra damage in Warsong.
    Lionheart is as good as possible before you can get a Cube Necklace (also protection) and warsong (protection) since both of those are a lot more expensive than the Lionhearts.
    2. Vit/mag is a common built, personally using Zeal with 50 vit (150 max energy) and everything else in Magic for fast recovery.



    1) All, no, i'd go for defence over aps but thats just me. Those rings are fine but if you can get 1 sky cover then get 2 of them. Lunar physical ring is also viable.
    2) Vit/mag genie.
    why would you end game an archer to go PVE?...

    edit: *why would you end game any toon to go PVE?

    Because for PVP you remain a onehit even with G16 to almost everyone since R9r3 is quite common now.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited June 2014
    >G16
    >Endgame PvP

    You cannot be in both categories unless the G16 is your "alt gear" so to speak. b:chuckle
    (Insert fancy image here)
    image
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    1) All, no, i'd go for defence over aps but thats just me. Those rings are fine but if you can get 1 sky cover then get 2 of them. Lunar physical ring is also viable.
    2) Vit/mag genie.
    why would you end game an archer to go PVE?...

    edit: *why would you end game any toon to go PVE?

    Cause Im not a fan of Pvp. And i wanna be able to survive a bit more in some instances like TT . That kind of Pve archer i want. Thats wat i understand wen i say end game Pve. An archer able to solo high lvl dungeons like TT3-3 for exemple.Or T3 archer not good enough for TT3-3 to solo it?
    giphy.gif



  • Socqar - Lost City
    Socqar - Lost City Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Cause Im not a fan of Pvp. And i wanna be able to survive a bit more in some instances like TT . That kind of Pve archer i want. Thats wat i understand wen i say end game Pve. An archer able to solo high lvl dungeons like TT3-3 for exemple.Or T3 archer not good enough for TT3-3 to solo it?


    3-3 solo as ea is not even possible on r9r gear... Mobs hit too hard, with an Ep helping you might... But it's not really something you'd enjoy (major charm **** on both toons)

    T3 is though, enough for most of non-squad-ment dungeons. Solo mode 3-3 perhaps, never tried though that one
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited June 2014
    3-3 solo as ea is not even possible on r9r gear... Mobs hit too hard

    ... What are you talking about? 3-3 on an archer is doable in base R9. Unless you mean it's not worth it because of the charm/potion burn in which case, yeah you're totally right on that and my apologies for misreading that.
    (Insert fancy image here)
    image
  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Solo'ing TT3-3 as Archer in R9 is possible but you'd spend more money into charms/pots than you would make from the loot. So it is not do-able/viable. Purely Solo an avg r9r3 archers get's up to 3-1 solo, 3-2 with charms/pots and a bit of luck. 3-3 is suicidal.

    With G16 archer you might be able to do TT3-1, not too difficult if you use the buffs pills from Shroud. It should be a profitable farming place.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited June 2014
    Solo'ing TT3-3 as Archer in R9 is possible but you'd spend more money into charms/pots than you would make from the loot. So it is not do-able/viable.
    I know it's semantics but this is likely the cause of my disagreement.

    In my eyes, possible means that it can be done and... well... that's literally what do-able means. Like how it's been shown that it's totally possible for an archer to solo Harpy. However, I feel there's a distinct difference between something that can't be done and something that's not worth being done.

    Soloing Frost as a level 1 non-rebirth archer, for example, would fall under not do-able because that's impossible without either GM gear or some form of hacking. Doing the same on a level 85 non-rebirth character, on the other hand, is do-able as it's quite within the realm of possibility (heck, I've done it before often enough). However, it's also not worth doing because it takes quite a while and you will destroy your charm/potions/apoth in the process.

    This distinction is something that, in my opinion, should probably happen more or at least be generally voiced so as not to confuse people. That way they can know that yes it is possible but due to ~insert reasons here~ it's just not worth doing. Like trying to farm R8 from FB59 stamps. b:chuckle
    (Insert fancy image here)
    image
  • Bhavyy - Raging Tide
    Bhavyy - Raging Tide Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    1. You will be able to do Fire pav with those gears, once you have G16 bow you might be able to do Metal Pav as well. Use metal skills for extra damage in Warsong.
    Lionheart is as good as possible before you can get a Cube Necklace (also protection) and warsong (protection) since both of those are a lot more expensive than the Lionhearts.
    2. Vit/mag is a common built, personally using Zeal with 50 vit (150 max energy) and everything else in Magic for fast recovery.






    Because for PVP you remain a onehit even with G16 to almost everyone since R9r3 is quite common now.

    He asked what genie build is suitable for an endgame archer, pve.

    Nothing to do with T3 since that is not endgame.

    Everyone gets 1 shot, even in r9r2.

    An end game archer should really be able to make their own decision about what skills they need on a pve genie. If not, delete your toon and start again, because you failed the "I know my class" test.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    youtube.com/bhavenmurji
    pwcalc.com/65816fd7725681e1