Assassin Primal Skills

Badkidimdone - Archosaur

As the title suggests, this is about the assassin primal skills. More specifically the difficulty to acquire them.

The following is an edited version of the ticket I sent asking about the issue:


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Why are the assassin skills that are required for the new primal skills so rare?

It's only fair that they become available in a far more farmable way, i.e Eden/Brim or being given out from the Page of Fate or Old Book Page cards, like the books for every other class.

Assassins seem to be the only class not welcomed in this new expansion, anti-aps bosses (most assassins are aps-based), high damage bosses, tons of crowded "?" mobs being difficult to tank for a LA melee. The quests tend to have a lot of "?" level mobs which gank you really easily, and can hit an assassin with 4-6k magical def for 2-3k. And if you're trying to escape from multiple ones at a time, say 4, it becomes very difficult (at least in my experience).

Majority of Frost silver squads reject you from joining because of the sole reason you are an assassin. Assassins are corelated with low DPH capabilities (which I disagree with), which these new skills can easily address- but these skills are unattainable, for the average or even unaverage sin. (This is again in my experience. Most squads I join only have 1-2 assassins at most.)

Twin Strike and Puncture Wound both sell for around 150-200m each. Sometimes even 300m.
It's ludicrous to make assassins have to pay such high prices to get the skill, when every other class can get theirs fairly quickly.

Farming the skills is also barely an option. The drop-rate for the skills from both the Peachblossom Ritualist and Hellfire Abomination are 0.6%. This means it would take over 130 kills of one of those to get a "100%" chance to get the skill. (After killing Peachblossom a few times, I noticed I didn't get a single skill book - for any class. I read later that the bosses only have a 10% chance for an addition drop, making the actual drop rate around 0.06, and bringing the kill count up to 1300 or so.)


Now, how practical is this? On days with the BH being abba, it takes me around 8-10 telecustics to form a squad. These are 22k each. Assuming it's 8 telecustics for each, (which it can be a lot more, especially on days where the BH is not abba/sot), 8 * 22,000= 176,000

Now multiply that by 1300.

228800000. Just for forming a squad, for a single skill.

This is ignoring the teleporting costs, crab meat costs (which are 5k each atm), charm costs (9m each atm), and repair costs. These would also raise the price significantly.


So why are these skills so damn rare? And, "because the primal skills are really strong" is not good answer. In fact it'd be a terrible one.

I would recommend making it farmable in Eden/Brimstone, or increasing the drop-rate dramatically for the skills. Even a 5% drop rate would be far better than this (also replacing the 10% additional drop chance with a 100%.) Alternatively, you could also add it to the Page of Fate/Old Book Page cards.

In short: Why are these skills, which are required to experience the new expansion, so rare (why haven't you done anything other than putting them in the bidding hall for 100gold), and what are you planning to do to change this. I'm severely disappointed in how little merit Primal World has for assassins, other than the passive skills (which are the only aspect I seem to be able to benefit from).
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I was told this would be forwarded to developers and asked to post this in the Quality Corner (so other people can voice their opinion), so that's what I'm doing. My suggestion is as above, adding it to Eden/Brim or PoF/OBP.

I'm wondering if I should continue with getting my passives or stock up on bloods for the skills

opkossy

Psychics are in the same boat except their primals aren't all that good overall. b:chuckle

This has been a fairly frequently made topic since the expansion. Thank you for posting in the appropriate section instead of listening to whatever person mistakenly sent you to Quality Corner, though.

patr01t

Ok psychics are in the same boat and there skills aren't all that good but that does not answer the question of why the sin books are so rare/hard to get for the primal skill. I completely agree with Badkid about giving the answer that assassin primal skills are over powered isnt an answer so i guess what im trying to say is can you explain why the skill books are so rare/hard to obtain and while the other classes are quite easy to get??? b:surrender

SweetieBot - Lothranis

patr01t wrote: »

Ok psychics are in the same boat and there skills aren't all that good but that does not answer the question of why the sin books are so rare/hard to get for the primal skill. I completely agree with Badkid about giving the answer that assassin primal skills are over powered isnt an answer so i guess what im trying to say is can you explain why the skill books are so rare/hard to obtain and while the other classes are quite easy to get???

This looks like a NECRO!

patr01t replied to a message that was 2 months 21 days 2 hours 49 minutes old.

Any thread over one month (30 days) old is considered to be a dead thread and you're not supposed to post in them. The person you are replying to probably doesn't care any more or can no longer be found on the forums. The topic itself could be out of date. Next time just make a new thread.

Let's see how long it takes for a mod to close this