[Result] How debuffs was killed

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

i tested on friend, this is the proof how wizzard was nerfed compared with other casters who not debuff depend, so who not used debuff (mystic, psy etc) before get 21.93% dmg nerf, who used udine strike now do 29.81% less damage and this is least difference from table

Used debuffs
udine = 60% eq debuff
genie spark = 107% eq fire debuff with 110 dex

Sin:
83 def level
377 spirit
61 mag,
283 vit (helm 3, cape 3, wrist 4)
lv0 primal passive
-lv7 primal passive
--lv10 passive with 3rd rebirth (still not avalaible)
*how much % less damage after passive

Wizard:
35575-40904 mattack (cleric buffed)
139 attack
327 spirit
110 dex genie (110*0.7%+30% = 107% fire debuff on genie)
lv11 sage phoenix wings the dmg skill
lv7 damage passive in both example

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|[COLOR="Cyan"][B]Nerf table - How much reduced the damage with Level 7 primal defence [/B] [/COLOR]     |
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| [B] Debuffs[/B]         |  [COLOR="LemonChiffon"][B]No debuff[/B][/COLOR]  | [COLOR="Yellow"][B]Udine Strike[/B][/COLOR] | [COLOR="Yellow"][B]Genie Spark[/B][/COLOR] |[COLOR="DarkOrange"] [B]Udine Sparked [/B][/COLOR]    |
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| [COLOR="PaleTurquoise"][B]Non buffed[/B] [/COLOR]    |    [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]21.93%[/COLOR]      |    [COLOR="Yellow"]29.81%[/COLOR]      |    [COLOR="Orange"]41.52%[/COLOR]      |    [COLOR="DarkOrange"]21.34%[/COLOR]             |
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| [COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][B]Cleric buffed[/B][/COLOR]  |     [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]7.89%[/COLOR]       |    [COLOR="yellow"]21.93%[/COLOR]      |   [COLOR="orange"] 27.66%[/COLOR]     |    [COLOR="DarkOrange"]41.52% [/COLOR]            |
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Unbuffed
normal unbuffed
12285 mdef
73.92% - 26.08% reicived dmg
6761 dmg
-16957 mdef
-79.64% - 20.36% reicived dmg
-4893 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 78.06% => 21.93% less damage


udine debuffed
6656 mdef
60.56% - 39.44% reicived dmg
10012 dmg
-11327 mdef
-72.32% - 27.68% reicived dmg
-6680 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 70.18% => 29.81% less damage

spark debuffed
2244 mdef
34.11% - 65.89% reicived dmg
16999 dmg
-6915 mdef
-61.47% - 38.53% reicived dmg
-8853 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 58.476% => 41.52% less damage

udine spark debuffed
86 mdef
1.95% - 98.05% reicived dmg
25676 dmg
-1286 mdef
-22.88% - 77.12% reicived dmg
-18864 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 78.65% => 21.34% less damage

Cleric buffed
buffed
17916 mdef
82.52% - 17.48% reicived dmg
5011 dmg
-22588 mdef
-83.90% - 16.10% reicived dmg
-3976 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 92.1% => 7.89% less damage

buffed udined debuffed
12285 mdef
73.92% - 26.08% reicived dmg
6520 dmg
-16957 mdef
-79.64% - 20.36% reicived dmg
-4906 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 78.06% => 21.93% less damage

buffed spark debuffed
7875 mdef
64.50% - 35.50% reicived dmg
8976 dmg
-12547 mdef
-74.32% - 25.68% reicived dmg
-6444 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 72.338% => 27.66% less damage

buffed udine sparked debuffed
2244 mdef
34.11% - 65.89% reicived dmg
15749 dmg
-6916 mdef
-61.47% - 38.53% reicived dmg
-9834 dmg
*your damage from 100% nerfed to 58.476% => 41.52% less damage


full buffed
3rd spark+udine+spark+e.poison = 40001 non crit //+5 nw pdef neck
-3rd spark+udine+spark+e.poison = 18460 dmg non crit //+11 nw pdef neck

WannaBM - Archosaur

I think that might have been the intention of the passive buffs. To reduce the OPness of those debuffs as well as purge.

Shadowvzss - Harshlands

WannaBM - Archosaur wrote: »

I think that might have been the intention of the passive buffs. To reduce the OPness of those debuffs as well as purge.

yes, halved the spark effect but problem the normal debuff also less effective so who got no debuff dont fail that nerf, only who use debuff, but overall interesting because full buffed target now reicive more dmg than before primal because now u cn see it is nerfed by 7.89% but both test was included the maxed damage passive so +14% dmg if 1st result don't have maxed dmg massive then result will be a tiny increased dmg

Edit: So i understand the peoples complained about max dex spark reduce too much the defence (i don't want talk about disadvantage of dex genie etc) and they did something against it, but why not simple nerfed the genie skill itself and add damage reduction passive what work like sage spark with 25% damage reduction? then character debuff not nerfed and give advantage to non debuffer class's. (bm ulti, archer metal debuff, cleric debuff etc was nerfed too but atleast they got something for compasation maybe exclude archer )

if u notice then u can see now everything on other class side because:

-Mattack: cleric got higher mattack via violet dance, psy got higher mattack on sphere and mattack with channeling skill, mystic got mattack aswell from leech etc (except veno but veno got pet evolution and hapry+monkey)

-Base mattack vs nuke: the old 300% weapon damage or even new 800% weapon damage or 2 spark water and earth ulti where only weapon % damage exist and not multiplied the base damage became alot less effective than before, just example, elimination do more damage with that crit chance and chance for zerk (alot more) than frozenflame with 800% weapon dmg

-Slow vs fast skill and cooldown: in cooldown terms wizz would win the highest cooldowns from casters on skills, since now with high base mattack (more than 10-2 times higher than weapon damage with new stat) the viable way is useing fast skills (who would use nuke skill for maybe +10% damage max what cost 2x more time - sandstorm/glacial snare) - we dont got same like cleric or same fast aoe's like psy or absorb soul or purge, basically only fast skill compared with others is gush (2 dot taken by primal skills) another side other casters (maybe except veno) both in dph outdamage us and same time if they want can spam skill better than us

--Defence advantage: with primal passive, the advantage of wizzard with earth shield alot less over other casters in pdef term than before nh

-Debuffs stuff mentioned above:

-Non upgraded old skills: example udine strike range, or Elemental Shell what now alot alot less advantage with high mdef because it is over 95% but defence is caped to 95%

-Morai craps: primal boost the damage on skills, for melee isn't viable the autoattack anymore, barb got nice stun skill+amplify (well that hard to stack), bm also have nice skill and sin directly have op primal skills and kinda pointless the arcana defence morai skill if everybody attack with skill, or critical reduction passive alot nerfed too(Sand Miasma) because everybody got with nh alot critical only passive will give 10% then cards also give and from dex based class only from 150% dex have again more, at and sins/aracher have over 90% critical and casters over 35%, so nearly double the ciritical with nh