Spatial / Tactical Reversion

LizZandra - Morai

im kinda sad about that skill dont work other places than PWI map. would be nice it worked

everywhere, im specialy thinking about Nation Wars. am i the only one feeling same? b:surrenderb:sad

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

LizZandra - Morai wrote: »

im kinda sad about that skill dont work other places than PWI map. would be nice it worked

everywhere, im specialy thinking about Nation Wars. am i the only one feeling same? b:surrenderb:sad

i dont used them anyway because i dont got upgraded version and chance enough low mainly vs peoples with tidal or higher soulforce than me

for me like useless skills, found it only usefull vs tankish target who don't deal high dmg on me

XXHotXx - Morai

LizZandra - Morai wrote: »

im kinda sad about that skill dont work other places than PWI map. would be nice it worked

everywhere, im specialy thinking about Nation Wars. am i the only one feeling same? b:surrenderb:sad

yea, also would be good if spatial would bypass tidal

but this is just the last of the issues of wizard class atm...

so i am trying this retail private server with NH patch cards etch everything PWI offers at very very endgame (nuema set 2nd reborn etch)
and wizard is really bad...

we trade a lot of long channelling\cast times and defenses (on purged, we have prolly the lowest def among all the classes) for what?

for nothing we got no damage, the spark combo i thought it would've been beast at very very endgame with 155 dex genie, but no even with 60k base mag damage spark isnt able to reduce target res under the 70-80% value and the damage is ****

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

I agree that it should work everywhere as well.

Proski - Archosaur

XXHotXx - Morai wrote: »

yea, also would be good if spatial would bypass tidal

but this is just the last of the issues of wizard class atm...

so i am trying this retail private server with NH patch cards etch everything PWI offers at very very endgame (nuema set 2nd reborn etch)
and wizard is really bad...

we trade a lot of long channelling\cast times and defenses (on purged, we have prolly the lowest def among all the classes) for what?

for nothing we got no damage, the spark combo i thought it would've been beast at very very endgame with 155 dex genie, but no even with 60k base mag damage spark isnt able to reduce target res under the 70-80% value and the damage is ****

all i have to say is thanks for saving 20 minutes of my day for the next month or two or however long it would've took me to farm my passives, I only log on to troll now anyway and make the occasional video

fkn pwi lawl

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

somehow i cant decide roll to psy or mystic, after mystic hit on me 17-25k's (few week ago from same geared mystic got 8k's) on nation war with insantly potioned..... or stay on sin who also few hit me?



acctually no bad choose, only wizzard useless, acctually 1st on the top pvp list (if we count from last ) atm

XXHotXx - Morai

wow some mod removed my post...

Zsw - Dreamweaver

XXHotXx - Morai wrote: »

wow some mod removed my post...

Discussion of private servers aren't allowed

XXHotXx - Morai

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Discussion of private servers aren't allowed

that wasnt at all a discussion about private server... it was a discussion about retail pwi very very endgame

tho how do you experience retail pwi very very endgame mass pvp if not on a p server?

dont come and tell me you did on pwi servers cause thats bs

just said that wizard dph output even at very very endgame (r9r3 +12 josd full nuerma portal set 2nd reborn, crown of madness + wings of ascension) its total **** if compared to the insane dph from assassins seekers and the huge dps from psychics mystics even clerics
not just that, if wizard gets purged he will be oneshot for anyone (other classes will be able to survive)

also clerics and barbs are basically unkillable in 1on1 and takes entire teams of equal geared ones to take down one of them

demon venos, if demon ironwood procs can oneshot anything

archers are almost as ****ed up as wizards are

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

XXHotXx - Morai wrote: »

that wasnt at all a discussion about private server... it was a discussion about retail pwi very very endgame

tho how do you experience retail pwi very very endgame mass pvp if not on a p server?

dont come and tell me you did on pwi servers cause thats bs

just said that wizard dph output even at very very endgame (r9r3 +12 josd full nuerma portal set 2nd reborn, crown of madness + wings of ascension) its total **** if compared to the insane dph from assassins seekers and the huge dps from psychics mystics even clerics
not just that, if wizard gets purged he will be oneshot for anyone (other classes will be able to survive)

also clerics and barbs are basically unkillable in 1on1 and takes entire teams of equal geared ones to take down one of them

demon venos, if demon ironwood procs can oneshot anything

archers are almost as ****ed up as wizards are

isnt true, few class need to do 2 skill like mystic

Zsw - Dreamweaver

XXHotXx - Morai wrote: »

that wasnt at all a discussion about private server... it was a discussion about retail pwi very very endgame

tho how do you experience retail pwi very very endgame mass pvp if not on a p server?

dont come and tell me you did on pwi servers cause thats bs

just said that wizard dph output even at very very endgame (r9r3 +12 josd full nuerma portal set 2nd reborn, crown of madness + wings of ascension) its total **** if compared to the insane dph from assassins seekers and the huge dps from psychics mystics even clerics
not just that, if wizard gets purged he will be oneshot for anyone (other classes will be able to survive)

also clerics and barbs are basically unkillable in 1on1 and takes entire teams of equal geared ones to take down one of them

demon venos, if demon ironwood procs can oneshot anything

archers are almost as ****ed up as wizards are

No point justifying with me. I'm just telling you that it's not allowed, which is why it got removed. Same **** happened to me.

I think end game wizard's aren't that underpowered. It's really the paralyze + purify proc that messes things up. They should remove both, and provide a compromise.

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No point justifying with me. I'm just telling you that it's not allowed, which is why it got removed. Same **** happened to me.

I think end game wizard's aren't that underpowered. It's really the paralyze + purify proc that messes things up. They should remove both, and provide a compromise.

that not really true only if u talk melee vs caster, example remove both gof and puri and reduce elimination dmg to 220% base dmg could be enough, but between casters wizz kinda screwed now in damage term and less advanatrge in defence term aswell then before, wizz got nerf and others got nerf +boost or nothing

XXHotXx - Morai

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No point justifying with me. I'm just telling you that it's not allowed, which is why it got removed. Same **** happened to me.

I think end game wizard's aren't that underpowered. It's really the paralyze + purify proc that messes things up. They should remove both, and provide a compromise.

na man on my server i got hit 27k by a sin that i outspirit by 300 spirit... while i hit him back 2k 3k

wizard is ****

Zsw - Dreamweaver

25k is how much damage I took when I was out geared +10 to +12 by a better geared sin. It is highly improbable that you take more damage than me, while out gearing the sin.

Zanryu - Lothranis

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

25k is how much damage I took when I was out geared +10 to +12 by a better geared sin. It is highly improbable that you take more damage than me, while out gearing the sin.



Also, I'm gonna have to get a moderator to explain to me the meaning of "Filter circumvention". The way I understand it, Filter circumvention is when the word filter would block out a word, and then you use a method to type the same word without getting the word blocked. However, that did not apply to me. The word I typed was "****", which is different from "sh.it". Had I typed the latter, I would've agreed that it is Filter circumvention. However, as I typed the former word, I am in doubt, since the former neither spells nor pronounces the same. One could even argue that they have different meaning. A lot of words in the English language sound the same and have different meaning. For example, sea vs see.

If however, we argue that Filter circumvention is not restricted to pronunciation or spelling, but rather meaning, then why are words like B.S. allowed? It is trivial to deduce that B.S. = bull.sh.it. Once again, typing bull.sh.it is Filter circumvention, which I agree. But then how is typing BS not Filter circumvention, while typing **** is Filter circumvention? Would f-ed up be Filter circumvention? Because again, it is easy to deduce that f-ed up means fu.cked up. So if "****" is a Filter circumvention because one can deduce that it means "sh.it", then many many more words should be disallowed.

In fact, the rules state that "filtered words/statements with clear vulgar intent will also be considered outright violations." So technically, even if I had said **** (4 stars), it is clear vulgar intent and should still be removed?

I request that a moderator give me an exact definition of Filter circumvention.

....You're just being a smart *** for the sake of being a smart ***. It's kind of amusing, but still, you're being as *** for the sake of being an ***.

You know what you mean by the word, I know what you mean by the word, everyone knows the rules are enforced at a Mod's leisure, there's really no point in trying to argue the definition of filter circumvention. Intentionally mispelling a word or otherwise altering it to a slight degree to allow it to pass through the filter is obvious circumvention. However, it's entirely likely that acronyms or abbreviations don't break this rule given that those tend to remain uncensored and unedited by Mods. I suppose it's f-ed up, but it is what it is.

tl;dr y u gotta b a prik mang

Zsw - Dreamweaver

Acronyms or abbreviations being allowed is actually a good explanation, thanks!

XXHotXx - Morai

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

25k is how much damage I took when I was out geared +10 to +12 by a better geared sin. It is highly improbable that you take more damage than me, while out gearing the sin.

it was in tw and i was self buffs, i recorded that but unfortunately i deleted the video due the TW record not being worth to be uploaded

but yea that was 27k

tsyfall

Any chance that you were heavily debuffed, such as by venomancer Physical defense break, or perhaps defense level from seekers, etc etc etc?

XXHotXx - Morai

tsyfall wrote: »

Any chance that you were heavily debuffed, such as by venomancer Physical defense break, or perhaps defense level from seekers, etc etc etc?

was kiting away from base w purify had nothing on me, no debuffs no tower debuffs nothing...

when i read 27k on damage log i said... well tower debuff

but nope i watched the vid and i didnt have it

same sin 2shotted a endgame josd barb my friend

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

tsyfall wrote: »

Any chance that you were heavily debuffed, such as by venomancer Physical defense break, or perhaps defense level from seekers, etc etc etc?

its is possible easily....
example mystic did too 23-25k on me without problem with 3rd spark and AS combo when i was full buffed (without 3rd spark etc he doing also over 10ks and if used channel stuff like combo or pot then could make twice)

assassin not far behind on damage, yes pattack is lower on me a bit but could crit each 5hit on elimanation and could be zerk crit too aswell, total damage could be over 20k-25 without problem if 3rd sparked and i am full buffed (idk how is on your server but on mine everybody still use 3rd spark in nation war when have group fight but even without 3rd spark few skill like AS, elimination do higher damage than sage wizz ulties, not only a bit higher these non spark cost skill, they are really noticeable higher dmg on target)

XXHotXx - Morai

Shadowvzss - Harshlands wrote: »

its is possible easily....
example mystic did too 23-25k on me without problem with 3rd spark and AS combo when i was full buffed (without 3rd spark etc he doing also over 10ks and if used channel stuff like combo or pot then could make twice)

assassin not far behind on damage, yes pattack is lower on me a bit but could crit each 5hit on elimanation and could be zerk crit too aswell, total damage could be over 20k-25 without problem if 3rd sparked and i am full buffed (idk how is on your server but on mine everybody still use 3rd spark in nation war when have group fight but even without 3rd spark few skill like AS, elimination do higher damage than sage wizz ulties, not only a bit higher these non spark cost skill, they are really noticeable higher dmg on target)

well its even weird to still call them ulties since they all have just 100% base damage, i mean seeker with the primal battosai has a better damage output than our socalled "ulties" (110% base damage)

wizard really needs a complete rework...
once the 10k-11k damage added by our ultis was really good, was making bids being worth to be landed and they were generating massive aoe damage...

now they are trash, you ll hit people 3-4k with them on pair with our basic skills

XEmpX - Heavens Tear

Do you think adding the reversion skills (tactical/mortal) would be game breaking in TW? It would certainly help with defending, considering our damage is so nerfed now, at least we could get some decent cc skills. Would be great to have barb charging down path, tactical him back up the path over and over again. would be like rubber banding.
Mortal would be great for tagging them when they are low, charm pops, and hp goes straight down to low again, for the easy kill. Think we would get QQ'd at a lot more if they allowed us to use those skills.

On another note, how have you guys found Frozen Flame? I just got it last night and am still to really test it out.

XXHotXx - Morai

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Do you think adding the reversion skills (tactical/mortal) would be game breaking in TW? It would certainly help with defending, considering our damage is so nerfed now, at least we could get some decent cc skills. Would be great to have barb charging down path, tactical him back up the path over and over again. would be like rubber banding.
Mortal would be great for tagging them when they are low, charm pops, and hp goes straight down to low again, for the easy kill. Think we would get QQ'd at a lot more if they allowed us to use those skills.

On another note, how have you guys found Frozen Flame? I just got it last night and am still to really test it out.

frozen flame is a ripoff for demon wizards... keep your demon emberstorm

it is nice for sage ones..

tho being a sage wiz nowadays doesnt make any sense (shots fired, but i tested sage wiz and it lasted a whole 12 hours before going back to demon )

FaceRolI - Sanctuary

XEmpX - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Do you think adding the reversion skills (tactical/mortal) would be game breaking in TW?

mortal doesnt have the same restrictions tactical does.